coachmcguirk91
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Haha, I had to rage quit after like 5hrs from losing to Gna in Ragnarok. Only boss I couldn't beat. Both GOW games do a good job of having optional very difficult content
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yogaflame
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Well what made me interested is there is a theory that the arc of laufey is actually happening at the same time with gow 2018. That would be cool if laufey arc is the reason to what had happened to all the scenarios, items, secrets, weapons, enemies, etc. in gow 2018.
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What? How the hell is that relevant? It was almost exactly like God of war
Geow 1,2,3,judgment then 4 and 5
Gow 1,2,3,ascension then 2018 and ragnarok.
Tonal shift even happened at the same point. Keep deflecting more like.
Prodyhig
Woke Content Consultant (DEI-Hire)
It's funny about Halo, because even playing as Master Chief...
Halo Infinite is a piece of crap, plain and simple.
What I mean by this is that if I'm playing a better Halo game than Infinite instead of Master Chief, I'd be happy if they changed the character...
I prefer a good game to obsessing over the characters, which is what's happening here.
I might think the James Bond character from First Light is great, but if I'm ultimately playing a game that's technologically outdated from 2014, I don't care about the character.
coachmcguirk91
Member
I love this easter egg in the trailer. This game will tie in nicely with the previous entries in Norse saga. There will almost surely be a chapter of Faye when she first met Kratos. Probably fighting alongside him
I would be more concerned if they started developing the game after Ragnarok, but it seems like this storyline was planned all along, since before 2018
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Angry_Megalodon
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Interesting opinion...
We start with the billionaire analogies pretty early with this one
Imagine someone believing himself to be deep and profound with this kind of banal brainrot. Neil Druckmann's padawan.
clappedcheeks
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Hey
DenchDeckard
the reason I replied to you was because you were going all conspiracy theory on why a YouTuber was reacting during the stream.
Mr Matty is an Xbox influencer, why the fuck would he get codes from Sony? I also couldn't care less how much you loved GoW and are now disappointed in this, it'll not affect how I perceive the game, and yes it might suck. As should always be the way with any upcoming games, maybe see how things turn out before declaring it a piece of shit.
DenchDeckard
the reason I replied to you was because you were going all conspiracy theory on why a YouTuber was reacting during the stream.Mr Matty is an Xbox influencer, why the fuck would he get codes from Sony? I also couldn't care less how much you loved GoW and are now disappointed in this, it'll not affect how I perceive the game, and yes it might suck. As should always be the way with any upcoming games, maybe see how things turn out before declaring it a piece of shit.
Mr.Phoenix
Member
Ok... wasn't gonna say anything, but this is some reductive, insecure, and ignorant BS.
Its a FUCKING game. That comes first; story, character, and music come after that. In the GOW franchise, we have been playing as Kratos for what, 7 or 8 installments?
And now it's such a bad thing simply because now we are playing as someone else in what's now a plausible expanded world of the IP? I even prefer this to the possibility of playing a standalone game as Atreus.
I am not gonna lie, at this point I actually find it embarrassing that no one is actually talking about its merits as a game, what it's doing right/wrong, its presentation, potential for world building... You know, all the stuff that actually matters when playing a game, but instead, people are so comfortably bitching about it being a woman. Like, when did it become ok to be so openly insecure? We didn't have a problem playing as Kratos who, all the while, was using his wife's axe, but yet have a problem playing a character that was badass enough to even have the Leviathan axe.
You know what's crazy? Not a single person bitchd about the protagonist in control changing from a woman to a man... and if a new Tomb Raider is made and somehow is starring Lana's cousin or son or some shit like that, I can promise you it won't be met with this kinda insecure backlash.
This is just wild to me.
Crimsonhead
Member
Seems like yes, both GOW 2018 and Ragnarok, for me i think it's a great way of intertwine the story on that franchise, like many games do it (seperate ways Re4)
Mr.Phoenix
Member
He's not wrong though....
Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton 1887
Guess it's brain rot when it's coming from Barlog though...
