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[Eliciel]

Following the thread I understand that this is not developed by Cory. Which to me makes this totally fine. It's a spin-off, it's making Sense to amplify your output by that and make Sure you continuation of a multi million dollar brand to proliferate AND deliver upon the claim that SSM doesn't deliver too many games WHILE keeping a good enough quality. It's the price you pay...you cannot expect SSM to do nothing at all with the brand outside of Kratos....

 

[Boneless]

Unfortunately, he is right. This is the new normal. And threads like these are the living embodiment of it. We are 30 pages into a thread of a reveal of a new game. A reveal that showed gameplay, cutscenes, and the first glimpse into a new world and characters.

And pretty much the entire thread is about it being a woman, purple colors, how the woman looks, and this surprising new high horse about NPC design choices (mind you this is an audience that had no issue with a glowing ord with wings screaming hey listen), totally ignoring the fact that unlike most other companion npcs in games that just tag along with the character for comedic or informative diversion. And hardly a mention of it as an actual game.

The cube and ribbon in this game actually tie to gameplay and combat. I wonder what people would say if you could also jump on the cube to get to higher places in addition to bouncing enemies off it to extend combos.

I would say people see agendas everywhere these days, even when there are none, because that's where their head is at. And this game... is a clear example of something like that.

It's not about playing a woman, its about playing a cool charactaristic character that people want to play.

Plenty of examples of good games and movies with strong female leads. Ive just played Nier Automata, amazing!

 

[Moondoggy]

A 30-page thread about whether Freya is ugly is hilarious, to say the least.

You're not talking about the game here, nor are you even criticizing aspects of the gameplay, lore, etc. You're just saying you find her ugly.

Some of you have been posting the same picture of the actress on every page.

I can understand it in the first 10 pages of the thread, but every time a new page is opened, it's the same shitposting with the same pictures.

I don't even want to imagine what will happen when we see the face of the protagonist (Ciri) from The Witcher 4 in actual gameplay...

People are allowed to have opinions on things, just like you're allowed to not agree with them, that doesn't make this forum or the people on it "The problem". Sorry we're not an echo chamber over here like Resetera, maybe you'd be more comfortable there where I'm sure they're banning people for saying she looks less attractive than the actress they scanned.

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

I'm not bothered with a female protag thats fine but I'm sorry that fucking cube named frank talking like some asshole from jersey shore ain't doing it for me. I mean I just don't get it.

I'll still play it because I can't resist but I just don't understand some of the choices

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

Who the fuck cares where the green jelly cube and pink ribbon originated from?


The real question is why these things are in God of War to begin with

Isn't this is somewhat of a contradictory post? Saying who cares where they are from, then asking why they are there?

Anyways, a jelly cube and talking ribbon isn't the craziest thing I have seen in games. Or maybe I am just more open-minded than some.

And for me, what I took away from that reveal was that the talking ribbon was an area effect/range weapon modifier, and the cube was a combo and stun modifier.

I don't know, I just don't subscribe to writing off an entire game based on what has been shown, unless what was shown was fundamentally and obviously really bad, or just not the kinda game I would play.

I hate the idea of the cube, I think this is the worst part of the reveal.

The sidekick should have been the ribbons and that's it.

That cube is uninspired and uninspiring.

Thank you, this is the kinda criticism (actual opinion) I can respect and appreciate.

I too was taken aback by the cube when I first saw it, until I saw how it worked as an assist element in combat. Only then did I go, ok, lets see where they are going with this.

As for the ribbons being the only sidekick, to me, I see this as no different than the other entries in the series. You have always had two sidekicks, with the only difference here being that now both of them directly tie into the combat and gameplay. Unless you forget that Kratos had Atreus and a talking head.

It's not about playing a woman, its about playing a cool charactaristic character that people want to play.

Plenty of examples of good games and movies with strong female leads. Ive just played Nier Automata, amazing!

