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[Plague Doctor]

"There is no hidden agenda, its all in your head"

Whatever the game is on the left ….

I reward blatant fan service and eye candy.

 

[nick776]

Are all games' girl protagonist need to be anime lolis waifus to satisfy you?

I really wish people would not post the picture of that bald ugly ass main character from Intergalactic. Out of all the pics in this mosaic, that one just makes me feel all kinds of angry for some reason.

 

[DForce]

Finally saw the gameplay video and it looks pretty good. Not sure why people are hating on it so much but I guess it's because Kratos doesn't feature, or at least not much.

I mean, I look at this as a side game/gaiden game in the God of War universe which isn't a bad thing.

If people believe the game is pushing an agenda, then they're going to think it's the worst game ever and criticize every aspect of the game.

 

[Skeeter49]

"There is no hidden agenda, its all in your head"

One of them is a problem and it's not the one on the right.

 

[Gamer79]

Imaginary social agendas in your head that don't actually exist in reality maybe.

Or you are too dense to see it. Sony has been doing this with most of their ip's.

 

[samoilaaa]

No I'm not taking shots at the members here. I'm taking shots at the clowns. Especially those with an agenda. I didn't realise having a woman as a lead character would stir up so much hate and hypocrisy.
Too many fly by shit posters to have a decent meaningful conversation about the actual game.
I like she can jump. Maybe she can hover and fly?
Production values are high. Remember the spit and polish is done near the end of Dev.

is it really that hard to understand ? the problem is not one female lead the problem is that they follow a pattern and that is changing all their male leads to female , you can contradict me but if you look at all the major 1st party titles they changed male to female or to a minority

Again u can contradict me but the developers said it themselves that they want less white straight male leads , just look at the leaked insomniac video on inclusivity , look at the GDC conferences , they are not even trying to hide it

its like having a cctv footage of a robbery , the robber even admits to it and you come and say that is not true he didnt do it

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Imaginary social agendas in your head that don't actually exist in reality maybe.

 

[Gamer79]

If you don't believe this is heavily influenced by progressive social stances, I got a bridge in New York to sell you. Guaranteed lots of Soy Boys, Blue haired septum rings, and Executives chasing ESG for black rock money had a major hand in this.

That could be making a game the true fans really wanted instead of this bullshit.

 

[calico]

There is no agenda and actually God of War was always about Kratos' wife if you think about it.

 

[samoilaaa]

noooo ur just seeing things , there is no agenda

 

[Darkmakaimura]

If people believe the game is pushing an agenda, then they're going to think it's the worst game ever and criticize every aspect of the game.

The "anti-woke" movement seems to be becoming the new "woke" so-to-speak.

I mean she's a magical middle aged woman god-thing so it's understandable she adventures and I'm fine with it.

I do agree the quipy Marvel bullshit has no place in this or anything else for that matter. If anything, the quips would turn me off of this more than anything. That trend is absolutely fucking awful.

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

Whatever the game is on the left ….

I reward blatant fan service and eye candy.

Me too, so I did a little search....
"This image appears to be an AI-generated fan art of the character Juri Han from the Street Fighter series, depicted in a maid outfit. "
Don't know if google is correct or not.

 

[Gamer79]

There is no agenda and actually God of War was always about Kratos' wife if you think about it.

Yea all of the fans were saying , "I can't wait to play as Kratos dead wife !"

 

[Darkmakaimura]

Yea all of the fans were saying , "I can't wait to play as Kratos dead wife !"

If you view this as a spinoff or gaiden game, it's not all that bad.

I'm more curious about the lore. It was hinted at back in the past that there is a greater universe beyond the realms of the pantheons which makes this interesting.

 

[VeganElduderino]

I am actually all in on the game, but these gifs are hilarious

holy fuck its getting fully retarded ahhaha

 

[DarkBatman]

Yea all of the fans were saying , "I can't wait to play as Kratos dead wife !"

Countless fans kept saying, "It's getting boring—do something new." Then something new comes along, and everyone says, "What is this crap? Why isn't it like the old one?" It's the same old story we've seen play out time and again over the last few years.