You really think in a world where these gods have left somewhere they were already being worshipped and abusing their power goes to somewhere else they would all just hold hands and sing cumbaya... Have you been living with your head in the sand your whole life? Just look around you and see what people do.
yogaflame
Member
I hope Kratos is the second playable character even just 30 percent of the game will make fans happy and lessen the anger of some fans. And its logical since it is possible they will see each other.
Prodyhig
Woke Content Consultant (DEI-Hire)
I'm not an old school gamer like many of you here.
But I decided to check the official Gears 5 thread.
Developer: The Coalition
Publisher: Xbox Game Studios
Director: Rod Fergusson
Designer(s): Matthew Searcy & Ryan Cleven
Composer: Ramin Djawadi
Platforms: Xbox One & PC
Release: September 10, 2019 & September 5, 2019 (Ultimate Edition)
The world is crumbling. The Swarm has corrupted the Coalition's robot army and is descending upon human cities. With danger closing in, Kait Diaz breaks away to uncover her...
Why are there no mentions of WOKE or any issues with the male character changing to female?
The only discussion is about how boring the game is (which, of course, it is).
It's a perfectly acceptable thread.
Why has the forum deteriorated so much?
But I decided to check the official Gears 5 thread.
Developer: The Coalition
Publisher: Xbox Game Studios
Director: Rod Fergusson
Designer(s): Matthew Searcy & Ryan Cleven
Composer: Ramin Djawadi
Platforms: Xbox One & PC
Release: September 10, 2019 & September 5, 2019 (Ultimate Edition)
The world is crumbling. The Swarm has corrupted the Coalition's robot army and is descending upon human cities. With danger closing in, Kait Diaz breaks away to uncover her...
Why are there no mentions of WOKE or any issues with the male character changing to female?
The only discussion is about how boring the game is (which, of course, it is).
It's a perfectly acceptable thread.
Why has the forum deteriorated so much?
You edited your post for some long text but I feel I need to reply to this. Halo 5 minimised Master Chief and concentrated on Spartan Locke. Let's see if you complained or mentioned that.
Nope you loved that shit as expected:
Bartski
Member
After seeing all the released material, I'm kinda warming up on this after absolutely hating the reveal.
Barlog's interview on IGN is most telling. While I wholeheartedly disagree that this is a better idea than the prequel everyone expected, that doesn't mean it's gonna suck. The entire Greek pantheon will be there, and 100% we're fucking up Zeus again at some point. It opens up tons of variety with the likes of Hachiman, Vaishravan and whatnot...
The combat looks sick. It's basically post-GoW 2018 expanded with 1-3 flavor, focusing on aerials and speed... what's not to love?
We're past the point of diminishing returns, but the visuals are also PS5 gen peak.
I still hate the sanitized disney vibe (that cover art, good fucking lord...), and that it has atrocious comic relief sidekicks that seem like they'll be core to the game both narratively and mechanically. But looking at the initial Faye leak, Tyr is the second playable character, so there should be way more to it.
I'm not passing on this just yet. I loved 2018 and also Ragnarok way more than most. We'll see.
Barlog's interview on IGN is most telling. While I wholeheartedly disagree that this is a better idea than the prequel everyone expected, that doesn't mean it's gonna suck. The entire Greek pantheon will be there, and 100% we're fucking up Zeus again at some point. It opens up tons of variety with the likes of Hachiman, Vaishravan and whatnot...
The combat looks sick. It's basically post-GoW 2018 expanded with 1-3 flavor, focusing on aerials and speed... what's not to love?
We're past the point of diminishing returns, but the visuals are also PS5 gen peak.
I still hate the sanitized disney vibe (that cover art, good fucking lord...), and that it has atrocious comic relief sidekicks that seem like they'll be core to the game both narratively and mechanically. But looking at the initial Faye leak, Tyr is the second playable character, so there should be way more to it.
I'm not passing on this just yet. I loved 2018 and also Ragnarok way more than most. We'll see.
