reezoo
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You are the one who is drawing the line to make her bimbo instead of giving freedom to artist on do as they want, no one else is drawing anything
, also check her mocap you will realise how close they are to original look.
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Why does Sony make female characters uglier in their games?
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, also check her mocap you will realise how close they are to original look.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
I wasn't questioning the cubeDo you know the back story of the cube ? If you are questioning cube then you should stop playing video games immediately or it will be very bad for your mental health
kpopSuperstar
Gold Member
Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
You are the one who is drawing the line to make her bimbo instead of giving freedom to artist on do as they want, no one else is drawing anything
Lol "make her a bimbo", zero good faith debate because you go and your ilk go straight to the extreme opposite of what anyone is even remotely asking for here.
reezoo
Member
so what they are asking? below is her during mocap
Johnny Concrete
Member
She's supposed to look miserable, being dead in a bad place.
It's like comparing The Joker with Heath Ledgers' red carpet pictures..
It's like comparing The Joker with Heath Ledgers' red carpet pictures..
laynelane
Member
You're unironically better off having this conversation with a tadpole dude. The tadpole would actually engage in better faith than the progressive male feminists lurking here. Literal photo evidence in front of their fucking faces, and dipshits will act stupid till the end of time and keep giving the same tired, cliched, and retarded excuses:
No makeup
Poor technology
Bad lighting
Meanwhile this is what Asian developed female characters look like with access to the same tech:
I'm sure the usual suspects aka lurking male allies will stumble over themselves like clowns with some stupid fucking excuses as to why Japanese, Chinese, and South Korean devs just magically make the women look like women and not men unlike Western devs.
Bonus points if they regurgitate these stupid Reddit catchphrases:
Gooner
Incel
Never been with a woman
Touch grass
Don't forget how Western devs can do one for one scans with male characters and their models, but it somehow all falls apart when it comes to female characters. It's tiresome enough that certain devs are still pulling this shit, but the insults aimed at anyone who dares to notice have also become routine and tedious. You can add 'don't you have anything better to do' and 'just go play some games' to that list too.
Looking at the pics you posted, it's amazing what can be accomplished with female characters when the devs don't have a shitty attitude towards women. 'Cause that's what it's about, imo. The need to make female characters less attractive than their models and remove feminine traits (physical and otherwise) reveals a pretty poor outlook on women in general. I'm glad when it gets called out and examined because awareness is a good antidote for that type of ignorance.
Gameplay Gods Bless
Member
Cringe my fiance never wears make up and doesn't look this hideous.Tell me you've never woken up next to a woman who isn't wearing makeup without saying it
Gameplay Gods Bless
Member
The first paragraph nails it. It's just people with progressive ideology making these games.
VeganElduderino
Member
no makeup?
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It's so blatant and obvious. Anyone that denies it I'm just going to assume is either part of the agenda or at least invested in it and therefore they're incapable of having an honest discussion. It's all right there. And btw I'm just going to say it because I'm certain I'm not the only one who thinks this but I actually don't have any problem with the ugly characters at all they're completely fine. I'll laugh and make jokes about them but I don't dislike them or anything like that, at all. It's the gaslighting from the people advocating for these characters I find disgusting.
Gameplay Gods Bless
Member
She's beautiful, straight up beautiful. Wish the game version looked half as good as she does here.
Some of you guys dumb as hell. Women look a lot different when they dont wear makeup and dont do their hair
Barakov
Member
Gameplay Gods Bless
Member
Except you can clearly see she's wearing make up in game.. the cope in this thread by redditors is embarrassing. You don't deserve to have that profile pic.
Gonzito
Gold Member
I enjoy exposing those people in these type of threads. We all know their names by now lol
LectureMaster
Or is it just one of Adam's balls in my throat?
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Member
They either on the Sony payroll or they hit the glass Sony pipe so often they've lost touch with reality. It's sad. You got any more of them Aloys or Concords my guy?
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Witchilich
Member
Why? I love the original 1989 version of Ranma 1/2.
JerryinSoCal
Member
I love the people pretending she's supposed to be a typical every day woman, she's a full blooded giant and she should be putting up a fight against anyone in that "world" she's not some alcoholic pill popping soccer mom lol.
If you don't like how she looks that's up to you, the quality of the model is really good, yeah the lighting can be harsh on her face sometime but that's what happens with video games and not movies where they take hours to light a scene and edit the hell out of it after too. She's also straining and putting effort into things so the expressions make sense even if they aren't attractive. Record your face next time you bench a heavy weight and tell me you don't look ridiculous lol.