I thought this character was cool. How does she move while fighting? Even the expressions she makes, like that pull-to-spin slash thing she did at the end of the trailer. I do not see anything about this female lead that would make me say she's not a strong female lead. Hell... I dare say this is my favorite female lead in any game since Selene in Returnal.

Like if I would ever imagine what someone who is the wife to and softens Kratos and commands his respect would be... this would be it...

In that trailer I didn't for one second see anything that would make me go... what kinda weak ass lead is this?

 

[FalsettoVibe]

It's not about playing a woman, its about playing a cool charactaristic character that people want to play.

Plenty of examples of good games and movies with strong female leads. Ive just played Nier Automata, amazing!

Curiously, in your opinion, what makes the Nier Automata character cool vs Faye?

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Who the fuck cares where the green jelly cube and pink ribbon originated from?


The real question is why these things are in God of War to begin with

Gelanteous cubes and talking swords (or inanimate possessed objects) are a D&D kind of thing.

Although even if you fight or bump into them, they arent wise crackers. So what SSM did is give them personality so they arent dead silent all game. But the personalities given are like medieval court jesters or a character from How I Met Your Mother.

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

People are allowed to have opinions on things, just like you're allowed to not agree with them, that doesn't make this forum or the people on it "The problem". Sorry we're not an echo chamber over here like Resetera, maybe you'd be more comfortable there where I'm sure they're banning people for saying she looks less attractive than the actress they scanned.

I completely agree with you... or at least what you are saying.

But the sad truth is that in most cases... or specific threads, GAF is also an echo chamber. Just in the opposite direction that RE is.

I will say this, though: not liking how the character looks, not liking her outfit, not liking how she sounds, or hell even not liking that jumping seems to be back in the game...etc, yes, those are opinions. And if that is what was happening here, I wouldn't be saying anything. But not liking a game because the lead character is a woman, and going on to ignore everything else, and shit posting? That's not an opinion.

lets not pretend that it is... things are being said in this thread that have absolutely nothing to do with the game itself. You can't sincerely call that an opinion.

Curiously, in your opinion, what makes the Nier Automata character cool vs Faye?

Very good question.... I mean I have my theories, but I, too, am curious to hear why.

Although even if you fight or bump into them, they arent wise crackers. So what SSM did is give them personality so they arent dead silent all game. But the personalities given are like medieval court jesters or a character from How I Met Your Mother.

I think there are more jester-type personalities in the new GOW games than at any time in the franchise's history, so them being of that ilk in this entry isn't surprising to me. You already forgetting the last two entries?

 

[FalsettoVibe]

People are allowed to have opinions on things, just like you're allowed to not agree with them, that doesn't make this forum or the people on it "The problem".

I can partially agree with the people are allowed to have opinions part. Not sure I agree about this forum not being a problem part. This place needs a ton of work. The low-effort, lack of intelligence, negative shitposts are off the charts. And nothing is being done about it because if they did, site traffic would plummet.

Sorry we're not an echo chamber over here like Resetera, maybe you'd be more comfortable there where I'm sure they're banning people for saying she looks less attractive than the actress they scanned.

Oh, it's still just as much an echo chamber. Era's is just a manufactured one through repeated bans and warnings. This place is slightly different. The dominant views here are developed organically from the user base rather than enforced rules or bans. I'm not necessarily saying that is a bad thing, but in GAFs case it comes off to me as a tribal echo chamber vs the manufactured hivemind of the other place. Its more organic but still BS.

 

[MayauMiao]

I still can't get over how this look ridiculous.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I completely agree with you... or at least what you are saying.

But the sad truth is that in most cases... or specific threads, GAF is also an echo chamber. Just in the opposite direction that RE is.

I will say this, though: not liking how the character looks, not liking her outfit, not liking how she sounds, or hell even not liking that jumping seems to be back in the game...etc, yes, those are opinions. And if that is what was happening here, I wouldn't be saying anything. But not liking a game because the lead character is a woman, and going on to ignore everything else, and shit posting? That's not an opinion.

lets not pretend that it is... things are being said in this thread that have absolutely nothing to do with the game itself. You can't sincerely call that an opinion.