DenchDeckard
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Jesus fucking Christ you are deranged.
You just said imagine if halo replaced Master Chief in a game. I just told you I don't need to imagine it. It pretty much happened in Halo 5. You didn't complain then either.
No, because they are creatively bankrupt and don't want to kill the franchise. The next Kratos gow is going to be terrible because they don't know what to do with it, there is nowhere to go, hence why they keep trying to milk the franchise with remakes, spin offs and shitty 2d games. They know the moment they put a mainline gamez they fucked up and won't sell as good anymore nor have any traction to pull from crappy games just by the name.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
It sounds like something a random redditor would say.
DenchDeckard
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I'm sorry I didn't write a comment 11 years ago about a game that we aren't discussing at all here.
Insanemaelstrom
Member
In every game since god of war 2005, we have seen god's being horrible in general. You think someone with the narcissistic characteristics that odin and zeus have, would get along with each other?. Both odin and zeus want to be top dog. of they ever meet, the only thing they are going to be doing is planning on how to kill the other one so that they alone can be the top dog
I don´t really understand who this game is for.
Much of the aesthetics seem to be aimed at women: The cute animals, the flowery monsters, all the purple stuff everywhere. Very spiritual and gaia-esce (probably why women seemed to like Avatar).
People who play these kind rarely seem to be women from what I can tell.
The mc look like a very plain middle aged woman (I though fentanyl comment in the beginning of the thread was hilarious). Why would I want to play as someone like that? That isnt the kind of power fantasy Im drawn to.
In get the vibe its some kind of vanity self insert project of some has been art teacher at some community collage or something, but with a huge budget and a very talented team to do the work.
Much of the aesthetics seem to be aimed at women: The cute animals, the flowery monsters, all the purple stuff everywhere. Very spiritual and gaia-esce (probably why women seemed to like Avatar).
People who play these kind rarely seem to be women from what I can tell.
The mc look like a very plain middle aged woman (I though fentanyl comment in the beginning of the thread was hilarious). Why would I want to play as someone like that? That isnt the kind of power fantasy Im drawn to.
In get the vibe its some kind of vanity self insert project of some has been art teacher at some community collage or something, but with a huge budget and a very talented team to do the work.
Dibils2k
Member
i really dont get how these 2 link... this Laufey scene is like 10mins after start of GOW 2018, where as the Thor fight is many months (even years?) after that takes place
feel like this is abit of a stretch by the fanbase to force some kind of a cool link
You're the one who brought up Halo in the first place and said imagine if you weren't MC in the next Halo. I just jogged your memory and said I don't need to imagine when in Halo 5 you play 80% of the game as Jameson Locke and not MC. Stop making excuses with irrelevant dates/years all the time when you have no other point and only that silly retort.
MMaRsu
Gold Member
Could be that its a super boring safe looking game
Agreed I don't see the connection at all. Now this scene however I can see connecting:i really dont get how these 2 link... this Laufey scene is like 10mins after start of GOW 2018, where as the Thor fight is many months (even years?) after that takes place
feel like this is abit of a stretch by the fanbase to force some kind of a cool link
Insanemaelstrom
Member
Pretty good theory. Also, an article from a year or two ago, which had leaked the game, mentioned that Faye was accompanied with a sword called Merlin. It is very likely that the third mythos in the game is Celtic. The cube could be merlin himself( there is a famous story wherein merlin gets trapped in a tower of air by nimue( mentioned by mimir in the video), they may have taken liberty and made his prison the airy/watery cube).
The sword could be cadalbog/caliburn/excalibur of some sort. And they maybe trying to tie Faye into Celtic myths with her becoming gow's version of morgan le fey(Faye). Kind of like kratos was tied to norse mythos.
It's mind-boggling. They hired a hollywood actor that is certainly much more expensive than a normal voice actor, then they went through the effort of mocapping a fucking gelatinous cube.
Everyone who approved this shit needs to be fired immediately. This is a hilariously incompetent levels of mismanagement.