I'm also skeptical about whether the game will hook me without Kratos as a playable character. But I'm not immediately whining as if Santa Monica Studio had burned down my house. I'm just going to wait and see—the villains alone, and the possibilities they open up (gods from various mythologies), have already got me interested.

 

[Gamer79]

Countless fans kept saying, "It's getting boring—do something new." Then something new comes along, and everyone says, "What is this crap? Why isn't it like the old one?" It's the same old story we've seen play out time and again over the last few years.

I'm also skeptical about whether the game will hook me without Kratos as a playable character. But I'm not immediately whining as if Santa Monica Studio had burned down my house. I'm just going to wait and see—the villains alone, and the possibilities they open up (gods from various mythologies), have already got me interested.

Good for you. I am going to express my displeasure.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

Countless fans kept saying, "It's getting boring—do something new." Then something new comes along, and everyone says, "What is this crap? Why isn't it like the old one?" It's the same old story we've seen play out time and again over the last few years.

I'm also skeptical about whether the game will hook me without Kratos as a playable character. But I'm not immediately whining as if Santa Monica Studio had burned down my house. I'm just going to wait and see—the villains alone, and the possibilities they open up (gods from various mythologies), have already got me interested.

Same. I think the lore around this game seems really interesting and I like we're going to get other mythologies.

 

[DarkBatman]

Good for you. I am going to express my displeasure.

And that is your absolute right. I don't mind at all when people voice their dissatisfaction on forums. However, these days that dissatisfaction—and not just with this game—escalates to such an extreme degree that people nitpick every little thing and even attack the team behind it. And *that* is just ridiculous.

 

[Gamer79]

And that is your absolute right. I don't mind at all when people voice their dissatisfaction on forums. However, these days that dissatisfaction—and not just with this game—escalates to such an extreme degree that people nitpick every little thing and even attack the team behind it. And *that* is just ridiculous.

Because they are spending years developing this instead is giving fans what they really want. Also many of us see this is socially driven with girl power bullshit Sony has done for years.

The issue is not that she's female. It's they are again pussafying another IP. Many are sick of the same bullshit formula.

If they want to make Female leads then do it with new Ip'a instead of taking over the male space.

 

[midnightAI]

50 shades of purple

I guess Devs can't use any purple at all in their games anymore, the woke side have claimed it eh. Let's hope there is zero purple in GTA 6, no purple t shirts, no purple cars and definitely no purple lighting

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

I guess Devs can't use any purple at all in their games anymore, the woke side have claimed it eh. Let's hope there is zero purple in GTA 6, no purple t shirts, no purple cars and definitely no purple lighting

They did sorta ruin some colors, pink, purple, blue and the rainbow

 

[viveks86]

Which absolutely isn't.

Just check Attack on Titan on how to do something like this properly.

Besides, taking anyway Kratos's agency is even worse than a character swap. And what's next? Captain Faye fixing the Greek trilogy too?

This is beyond dumb and I'm saying it after doing a similar trick in my book saga, but unlike SSM, I did it with FORESHADOWING and HINTS since the very first page. I pay attention to this stuff and there was nothing that hinted in that direction in those games.

All the giants having a grand plan of deceiving Odin was basically the entire intrigue of 2018. Faye being so specific about where the ashes need to be spread did not have a satisfactory answer either. Meanwhile, she sent them on a path to see their own future. Again, with no resolution in 2018. Definitely felt like there was something more to all of that. Odin's obsession about what happens after Gods die was not even subtle in Ragnarok. Then there's the crater and a second frozen lightning. And then there is this from 2018 as well:



I'm with you that Faye becoming a playable character, let alone a protagonist for a mainline game wasn't foreshadowed, which is why I empathize with the backlash, but from a storytelling/lore building standpoint they had this shit covered. This seems to have been the plan all along with the reboot. We just didn't see it. Instead of being bold and capitalized above, they were foreshadowing and hints

We may not like what they are doing, but that doesn't mean they are incompetent. I'm sure you disagree

 

[DarkBatman]

Because they are spending years developing this instead is giving fans what they really want. Also many of us see this is socially driven with girl power bullshit Sony has done for years.

The issue is not that she's female. It's they are again pussafying another IP. Many are sick of the same bullshit formula.