Very good question.... I mean I have my theories, but I, too, am curious to hear why.

The laughs about Laufey is mainly due to her taking over a GOW gme which is legacy wise Kratos kicking butt. And Sony's big shift to gender swapping main characters. Probably the one they did the reverse (female lead to male lead) was Returnal to Saros.

You dont see anyone ragging on the new Tomb Raider with Lara Croft again. Because that's the IP's foundation. Now if they released a new Tomb Raider game and it starred her brother Larry Croft, it would be ridiculed. Oh, and Larry finds a giant green jello in a cave as a teammate.

If the new GOW was Kratos battling all these new mythical demon beasts it would be much better received.

Also, how many people out there like watching giant walk sim segments and have an IP which is based on epic battles and plot having some NPC allies which are comedic relief D&D gelanteous cube and talking sword. The trailer showed a gritty setting with grusome battles and you got a green blob talking like it's a 2002 sitcom for teenagers.

Why not just have an ally who's a tough warrior or a spirit wolf etc.... Something not out of place like a walking green square.

 

[ResilientBanana]

It's funny about Halo, because even playing as Master Chief...

Halo Infinite is a piece of crap, plain and simple.

What I mean by this is that if I'm playing a better Halo game than Infinite instead of Master Chief, I'd be happy if they changed the character...

I prefer a good game to obsessing over the characters, which is what's happening here.

I might think the James Bond character from First Light is great, but if I'm ultimately playing a game that's technologically outdated from 2014, I don't care about the character.

Halo Infinite, while limited in setting and story, wasn't a bad game. But also the MC is iconic, but most of all he looks iconic and has done so for decades. She looks like an average middle aged woman, if that's what they are going for, they could have made her less average and more iconic and memorable. She doesn't need big tits or a bubble butt to accomplish that, but they did go out of their way to make her uglier than her real-life self. Rise of the Tomb Raider portrayed an iconic,classy, and memorable protagonist well. Not sure why God of War needed to go this route.

 

[DeepEnigma]

No care with a female protag thats fine but I'm sorry that fucking cube named frank talking like some asshole from jersey shore ain't doing it for me. I mean I just don't get it.

These are now the "amusement park cinema" of games. Just like the MCU/DCU.

Martin Scorsese Compares Marvel Movies to Theme Parks: ‘That’s Not Cinema’

"The Irishman" director's dismissal of the Marvel movies have stirred responses from other filmmakers and comic book personalities.

variety.com

 

[Moondoggy]

I completely agree with you... or at least what you are saying.

But the sad truth is that in most cases... or specific threads, GAF is also an echo chamber. Just in the opposite direction that RE is.

I will say this, though: not liking how the character looks, not liking her outfit, not liking how she sounds, or hell even not liking that jumping seems to be back in the game...etc, yes, those are opinions. And if that is what was happening here, I wouldn't be saying anything. But not liking a game because the lead character is a woman, and going on to ignore everything else, and shit posting? That's not an opinion.

lets not pretend that it is... things are being said in this thread that have absolutely nothing to do with the game itself. You can't sincerely call that an opinion.

I can partially agree with the people are allowed to have opinions part. Not sure I agree about this forum not being a problem part. This place needs a ton of work. The low-effort, lack of intelligence, negative shitposts are off the charts. And nothing is being done about it because if they did, site traffic would plummet.



Oh, it's still just as much an echo chamber. Era's is just a manufactured one through repeated bans and warnings. This place is slightly different. The dominant views here are developed organically from the user base rather than enforced rules or bans. I'm not necessarily saying that is a bad thing, but in GAFs case it comes off to me as a tribal echo chamber vs the manufactured hivemind of the other place. Its more organic but still BS.

Holy fuck with these two clowns and their redditor tier, pseudo-intellectual bullshit, it's a videogame forum on the internet Sweet Susan, we're not discussing the merits of Shakespearian values in a post modern era, get the fuck over yourselves.

 

[Plague Doctor]

I still can't get over how this look ridiculous.