WellSheet
Member
DenchDeckard
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You're the one being completely disingenuous by trying to insert MY feelings about games using examples of comments I used about completely different games. How do you know how I truly feel about gears and halos characters and stories? Just because I enjoyed them with my friend in co op?
Imagine if I ended up playing this game and saying you know what I ended up enjoying it. Am I allowed to change my opinion on something. The games not out. How can I comment on it?
Also, why can't I say I'm not interested in this game after Ragnarok?
I made comments based on my impressions of what I was shown and my sentiments line up with a lot of other people think.
You can decide if that's honest or not, but you don't need to comment on it or try drag the thread down by quoting comments that hurt your feelings?
What are you trying to achieve? To anger me into catching a ban?
JMZ555
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JMZ555
Member
The sword dont talk that would be silly....its the ribbons that talk.
CentralScrutinizer
Member
Because 2019 was literally a life time ago in regards to this discourse.I'm not an old school gamer like many of you here.
But I decided to check the official Gears 5 thread.
Developer: The Coalition
Publisher: Xbox Game Studios
Director: Rod Fergusson
Designer(s): Matthew Searcy & Ryan Cleven
Composer: Ramin Djawadi
Platforms: Xbox One & PC
Release: September 10, 2019 & September 5, 2019 (Ultimate Edition)
The world is crumbling. The Swarm has corrupted the Coalition's robot army and is descending upon human cities. With danger closing in, Kait Diaz breaks away to uncover her...
Why are there no mentions of WOKE or any issues with the male character changing to female?
The only discussion is about how boring the game is (which, of course, it is).
It's a perfectly acceptable thread.
Why has the forum deteriorated so much?
If this dropped today the thread would have gone the same exact way. 100% guaranteed.
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DenchDeckard
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Halo infinite was a complete let down I agree. Excellent combat and the grapple was cool. But one biome? Literally one smallish map. Dog shit. Went back to chief though.
midnightAI
Member
Well technically its not the sword that talks, its the ribbons attached to the sword
midnightAI
Member
They aren't technically mocapping the cube, they are mocapping the size and position of the cube so that the rest of the actors in the scene dont go right through him while acting out their parts. It also helps with positioning audio (PS5 has 3D audio afetrall). you'd think an account called MR3D-Dev would know about this.
Nice rant though
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nkarafo
Member
Great.
Prodyhig
Woke Content Consultant (DEI-Hire)
It's nice to look back on those years when we focused on analyzing the important aspects of video games, not politics.
Nobody questioned the change to a female character. And don't tell me there was no "agenda" back then, because there certainly was.
So you truly felt differently but never expressed it, only expressed how much you enjoyed playing those games, and I'm the one being disingenuous? I mean yeah you might enjoy this game too but that's my point you didn't jump to conclusions and whine about these minor things with the other games and people can clearly see that. I agreed with somebody who said you would be all over this if it were an xbox game and based on past evidence of this exact scenario happening with other xbox games it's hard to disagree with that assessment. That seems to have hurt your feelings more than anything. You say now that you held these feelings back for those games and didn't express them in the countless threads for them, but why?
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DenchDeckard
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But it's not capturing the whole picture of what is going on here.
Microsoft have not replaced almost all their leading male mascots with female leads.
That's why the backlash has been what it is. The purple logo, the cute awful character that rolls on the floor and stumbles to be all "awwww cuuute" the cube.
The whole package is flowing pure estrogen
coachmcguirk91
Member
Could be right. Maybe afterlife has dumb rules like Inception. 1min in the afterlife is 1hr in the real world, loli really dont get how these 2 link... this Laufey scene is like 10mins after start of GOW 2018, where as the Thor fight is many months (even years?) after that takes place
feel like this is abit of a stretch by the fanbase to force some kind of a cool link
Physiognomonics
Member
And he is completely wrong here. Billionaires have on average the highest IQ and they would behave in a very civilized manner if they were on an island more so than any other groups of people.Interesting opinion...