If they want to make Female leads then do it with new Ip'a instead of taking over the male space.

You mean the "fans" who whined because Kratos showed more emotion in the last two games and was no longer a deranged, brutal warrior like in the Greek saga?
But with embarrassing statements like "girl power bullshit" alone, you clearly show that you are one of those people I was talking about.

I have no problem playing as a female protagonist, provided the switch makes sense and isn't permanent. It makes sense because Laufey is part of Norse mythology, so I'm very curious to see how her story ties into the last two installments. And it's not permanent either, since it's already been confirmed that Kratos is involved here and will take on the lead role again in future games.

And the argument "If they want to make female leads, then do it with new IPs" is an absolute joke, too. Almost any new IP featuring a female lead is immediately met by haters like you with a "Great, now I'm being forced to play as a woman again." Be honest with yourself: people like you can never be satisfied.

 

[Unfortunatecookie]

Because they are spending years developing this instead is giving fans what they really want. Also many of us see this is socially driven with girl power bullshit Sony has done for years.

The issue is not that she's female. It's they are again pussafying another IP. Many are sick of the same bullshit formula.

If they want to make Female leads then do it with new Ip'a instead of taking over the male space.

I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but you're just really wrong.

They don't put a female lead to pussify a franchise. They do it because there's a creative and business justification for doing so, aka there's money to be made by going in a female direction. Faye is Kratos's wife. Kratos has also had like 7 games that focused exclusively on him. Why not do a game that focused on his wife?

I'm sorry, but the idea that these companies are woke and anti-men is just measurably fucking stupid. They do this stuff because they want to make more money. Personally, I think Laufey looks good and could be better than people think. They're not deleting Kratos, and they want to create a thing without Kratos that is still awesome. Why be against creativity?

 

[DForce]

is it really that hard to understand ? the problem is not one female lead the problem is that they follow a pattern and that is changing all their male leads to female , you can contradict me but if you look at all the major 1st party titles they changed male to female or to a minority

Again u can contradict me but the developers said it themselves that they want less white straight male leads , just look at the leaked insomniac video on inclusivity , look at the GDC conferences , they are not even trying to hide it

its like having a cctv footage of a robbery , the robber even admits to it and you come and say that is not true he didnt do it

And you guys don't see the problem.

Yes, some developers have an agenda. Some developers try hard to be inclusive. It's happening in movies AND video games.

The problem now is that people believe EVERYTHING has an agenda behind it.

Here's an example from today.



They think the word 'Men' was removed from X‑Men because SweetBaby Inc. was involved. They didn't even bother to read the article.

"It's our own unique take on the world, and as such, we are putting it in modern times, but the X-Men do not exist," he explained. "The X-Men are not in our game, and where we do start is Logan has been around for a while. He's been part of a team called Team X."

Nathan Drake wasn't "replaced" by Chloe. Drake's story was finished, and The Lost Legacy was nothing more than a DLC that grew into a standalone game.

Kratos isn't being replaced either. He's coming back. If someone wants to argue that there was an agenda behind these creative decisions, they'd have to prove that they never intended to tell Faye's story.

Jin to Atsu? It could be.
Aloy? Nothing. Aloy's optional romance option at the end of the DLC? I would assume so.

And we already know what's going to happen when Wolverine and God of War Laufey get closer to release. Positive reviews will be labeled fake, every GOTY award will be accused of being "rigged," and people will claim both games underperformed.

 

[Gamer79]

I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but you're just really wrong.

They don't put a female lead to pussify a franchise. They do it because there's a creative and business justification for doing so, aka there's money to be made by going in a female direction. Faye is Kratos's wife. Kratos has also had like 7 games that focused exclusively on him. Why not do a game that focused on his wife?

I'm sorry, but the idea that these companies are woke and anti-men is just measurably fucking stupid. They do this stuff because they want to make more money. Personally, I think Laufey looks good and could be better than people think. They're not deleting Kratos, and they want to create a thing without Kratos that is still awesome. Why be against creativity?

You don't understand there is incentive for Diversity. Go read up on Blackrock and ESG score before you make that claim. I think you are totally naive and do not see the agenda they are pushing here. Also if I am so wrong why are so many franchises following this same direction ?