It's promo art like this that convinces me Western AAA's aren't even taking this shit seriously anymore.

This why Dominos dunking on them is hilariously appropiate. I hope Wendys and Burger King jumps into the fray. That's the level of discourse a wise cracking gelantous cube and talking ribbons deserve.

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

The laughs about Laufey is mainly due to her taking over a GOW gme which is legacy wise Kratos kicking butt. And Sony's big shift to gender swapping main characters. Probably the one they did the reverse (female lead to male lead) was Returnal to Saros.

You dont see anyone ragging on the new Tomb Raider with Lara Croft again. Because that's the IP's foundation.

If the new GOW was Kratos battling all these new mythical demon beasts it would be much better received.

Obviously, that's what the issue is here. And its being dressed up as everything else. But that's what it comes down to, I am playing a woman instead of Kratos.

But that to me is a weak, silly reason to hate on anything. Especially if this woman ends up being just as good an ass kicker. I also do not mind playing a GOW game in a 7+ part ongoing series, not playing as Kratos for a change. Especially when this game is more of a spin-off based on the GOW universe. That's like me hating on Star Trek Discovery because its a female lead and based on a different timeline.

Also, how many people out there like watching giant walk sim segments and have an IP which is based on epic battles and plot having some NPC allies which are comedic relief D&D gelanteous cube and talking sword. The trailer showed a gritty setting with grusome battles and you got a green blob talking like it's a 2002 sitcom for teenagers.

Errr.... you do realize that you just described GOW 2018 and Ragnarok, right? Just replace the cube with a talking head.

Holy fuck with these two clowns and their redditor tier, pseudo-intellectual bullshit, it's a videogame forum on the internet Sweet Susan, we're not discussing the merits of Shakespearian values in a post modern era, get the fuck over yourselves.

I'm shocked you would say this.... and pretty rich coming from you, I might add.

Can't make a counterpoint, so attack the poster. Classic.

And pls shut up with that its a game forum nonsense... cause thats been exactly my point. This is a game forum, and in a game thread fuckers like you are talking about everything but the actual game.

I still can't get over how this look ridiculous.

That shocked me too... like its super easy to make great cover art... I can't believe thats the best they came up with.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I still can't get over how this look ridiculous.

Imagine being tha artist who had to draw that. It's not even correct either. Its supposed to be a green blob, not shiny like metal.

 

[Jesb]

It does look pretty good and the gameplay looks great. That's absolutely not what is the problem here.

They know how to do flashy graphics, solid gameplay and competent music/sound. But the rest, done by the creative people, is wokeism indoctrination. And this is not OK.

Totally. God of war is about Kratos. I can see why people would be upset. It's another case of injecting a game with your ideals and pushing a certain agenda that you want. Sony does this a lot. Also they make characters uglier than the actress. I don't know why the actress in these games are ok with the misrepresentation

 

[FalsettoVibe]

The laughs about Laufey is mainly due to her taking over a GOW gme which is legacy wise Kratos kicking butt. And Sony's big shift to gender swapping main characters. Probably the one they did the reverse (female lead to male lead) was Returnal to Saros.

You dont see anyone ragging on the new Tomb Raider with Lara Croft again. Because that's the IP's foundation.

A quick Google......

So, Kratos and Faye are the same person?

If the new GOW was Kratos battling all these new mythical demon beasts it would be much better received.

I severely doubt it........people would be on the same "sad dad" stuff that they have been on for the past several years. That or crying about series fatigue, or same old same old.

 

[FalsettoVibe]

Quoting myself...

The low-effort, lack of intelligence, negative shitposts are off the charts.

Holy fuck with these two clowns and their redditor tier, pseudo-intellectual bullshit, it's a videogame forum on the internet Sweet Susan, we're not discussing the merits of Shakespearian values in a post modern era, get the fuck over yourselves.

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No decent rebuttal. Nothing worthwhile to say. Just name calling and typing shit, just be typing. lol
You can't make this crap up.

