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Why do western devs make female characters uglier in their games?

Why do we have gamer amnesia on here all the damned time?

People were poking fun and side eyeing fat Thor the moment he was revealed. Even disappointed thst he was emasculated as a pathetic alcoholic with daddy issues.

The reason females get more traction, is due to one ideology making WOMEN THEIR BATTLEGROUND in the great culture war.


But it goes to show that SSM isn't create Faye without makeup to serve the "YASSS Queen" crowd. This is just their ethos. They do it with men and women characters.
 
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Please sir. I am selling my consoles, you were right. I don't deserve to game. Help me

You know what's incredibly ironic? You storm in here, throwing insults around then immediately start whining about how obnoxious and vitriolic everyone else is, all while being even more obnoxious and vitriolic.
It's the classic "rules for thee, but not for me" routine.

Once again, people like you demonstrate a complete lack of self-awareness. The standards you demand from everyone else somehow never seem to apply to you.

It's either "incels", "racists" and "go back to your mom's basement", shit, at this point, I think it would be wise to learn some new words and/or epithets cause that shit has stopped being original.
 
That's all I'm seeing here. People are pretending to miss that post while posting how accurate the models are in a Kojima game. Meanwhile so are Santa Monica's unless you ignore that post.


As a gamer herself wanting to see the reaction of gamers I bet this uproar is doing work on Debra's self esteem. Then we wonder why actresses get all kinds of surgeries as they age.

As a bodybuilder I sometimes think I'm superficial but neogaf takes the cake. The game looks amazing. Too bad no eye boners means it will sell less.

I really liked the actress since her role in Daredevil, this was way before GOW nonsense. She is not 10/10 but she still looked very attractive to me.

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GOW:L model is not comparable to her.
 
Jesus Christ..... :messenger_weary: :messenger_weary: :messenger_weary: 🤮

The AI edit looks like pure crap to me. It literally isn't a smart artistic interpretation of what just happened in that scene.
There's nothing realistic about a world of magic. The point was proven with The Witcher in here and how witches would rather present themselves.

What would be realistic, is women seeing their reflection in the sword and wanting to clean up their hot mess looking ass up. 😂
 
You know what's incredibly ironic? You storm in here, throwing insults around then immediately start whining about how obnoxious and vitriolic everyone else is, all while being even more obnoxious and vitriolic.
It's the classic "rules for thee, but not for me" routine.

Once again, people like you demonstrate a complete lack of self-awareness. The standards you demand from everyone else somehow never seem to apply to you.

It's either "incels", "racists" and "go back to your mom's basement", shit, at this point, I think it would be wise to learn some new words and/or epithets cause that shit has stopped being original.
My man Corsa is always so articulate.

Fuck those "Oh my god GAF is as bad as ResetEra" shit. On the purple place you get banned the second you post a contrary opinion and yet we have retards saying oh GAF is a huge incel echochamber...

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She was not based on human actor, but she was inspired by young Ellen Page for sure. ND was not constrained in any way with changes.
True, but the initial version was so heavily 'inspired' by Elliot/Ellen Page that Naughty Dog actually had to modify her design before launch to avoid issues. And despite The Last of Us Part II being widely labeled as peak 'woke' by many on this forum, it features one of the most compelling, realistic, and attractive female protagonist designs ever made. Unless, of course, some people here confuse a character being 'attractive' with just having massive tits.
 
Thor and Odin were able to kill Giants like Thamur:

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Nothing realistic about that, there is also a man changing into a boar:

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Elfs?

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But make up is a no go? Freya had it:

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Yeah, in a world where anything can happen it seems that some gamers think a woman looking normal is the end of the world more than any other apocalyptic event lol
 
Yeah, in a world where anything can happen it seems that some gamers think a woman looking normal is the end of the world more than any other apocalyptic event lol

She doesn't look normal and she is not a "normal" woman. They made her unattractive on purpose.

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I really liked the actress since her role in Daredevil, this was way before GOW nonsense. She is not 10/10 but she still looked very attractive to me.