Also modern game studios especially in California are infected with the woke mind virus.

The Game is called God Of War . Make a different game if you don't want to include the actual god of war.

 

[Panajev2001a]

And you guys don't see the problem.

Yes, some developers have an agenda. Some developers try hard to be inclusive. It's happening in movies AND video games.

The problem now is that people believe EVERYTHING has an agenda behind it.

Here's an example from today.



They think the word 'Men' was removed from X‑Men because SweetBaby Inc. was involved. They didn't even bother to read the article.

Nathan Drake wasn't "replaced" by Chloe. Drake's story was finished, and The Lost Legacy was nothing more than a DLC that grew into a standalone game.

Kratos isn't being replaced either. He's coming back. If someone wants to argue that there was an agenda behind these creative decisions, they'd have to prove that they never intended to tell Faye's story.

Jin to Atsu? It could be.
Aloy? Nothing. Aloy's optional romance option at the end of the DLC? I would assume so.

And we already know what's going to happen when Wolverine and God of War Laufey get closer to release. Positive reviews will be labeled fake, every GOTY award will be accused of being "rigged," and people will claim both games underperformed.

"It's our own unique take on the world, and as such, we are putting it in modern times" … modern audiences, modern times… come on man… it ain't a stretch.

Still, the game will be alright. Spider-man: Miles Morales and Spider-man 2 kicked ass and so did Horizon and non of those excessively woke and preachy, but some trends are there and you can pretend not to see them, but they are there.

 

[RSMan]

I'd put money on God of War Laundry having little to no blood and gore. Based on that gameplay footage, the heavily armoured enemies don't even seem to have physical bodies.

It's probably going to be endless waves of tree roots, flower monsters, and spirit like enemies hidden behind armour so they can avoid showing any real brutality.

It's painfully obvious that Santa Monica Studio isn't the same developer that gave us the incredible original God of War trilogy.

I genuinely don't see how they're going to pull off faithful remakes of the Greek games. Greek mythology is built on dark, brutal, savage violence, tragedy, and blood soaked spectacle. Trying to sanitize that would completely miss the point of what made those games special in the first place.

 

[Gamer79]

You mean the "fans" who whined because Kratos showed more emotion in the last two games and was no longer a deranged, brutal warrior like in the Greek saga?
But with embarrassing statements like "girl power bullshit" alone, you clearly show that you are one of those people I was talking about.

I have no problem playing as a female protagonist, provided the switch makes sense and isn't permanent. It makes sense because Laufey is part of Norse mythology, so I'm very curious to see how her story ties into the last two installments. And it's not permanent either, since it's already been confirmed that Kratos is involved here and will take on the lead role again in future games.

And the argument "If they want to make female leads, then do it with new IPs" is an absolute joke, too. Almost any new IP featuring a female lead is immediately met by haters like you with a "Great, now I'm being forced to play as a woman again." Be honest with yourself: people like you can never be satisfied.

I smell the Soy from your text. Yes girl power because so many modern games have went the hero Female route.

 

[Panajev2001a]

And it's not permanent either, since it's already been confirmed that Kratos is involved here and will take on the lead role again in future games.

And the argument "If they want to make female leads, then do it with new IPs" is an absolute joke, too. Almost any new IP featuring a female lead is immediately met by haters like you with a "Great, now I'm being forced to play as a woman again." Be honest with yourself: people like you can never be satisfied.

I get where you are coming from but it is at least unconsciously intellectually dishonest and I do not mean it as an attack. You know that Horizon having a female lead is different than how people would perceive GoW switching protagonist for what is the next main entry and not a spinoff… which is why even you are putting your hands forward "And it's not permanent either, since it's already been confirmed that Kratos is involved here and will take on the lead role again in future games" which is verbatim the message shared by the game PR folks.

 

[viveks86]

I guess Devs can't use any purple at all in their games anymore, the woke side have claimed it eh. Let's hope there is zero purple in GTA 6, no purple t shirts, no purple cars and definitely no purple lighting

Welp. They might as well cancel the game then

Spoiler

 

[midnightAI]

Welp. They might as well cancel the game then

Spoiler

 

[DForce]

"It's our own unique take on the world, and as such, we are putting it in modern times" … modern audiences, modern times… come on man… it ain't a stretch.