 

[archangelmorph]

Honestly, based take. Ever since 2018 God of War has been God of Soy.

Yeah bro!

Fuck them sissy SSM fools!

None of them should have kids! Us macho bros don't need to develop no sissy sensitivity from becoming no parents. Fuck that!

We all testosterone baby! No soy here! Yeaaaahh!! Murica!!!

...

Seriously this is incel-tier behaviour...

Lay off the Tate YT backlog for a while bro.

Maybe sign up to Tinder (or just pay for pussy) and calm down a bit yeah...?

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Yeah bro!

Fuck them sissy SSM fools!

None of them should have kids! Us macho bros don't need to develop no sissy sensitivity from becoming no parents. Fuck that!

We all testosterone baby! No soy here! Yeaaaahh!! Murica!!!

...

Seriously this is incel-tier behaviour...

Lay off the Tate YT backlog for a while bro.

Maybe sign up to Tinder (or just pay for pussy) and calm down a bit yeah...?

Did someone hurt your vagina?

 

[Moondoggy]

Obviously, that's what the issue is here. And its being dressed up as everything else. But that's what it comes down to, I am playing a woman instead of Kratos.

But that to me is a weak, silly reason to hate on anything. Especially if this woman ends up being just as good an ass kicker. I also do not mind playing a GOW game in a 7+ part ongoing series, not playing as Kratos for a change. Especially when this game is more of a spin-off based on the GOW universe. That's like me hating on Star Trek Discovery because its a female lead and based on a different timeline.

Errr.... you do realize that you just described GOW 2018 and Ragnarok, right? Just replace the cube with a talking head.


I'm shocked you would say this.... and pretty rich coming from you, I might add.

Can't make a counterpoint, so attack the poster. Classic.

And pls shut up with that its a game forum nonsense... cause thats been exactly my point. This is a game forum, and in a game thread fuckers like you are talking about everything but the actual game.

Quoting myself...

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No decent rebuttal. Nothing worthwhile to say. Just name calling and typing shit, just be typing. lol
You can't make this crap up.

Yeah, that's what I thought, not so fun when you're the ones being called out instead and all of a sudden any criticism is just "name calling" and "shitposting". I hope we have 50 more pages of talking solely about her appearance and that she's a woman so you two clowns can go seath about it on reddit. 50 more pages Gonzito I believe in you.

 

[Oberstein]

 

[calico]

I still can't get over how this look ridiculous.

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

Totally. God of war is about Kratos. I can see why people would be upset. It's another case of injecting a game with your ideals and pushing a certain agenda that you want. Sony does this a lot.

If in all the marketing material, I see Kratos, then 1hr into the game, I am stuck playing someone else... I would lose my shit, not even care if its a man or woman. (looking at you, Hideo)

But thats not what this is, Kratos can and will likely have his own next entry, I am all for the series being expanded.

Also they make characters uglier than the actress. I don't know why the actress in these games are ok with the misrepresentation

I do not think this character is "uglier" than her real-life self... I think her depiction in this is as believeable as if it would been if she was playing this role in a live action movie. And the mere fact that the second I saw her, I knew exactly who this character is based on speaks to that.

She looks like what a dishevelled no make-up version of that character would look like.

 

[Bernardougf]

"They hate us! they are changing everything we loved!" ass thread

If you're a fan of the franchise and its characters and lore, you're happy to get a new entry by the same team who made the previous games.

But no,

i WaNt KwAtOs!!

Fucking children.

He'll be a playable character in the game. And he'll be back in full force on PS6.

For now, sit back and enjoy the goddamn expanding of the universe and lore.

 

[FalsettoVibe]

Yeah, that's what I thought, not so fun when you're the ones being called out instead and all of a sudden any criticism is just "name calling" and "shitposting". I hope we have 50 more pages of talking solely about her appearance and that she's a woman so you two clowns can go seath about it on reddit. 50 more pages Gonzito I believe in you.

nvm brotha. lol

 

[KU_]

Gelanteous cubes and talking swords (or inanimate possessed objects) are a D&D kind of thing.