Wow she's actually pretty hot. I would enjoy the game more playing with that. Not sure why Sony had to dumb down the beauty... perhaps to appeal a broader audience? I mean think about it, ugly girls get jealous of pretty ones and Sony is ugly.
 
My man Corsa is always so articulate.

Fuck those "Oh my god GAF is as bad as ResetEra" shit. On the purple place you get banned the second you post a contrary opinion and yet we have retards saying oh GAF is a huge incel echochamber...

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Senpai Lecture, a community is what the people who make it up are.
There have been plenty of times where I've read a thread and thought, "For fuck's sake, not this again." Sure, the negativity can get a bit much at times, that said, 80% of the people here are grown adults who are generally well-behaved, and if you genuinely dislike the place and the people in it, you can simply log the fuck off - It's really that simple.

What I've never understood are the people who get triggered, storm into a thread and immediately start regaling everyone with colorful epithets: incels, virgins, racists, bigots, whatever the flavor of the week happens to be. Apparently, labeling an entire community is easier than actually engaging with it...

Then you have bossman and the mods, who put in a ton of work. Honestly, you have to be a special kind of shithead to get banned here. You practically have to make it your life's mission. The moderation team is incredibly lax but at the same time there's a very clear line: act like an asshole long enough and you'll eventually get shown the door. And you know what? It works. I wouldn't have it any other way.

I bring this up because lately I've noticed more and more users pulling the same tired routine: "incels," "virgins lol," "you're all racists," followed by the obligatory attempt to shove everyone into the same shit -basket...

And yes, the whole woke vs. anti-woke debate has become exhausting but...can you really blame people for being fed up at this point ? It's been over a decade of being told what to think, how to act, what qualifies as racist™, what doesn't, which words are acceptable, which opinions are forbidden, and so on.

Then you pile on the corporate PC bullshit. The kind that's so obviously performative that nobody with functioning eyes can miss it. Unsurprisingly, it has divided people. Combine that with the fact that most people don't enjoy being lectured to, and congratulations: you've created the perfect recipe for endless shitstorms.

I've generally avoided getting involved in these discussions, but even today I've already been called an incel twice and lumped together with other "wrong-thinkers." Apparently, the prescribed treatment is either touching grass or seeking professional help.

Which brings us back to the irony of it all: people endlessly complaining about how obnoxious, toxic, and vitriolic everyone else is while somehow managing to be even more obnoxious, toxic, and vitriolic themselves.

And you know what's really funny? The same companies that spent years planting the proverbial seeds of all this division are probably sitting back and enjoying the spectacle.

Peace.
 
I really liked the actress since her role in Daredevil, this was way before GOW nonsense. She is not 10/10 but she still looked very attractive to me.

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GOW:L model is not comparable to her.

You guys keep posting her 20 years ago. I liked her then and I like her now. You've seen the comparisons, she looks 40+ with no makeup in the game. Sorry that offends you.
 
You guys keep posting her 20 years ago. I liked her then and I like her now. You've seen the comparisons, she looks 40+ with no makeup in the game. Sorry that offends you.

This was 11 years ago...

She is 41 now, this doesn't mean she has to be 41 in the game, action in the game takes place when actress was 33 yo.

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This is from 2026, not bad for her age.
 
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I think in the case of this new God of War it's definitely a lack of make-up - they seem to have done a pretty good job of modeling her, but it's the same as Intergalactic, you take away all makeup and beautification women usually use and it doesn't look good. Her skin and hair looks ratty. So I do think wokism plays a role because they probably feel it would be sexist or something to doll them up a bit when it's just normal lol.

For me, the craziest new one is Jean Grey - she is hideous, and again like with Mary Jane - that character has always been attractive. Like wtf is this.

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If anyone thinks they are scanning an actress, working with her for months doing performance capture and then saying "let's make her ugly" they are out of their minds lol, it's a game version of a person being compared to the real life version which is already unfair. Lighting in games isn't going to be the same as real life, in movies and film they work on lighting for hours before shooting a close up and then still edit it after the fact.

Others have pointed out a lot of photos people are using of her in real life are from when she was much younger and they are also airbrushed/edited to look even better.