Still, the game will be alright. Spider-man: Miles Morales and Spider-man 2 kicked ass and so did Horizon and non of those excessively woke and preachy, but some trends are there and you can pretend not to see them, but they are there.

No. You're misinterpreting what's being said.

Team X is not the X-Men. They believe X-Men are being changed to Team-X. They're an entirely different team. The X-Men are a team led by Charles Xavier. There are other teams with "X" within the X-Men universe.

X-Force
X-Factor
X-Corp

..and more.

 

[evanft]

And you guys don't see the problem.

Yes, some developers have an agenda. Some developers try hard to be inclusive. It's happening in movies AND video games.

The problem now is that people believe EVERYTHING has an agenda behind it.

Here's an example from today.



They think the word 'Men' was removed from X‑Men because SweetBaby Inc. was involved. They didn't even bother to read the article.

Nathan Drake wasn't "replaced" by Chloe. Drake's story was finished, and The Lost Legacy was nothing more than a DLC that grew into a standalone game.

Kratos isn't being replaced either. He's coming back. If someone wants to argue that there was an agenda behind these creative decisions, they'd have to prove that they never intended to tell Faye's story.

Jin to Atsu? It could be.
Aloy? Nothing. Aloy's optional romance option at the end of the DLC? I would assume so.

And we already know what's going to happen when Wolverine and God of War Laufey get closer to release. Positive reviews will be labeled fake, every GOTY award will be accused of being "rigged," and people will claim both games underperformed.

It really is amazing how completely, unfathomably retarded SmashJT is. He needs to be studied.

 

[Panajev2001a]

No. You're misinterpreting what's being said.

Team X is not the X-Men. They believe X-Men are being changed to Team-X. They're an entirely different team. The X-Men are a team led by Charles Xavier. There are other teams with "X" within the X-Men universe.

X-Force
X-Factor
X-Corp

..and more.

I know the plausible explanation, but the decision to "make it our world, not having the original X-men, but something fitting the modern times" … come on mate, you are the one grasping at straws here…

You know exactly the "modern" implies in this context and it is the same ol' modern thighs for modern audiences we have heard before from the same people.

"It's our own unique take on the world, and as such, we are putting it in modern times"

Like the game will not be crap and all, but you are head buried in the sand on this particular hill you are fighting on. I mean who are we gaslighting here? You are not like that.

 

[midnightAI]

And you guys don't see the problem.

Yes, some developers have an agenda. Some developers try hard to be inclusive. It's happening in movies AND video games.

The problem now is that people believe EVERYTHING has an agenda behind it.

Here's an example from today.



They think the word 'Men' was removed from X‑Men because SweetBaby Inc. was involved. They didn't even bother to read the article.

Nathan Drake wasn't "replaced" by Chloe. Drake's story was finished, and The Lost Legacy was nothing more than a DLC that grew into a standalone game.

Kratos isn't being replaced either. He's coming back. If someone wants to argue that there was an agenda behind these creative decisions, they'd have to prove that they never intended to tell Faye's story.

Jin to Atsu? It could be.
Aloy? Nothing. Aloy's optional romance option at the end of the DLC? I would assume so.

And we already know what's going to happen when Wolverine and God of War Laufey get closer to release. Positive reviews will be labeled fake, every GOTY award will be accused of being "rigged," and people will claim both games underperformed.

They are also making an actual X-Men game so, yeh, he's a bit dim

 

[Prodyhig]

Year 2017.

That means there was already a huge number of games with agendas.

For those who think the agenda was released two days ago:

How many games did Gonzito and Bojji play without realizing they were playing games with agendas?

Here:

Woke Content Detector's Curated List of Games

docs.google.com

 

[nush]

aka there's money to be made by going in a female direction.

Don't make me tap the sign.

 

[StueyDuck]

It really is amazing how completely, unfathomably retarded SmashJT is. He needs to be studied.

Never watched his stuff so I dont know.

But if its just a guessing statement I can see how someone could come to the conclusion, SBI were heavily involved with SM2, its actually what kicked off that whole unveiling of the evil doings behind the scenes to the public.