Although even if you fight or bump into them, they arent wise crackers. So what SSM did is give them personality so they arent dead silent all game. But the personalities given are like medieval court jesters or a character from How I Met Your Mother.

Watching the cube fight alongside Fey and bumping into enemies was and is comical. I literally laughed out loud when I saw that.

 

[archangelmorph]

Did someone hurt your vagina?

Yes I did when I was pounding my wife last night.

Blow me. I bet you'd like that too. Pussio.

 

[WellSheet]

You know what this boils down to for a lot of people?

It's not her "fuckableness" - yeah, sure, there is a small percentage who probably genuinely care about that - but it's what COMES ALONG WITH it. We know why these devs are visually representing their females leads this way. We know why these devs are out here talking about "how she is equal to Kratos as a warrior".

It's the masculinization of women and feminization of men.

Why would your core audience not feel slighted by that?

The "enlightened" ones will try and act cool and say it doesn't matter; but to a majority of men, it does.

 

[Gexxy1]

Oh, it's still just as much an echo chamber. Era's is just a manufactured one through repeated bans and warnings. This place is slightly different. The dominant views here are developed organically from the user base rather than enforced rules or bans. I'm not necessarily saying that is a bad thing, but in GAFs case it comes off to me as a tribal echo chamber vs the manufactured hivemind of the other place. Its more organic but still BS.

Bro that's just real life. People have different viewpoints. Expecting these viewpoints to be exactly 50/50 all the time or else it's an echo chamber is a dumb take.

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

Yes I did when I was pounding my wife last night.

Blow me. I bet you'd like that too. Pussio.

No offence, but I am confused... are you advocating for someone to pound your wife? Is that what we are doing on here now?

 

[Hari Seldon]

Man lots of people defending this. If you want to play a walking sim with millennial writing staring Sansa Stark more power to you. Imma hard pass after ultra mid Ragnarok.

 

[archangelmorph]

No offence, but I am confused... are you advocating for someone to pound your wife? Is that what we are doing on here now?

"my vagina" -> belongs to my wife.

Re-read it with this context in mind and it'll all come together Albert.

 

[kpopSuperstar]

Yeah bro!

Fuck them sissy SSM fools!

None of them should have kids! Us macho bros don't need to develop no sissy sensitivity from becoming no parents. Fuck that!

We all testosterone baby! No soy here! Yeaaaahh!! Murica!!!

...

Seriously this is incel-tier behaviour...

 

[WellSheet]

"my vagina" -> belongs to my wife.

Re-read it with this context in mind and it'll all come together Albert.

Ahhhh - Gentleman, I we've found the demographic of "Men" that Tim Walz was connecting with during the 2024 presidential cycle

 

[Gonzito]

Yeah, that's what I thought, not so fun when you're the ones being called out instead and all of a sudden any criticism is just "name calling" and "shitposting". I hope we have 50 more pages of talking solely about her appearance and that she's a woman so you two clowns can go seath about it on reddit. 50 more pages Gonzito I believe in you.

 

[Fake]

I still can't get over how this look ridiculous.

Wait, you didn't like the purple fire?

 

[Traxtech]

Imagine being tha artist who had to draw that. It's not even correct either. Its supposed to be a green blob, not shiny like metal.

Do you understand how light refraction works?

Artistic choice plus with how light would refract through a transparent cube in that environment I'd say its well done.

 

[FalsettoVibe]

Bro that's just real life. People have different viewpoints. Expecting these viewpoints to be exactly 50/50 all the time or else it's an echo chamber is a dumb take.

Did I say that? Did I say they had to be 50/50? Is anything less than that considered an echo chamber? Is that the definition?
Not trying to be an ass, but please think about that before calling it a "dumb" take.

This is kinda funny.......as it somewhat reinforces my point. No shade kpop

 

[archangelmorph]

WTF is a Bluesky?

 

[Moondoggy]

 

[violence]

I still can't get over how this look ridiculous.