We start with the billionaire analogies pretty early with this one
Also he implicitely says that all billionaires are assholes which is what any good marxist would say. Being an asshole has nothing to do with being poor or rich.
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balls of snow
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Mr.Phoenix
Member
Well.. the message is more important. And he's not wrong, agreed the second he starts talking about billionaires, he opens himself up for this kinda criticism... but lets be real here, billionaires are the present-day equivalent for people who are in positions of power and more times than not, abuse that power. So let's start from there... is he right? Or not? I mean, let's even just focus on the world he has built... look at the GOW2018 and Ragnarok, or look at all the mythology stories of gods and goddesses... aren't they an embodiment of all the depravity you can imagine already?
Hence why I insist he's not wrong, maybe he should have been like me and used a quote from the 1800s that no one can argue with, but he's a creator, those people tend to be more opinionated and wear their emotions and ideas on their sleeves... that's what makes them creators.
I just think it's weird to dismiss and disregard an actual, accurate, and honest message, simply because someone doesn't like who is saying it, or in some even worse, nefarious possibility... because they want to take a dig at a person, IP or corporation. I think that kinda behaviour is worse than anything the guy could have actually said.
Exactly!
Safe went out the window the second they made the protagonist a woman. And boring? Really? Well, I envy you, being that you have seen and played more than the intro of the game.
On a serious note though, this is exactly what happens when people try and make points originating from an already flawed logic. Everything they say, just doesn't make sense, will sound petty and shallow and will always seem baseless (literally, like you saying a game is boring based on what is in truth one of the most action-packed first 10 minutes you will find in most games, and yes... 10 MINUTES!!)
yup... I draw the line at 3 characters talking to each other with talking heads attached to my hip and bow-wielding kids with mohawks.
A shapeshifting talking cube and talking ribbons on a sword is just crossing the line for me. Games should be more realistic.
midnightAI
Member
Interesting opinion...
We start with the billionaire analogies pretty early with this one
He's not wrong though, if you look at Mythologies, especially, Roman, Greek and Norse, all the Gods were assholes trying to get one over each other all the time to gain power, they are always stabbing each other in the back or at the very least very .dysfunctional families (family members trying to kill each other is very prevalent)
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Mr.Phoenix
Member
First, he said nothing about billionaires' IQ... second, you must be delusional if you think billionaires (because of their IQ) represent the best of us, you either have too much faith in humanity or you have been living under a rock your whole life. And he didn't say billionaires are assholes, he said the god in the story they depict are assholes, and said billionaires on an island will fight each other. And if you genuinely think that you take the richest and usually the most eccentric people in the world and put them on a smal island with limited resources and they all just become friends and make it work? Well...
Honestly, I would say I am surprised, but hey... Trump was voted into office... twice. So I know there are very interesting people out there.
And most importantly, he isn't even the first person to say what he said... just said it in his own words.
I just disagree I guess. And I can't push my opinion on anyone or try to teach anyone how world-building works.
But how about this...
The cube and ribbon (or head on Hratos hip), being technically formless objects, forces the viewer to focus on nothing but the personalities of the characters. Its easier focusing on a personality when you aren't trying to match it to a person.
The "cute awful character that stumbles"... lets call this a cute dog here, at least we can mostly relate with cute pets rights? Makes its appearance, and then less than 3mins later, you can see them tossing a heap of dead, slaughtered cute dogs into a fire. That's what you call world-building... in 4 mins, they have told you nonverbally how fucked up this world is.
But what do I know... estrogen it is.
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GymWolf
Member
My point was the comparison assholes=billionaires.
He could have stopped with the first paragraphe and still deliver his point.
Not that i want to protect billionaires's feelings but i thought it was a funny tweet to post
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
It's obvious none of you know anything about method acting .... This was one of Jack Quaid's most difficult acting jobs because he insisted to remain in character during the entire production process. Just imagine the stress on him and his girl friend when he had to refrain from sex because gelatinous cubes are sexless. He lost an enormous amount of body weight because cubes don't eart like humans. It was HELL.
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