This game like all games would have been in development for many years, too long to pivot, so I can see how one would think the same company that fucked up Insomniacs last super hero game could do it to the next one.

Is he wrong, maybe. I guess so but we'll wait for the game to release. I have no faith after SM2 in Insomniac releasing a game that wasnt designed for 2020 full of weirdo inserts and agendas

This time ill wait for the game to release and see how egregious it is. SM2 was actually the game that stopped me from buying all games day 1 now, so there's definitely history there with all this stuff

 

[DForce]

I know the plausible explanation, but the decision to "make it our world, not having the original X-men, but something fitting the modern times" … come on mate, you are the one grasping at straws here…

You know exactly the "modern" implies in this context and it is the same ol' modern thighs for modern audiences we have heard before from the same people.

They're literally making an X-Men game. Insomniac is in a different universe, and the X-Men currently do not exist. They're slated to appear AFTER Spider-Man 2, which suggests they're going to slowly build up to the X-Men, and knowing Marvel, they would want to have X-Men align with the release of their X-Men movies going forward.

 

[Panajev2001a]

They're literally making an X-Men game. Insomniac is in a different universe, and the X-Men currently do not exist. They're slated to appear AFTER Spider-Man 2, which suggests they're going to slowly build up to the X-Men, and knowing Marvel, they would want to have X-Men align with the release of their X-Men movies going forward.

Mate it is all fine and good, but again… this is a direct statement:

"It's our own unique take on the world, and as such, we are putting it in modern times"

This is them putting things in modern times (for modern audiences) in reference to not having X-men in the game and Team X.

Of course in a licensed X-men game Marvel has some licensing demands such as you know… the name of the brand as "problematic" as some of their modern PR folks would find it. This is a bit "jingle keys look over there…" kind of comment to change the conversation. So leave that aside for now or we just move on and you try to maybe look at this in context.

 

[DForce]

Mate it is all fine and good, but again… this is a direct statement:

This is them putting things in modern times (for modern audiences) in reference to not having X-men in the game and Team X.

Of course in a licensed X-men game Marvel has some licensing demands such as you know… the name of the brand as "problematic" as some of their modern PR folks would find it. This is a bit "jingle keys look over there…" kind of comment .

Now you're being disingenuous.

Are X-Men now Team X in this universe?

 

[Panajev2001a]

Now you're being disingenuous.

Are X-Men now Team X in this universe?

You keep changing topic. In this game there is no X-men team, there is team X (do not try to play in a ship of Theseus like argument ["but they have Jean Grey, etc…" this is X-men… yeah as if having the people in the X-men roster and changing the team name to Team X or X Team would not actually make an even stronger point against what you are saying ]).

This is their unique take for this game and as such they are putting it in modern times (for modern audiences).
Future games is future games and if you make a branded games there are brand rules, this escapes them because it is about their unique take on Wolverine which is the focus of the title.

 

[Banjo64]

You keep changing topic. In this game there is no X-men team, there is team X (do not try to play in a ship of Theseus like argument ["but they have Jean Grey, etc…" this is X-men… yeah as if having the people in the X-men roster and changing the team name to Team X or X Team would not actually make an even stronger point against what you are saying ]).

This is their unique take for this game and as such they are putting it in modern times (for modern audiences).
Future games is future games and if you make a branded games there are brand rules, this escapes them because it is about their unique take on Wolverine which is the focus of the title.

You're wasting your time. You're right, it's clear and obvious, but they will have you here all day denying it.

 

[Unfortunatecookie]

Don't make me tap the sign.

I'm just saying. These guys have neeeeeeeeeeveer given a fuck about 'us' and what we want. So why should we expect them to go in a different direction?

 

[Panajev2001a]

You're wasting your time. You're right, it's clear and obvious, but they will have you here all day denying it.

It has started to cross my mind, but until the leader of the Sony Ponies Union decides what we should think, I am stuck .

 

[DForce]

You keep changing topic. In this game there is no X-men team, there is team X (do not try to play in a ship of Theseus like argument ["but they have Jean Grey, etc…" this is X-men… yeah as if having the people in the X-men roster and changing the team name to Team X or X Team would not actually make an even stronger point against what you are saying ]).