They realized too late in development that they had a guy named Frank mansplaining to her. So they turned him into a cube that tells her what to do.

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

You know what this boils down to for a lot of people?

It's not her "fuckableness" - yeah, sure, there is a small percentage who probably genuinely care about that - but it's what COMES ALONG WITH it. We know why these devs are visually representing their females leads this way. We know why these devs are out here talking about "how she is equal to Kratos as a warrior".

It's the masculinization of women and feminization of men.

Why would your core audience not feel slighted by that?

The "enlightened" ones will try and act cool and say it doesn't matter; but to a majority of men, it does.

I completely agree with this. I am not going to say "it doesn't matter," though.

I haven't got my head in the sand and have been seeing this happen across the entire industry. And I will call it out if or whenI feel its forced on me.

In this game, though, in this case... I see nothing wrong with it. I see nothing wrong with a story being made of a character we have known existed since 2018. Of the charcater that used the weapon Kratos has been using since 2018. In this case... it makes sense. If for nothing else, this expands the universe and makes it fresher.

My issue with stuff like this, though, is that you never see in the occasions when the reverse happens. Returnal and control come to mind. No one goes up in arms if the protagonist's focus shifts from women to men.

And I get it... and I would even ignore it for the most part, but the shit posting doesn't just come out as... nope, not gonna play as a woman no matter how the game is, cause that would sound stupid and shallow, so instead they find every possible thing to attack, and in turn start lkeaving a trail of double standards or making baseless arguments. Eg... talking ribbin? Like seriously... is that the craziest thing we have seen in a video game? Especially one that expects us to suspend reality enough to believe you can have a talking head, but we draw the line at a talking ribbon on a sword?

And this is what I mean by double standards, I can probably list like 5 games with weird talking weapons. Hell, even cyberpunk had one, and so did nier... that book thingy.

 

[Gonzito]

Is there a lore reason for this?

 

[Prodyhig]

I completely agree with this. I am not going to say "it doesn't matter," though.

I haven't got my head in the sand and have been seeing this happen across the entire industry. And I will call it out if or whenI feel its forced on me.

In this game, though, in this case... I see nothing wrong with it. I see nothing wrong with a story being made of a character we have known existed since 2018. Of the charcater that used the weapon Kratos has been using since 2018. In this case... it makes sense. If for nothing else, this expands the universe and makes it fresher.

My issue with stuff like this, though, is that you never see in the occasions when the reverse happens. Returnal and control come to mind. No one goes up in arms if the protagonist's focus shifts from women to men.

And I get it... and I would even ignore it for the most part, but the shit posting doesn't just come out as... nope, not gonna play as a woman no matter how the game is, cause that would sound stupid and shallow, so instead they find every possible thing to attack, and in turn start lkeaving a trail of double standards or making baseless arguments. Eg... talking ribbin? Like seriously... is that the craziest thing we have seen in a video game? Especially one that expects us to suspend reality enough to believe you can have a talking head, but we draw the line at a talking ribbon on a sword?

And this is what I mean by double standards, I can probably list like 5 games with weird talking weapons. Hell, even cyberpunk had one, and so did nier... that book thingy.

Rethink your thinking about what's happening here with the announcement that The Witcher 4's protagonist is a female secondary character.

Look at the Witcher 4 threads. Notice there's not as much fuss?

Why do you think that is?

Here's a hint... imagine for a moment that the game includes this:

PlayStation Studios

 

[T-Reks]

When the make-a-wish kids dream is to create a character model for a AAA game

 

[Gexxy1]

Did I say that? Did I say they had to be 50/50? Is anything less than that considered an echo chamber? Is that the definition
Not trying to be an ass, but please think about that before calling it a "dumb" take.

Yes, please do think, that would be helpful.

The dominant views here are developed organically from the user base rather than enforced rules or bans.
but in GAFs case it comes off to me as a tribal echo chamber vs the manufactured hivemind of the other place. Its more organic but still BS.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I don't know why the actress in these games are ok with the misrepresentation