Go look at how WWE 2k games do earlier version of wrestlers like the Undertaker, 1999 undertaker has the current undertakers face scan with old hair styles added on top, it's actually funny because a 30 year old version of him looks 60. It's almost like things like wrinkles etc stand out more with face scans and the shadows tend to be exaggerated by them. People also complain about most of the womens face scans in those games too, they are not purposely trying to make women look unattractive.
 
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Most guys will bang( not marry, just bang aka pump and dump) even old pussy, kratos being demigod tho isnt most guys, over his life he had unprecendented access to likely thousands of fresh kitties, he defo wouldnt marry(longterm commitment) old hag :P

About mj:

Im real, it was crazy missmatch and clear sign of pushing woke agenda in spiderman2. Even if peter wasnt top of the top superhero but just ur avg teacher looking like he does(aka total chad, in his late 28's wealthy enough to have nice house in the subburbs) he would be swimming in all kinds of kitty, so 0 reason to commit to one looking like mj in spidey2 :)

S1 smallvile martha kent was 48yo+ (born april 1952), smallvile started airing in 2001

She still looks hotter from mj in spiderman2 rofl, and keep in mind she was chosen to be supermans mom in smallvile coz of her pecculiar look(unfuckable/mom look) :D


The way some of you talk about woman is embarrassing, god damn.
 
Was never going to buy this anyway, but putting ugly hag with warts and moles in as main character cements it.

(although Alex 'bouncing' Battaglia and John 'Three-Chins' Linneman will at least be happy enough to review it now)
 
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I'll add that question : why does Sony force us to play female characters in almost all their major games?
I love it. More female playable characters the better. Waiting patiently for a Rivet game. Looks don't matter and I'll never get the obsession with playable character male or female needing to meet some imaginary bar of attractiveness.

Personality beats physical looks in the real world for me, so maybe that's why it applies to me for games as well.
 
I love it. More female playable characters the better. Waiting patiently for a Rivet game. Looks don't matter and I'll never get the obsession with playable character male or female needing to meet some imaginary bar of attractiveness.

Personality beats physical looks in the real world for me, so maybe that's why it applies to me for games as well.

Why?

I'm not opposed to playing as Lara Croft or Jesse Faden, or other female protags if they come but as a dude I wouldn't ever say the more females to play the better, tell me why
 
Why?

I'm not opposed to playing as Lara Croft or Jesse Faden, or other female protags if they come but as a dude I wouldn't ever say the more females to play the better, tell me why
I enjoy playing as them/ seeing their stories. I'm a straight male, so i enjoy seeing the game world as a female or gay character, from a different perspective. I'd rather a series diversify a bit with other characters than just focus on Kratos. Kratos story will continue, fleshing out the universe with another character is fun and refreshing.
 
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Wow she's actually pretty hot. I would enjoy the game more playing with that. Not sure why Sony had to dumb down the beauty... perhaps to appeal a broader audience? I mean think about it, ugly girls get jealous of pretty ones and Sony is ugly.
Even the "broader audience" thing doesn't make any sense when the fact remains that beauty is and always will sell and appeal to the masses more in visual entertainment mediums and marketing.

It's biology 101, really.

They're trapped in a cultural bubble by the industry being hijacked with development filtered through HR rulesets as well as large hedge investment firms that have been trying to upend "cultural norms" through almost every western industry.
 
My man Corsa is always so articulate.

Fuck those "Oh my god GAF is as bad as ResetEra" shit. On the purple place you get banned the second you post a contrary opinion and yet we have retards saying oh GAF is a huge incel echochamber...

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There is a difference between users actions and how the forum reacts to said users actions.

There are absolutely people on this forum that act just like on ResetEra. They just happen to be on the "other side". " Get that woke shit out of here " when it's just a game with a fucking woman in it and other similar bullshit.

This forum (especially as of late) is just as obsessed with "woke shit" as ResetEra users are with the complete opposite even down to the users that won't accept different POVs/opinions and think that they need to be silenced.

Sounds familiar, right? I'm also tired of all this "woke" bullshit but I'm not gonna cry when I see a character that isn't hot and I'm not going to spend time getting myself worked up over it.
 
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