This is their unique take for this game and as such they are putting it in modern times (for modern audiences).
Future games is future games and if you make a branded games there are brand rules, this escapes them because it is about their unique take on Wolverine which is the focus of the title.

You're wasting your time. You're right, it's clear and obvious, but they will have you here all day denying it.

How about you guys look up the stories within X-Men?

Wolverine was in Team X BEFORE he joined the X-Men.

The X-Men are not in our game, and where we do start is Logan has been around for a while. He's been part of a team called Team X.

Wolverine was part of Team X.

yeah as if having the people in the X-men roster and changing the team name to Team X or X Team would not actually make an even stronger point against what you are saying ]).

This is a shaking head moment.

Mutants were around before the X-Men were formed. Team X is a specific group, and that's what it says he's BEEN part of a team called Team X. If Team X were X-Men, then that would mean he was part of the renamed X-Men but left, and that's not what happened.

Are you even familiar with the X-Men series?

 

[John Bilbo]

But thats not retconning if planned from the start

Prove it was planned from the start. Prove the ideas and script was written during the development of the 2018 game. Prove it is not retconning.

Prove it is, I'm saying we don't know either way, I'm theorising, you'd have to ask Corey directly not me.

God of War 2018 development began in 2014. The Director of God of War Laufey Ariel Lawrence worked in the project two years. She has been a part of every God of War game from the beginning until 2016 in some form. She left the company for two years but came back.

Barlog asks the director: "So... when you found out, coming here, that you were working on a Faye game, what was your thoughts?"

The director answers: "I was excited. I was a little shocked. Surprised, I think, that we were gonna do something different.

I think when I was coming back and was talking to folks, I had just assumed it would be another Kratos game, and that's who I would be telling stories about for the rest of my life. And I was okay with that!

But I think finding about Faye and just, you know, seeing somebody who's journey that we could really explore and turn new pages on, was exciting. You know, looking at the world in a different lens was exciting.

So it was, you know, just saying yes to that opportunity, I think was really cool."

She states a bit later in the interview: "But I think for Faye, that was that question of, you know, who is she? You know, who was this person that everybody idolized and, you know, just stood in awe of and to really think about all the facets that make up that person."



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Emphases by me.

Okay. So she worked on the franchise in some capacity from the start and was working on God of War 2018 for two years. It is stated, however, that she only worked on God of War 2018 in the role of Additional Development Support.

It could be that she was just out of the Faye script loop. It does seem though that the idea of Faye's story as it is in Ragnarok and Lafey was not present at least in the first two years of the development of God of War 2018.

I do have to point out it would take severe dedication from the script writing team to write at least three full games (maybe more?) before hand. I do wonder if Sony would encourage such behaviour.

I think I'll look into this more. I want to know how Sony works a bit more and how God of War and Santa Monica Studios work.

Now I have to go to sleep nighty night!

In the interview Barlog also states that when they started working on the Laufey game they considered making it a prequel:

"Moving to a Faye game, and kind of seeing it move forward. Rather than say like, hey let's do a Faye game, which we did explore: At the beginning, we were like, let's do the time before so we can really see all these cool moments, like when she was making the axe with Brok and Sindri, and all the drama that happened with that.

But ultimately the most interesting part was really to tackle, like, hey what happened when she died, and what continued on and started to create this new layer that exists above."

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Based on the evidence collected they seem to design the story on a singular game basis: they also touch on Odin's fear of death in Ragnarok and how they took Odin's question about afterlife as the main focus in this upcoming Laufey game. The premise for this game is the answer to Odin's fear of death in the previous game.

 

[Banjo64]

How about you guys look up the stories within X-Men?

Wolverine was in Team X BEFORE he joined the X-Men.



Wolverine was part of Team X.



This is a shaking head moment.

Mutants were around before the X-Men were formed. Team X is a specific group, and that's what it says he's BEEN part of a team called Team X. If Team X were X-Men, then that would mean he was part of the renamed X-Men but left, and that's not what happened.

Are you even familiar with the X-Men series?

Wow. It would have been so easy for the Creative Director of the game to cite this if that was their motivation. It's so strange how instead he chose to say 'we're making it modern and gay'. How peculiar.