If you don't like how she looks that's up to you, the quality of the model is really good, yeah the lighting can be harsh on her face sometime but that's what happens with video games and not movies where they take hours to light a scene and edit the hell out of it after too. She's also straining and putting effort into things so the expressions make sense even if they aren't attractive. Record your face next time you bench a heavy weight and tell me you don't look ridiculous lol.
playbignbox
Member
Because it's wrong to objectify women's bodies, you toxic male.
Now go play Saros and reflect on how you treat women.
Now go play Saros and reflect on how you treat women.
DoktorCoktor
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DavidGzz
Member
All the examples posted on page 3 of Resident Evil characters have makeup on(Even Leon's fabulous ass) in a zombocalypes, for some reason. How long was Ashley in that ganado church? She was looking fresh af. Makeup, nails, pristine stockings, etc. Sony studios go for more realism. I also think Santa Monica just sucks at faces. Look at Atreus' ugly little ass(if he was a girl the outrage would be crazy) and Baldur's mom. I forget her name but damn her face looks weird af. I think Naughty Dog does realistic faces much better. Dina and Elly look great, for example.
This will continue to happen for as long as we see streamer chats pogging out to things like Lara's ass in the TR trailer. Even if there are some like Gonzito who is saying he doesn't care if he can fap to them or not, there is a huge percentage that are outraged for that exact reason. "If it's not a man, she better be hot."-This mentality is exactly why they will continue to fight the "chuds".
Makes for endless threads for the forseeable future. *popcorn gif*
This will continue to happen for as long as we see streamer chats pogging out to things like Lara's ass in the TR trailer. Even if there are some like Gonzito who is saying he doesn't care if he can fap to them or not, there is a huge percentage that are outraged for that exact reason. "If it's not a man, she better be hot."-This mentality is exactly why they will continue to fight the "chuds".
Makes for endless threads for the forseeable future. *popcorn gif*
Esppiral
Member
No, there weren't this idiotic kind of threads 3, 4 decades ago, there. Characters can be based on real people and be sexulized as fucking porn dolls just like the stellar blade model.
And lol at the Aerith one, that porcelain face is exactly the definition of porn doll.
Keep trying
KanKamAndNob
Member
You know what, I can see where you're coming from as far as being too heated. I admit that my initial post had some Ghost Chili Pepper spiciness lol. I'll concede the point on that one.
With that said, I think my point still stands. There are almost entire pages of nothing but "HAHA VIRGIN" variations. No rebuttals, no arguments, nothing but shitposts and memes. I like shitposts and memes as well, but it does get very tiring only hearing the same cliched insults over and over again. It's especially egregious when people are posting side by side comparisons of not just this game's VA's/actresses, but even other games (like Resident Evil which I posted) that can quite literally get every detail of the actress down to the pores to ensure the devs make them look good. I could post more, and many other posters have as well of male characters being straight up clones of their actors without the excuses of "bad tech", "poor lighting", etc. It's a pattern and it's frustrating as fuck to watch in real time people denying what's right in front of them.
As far as the bolded, let me ask you this. You say that "not every game needs to look like that". What Western female characters in the last 13 years is as conventionally attractive as Wong? The only one that I can say actually looks as good as what female characters used to look like pre-Gamergate is Panam Palmer. We used to have them by the dozen literally since Western gaming was a thing. Old Lara Croft, Nova, Cortana (especially Halo 4), the entire cast of MK up to 9 maybe 10, Orchid, Rayne, Elizabeth Comstock, etc.
Why did those characters just die out and get replaced with these, at best, average looking women when they used to be known for being extremely beautiful if not because of figures like Anita Sarkeesian and other feminists talking about stuff like "misoyginistic designs", "defeating the male gaze", "problematic character tropes"? I don't buy the idea that Western devs were just fine making making characters as hot as Eastern devs for decades, and then just suddenly decided to do a complete 180 of female character design, while completley ignoring the males. It doesn't add up at all.
At least you acknowledge that there are ugly female characters though, but the Outlaws chick is just one example. I don't even think it's Ubisoft's incompetence because I actually think that Anne Bonny in the remake for Black Flag looks good for example. She looks way better than I thought they would make her look and yeah the slight covering up the cleavage is cringy and eye rolling but they didn't go full Veilguard like with Isabela for example. so I even question I would say Fable is the single most disgusting and blatant example though lol. That goes beyond ugly though. It's funny to see the side by side of the default Fable 3 and reboot Fable default females:
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KanKamAndNob
Member
Again, define 'porn doll'. I'm not sure if you're trolling or not, but you still haven't answered any of the very simple questions I asked.No, there weren't this idiotic kind of threads 3, 4 decades ago, there. Characters can be based on real people and be sexulized as fucking porn dolls just like the stellar blade model.
And lol at the Aerith one, that porcelain face is exactly the definition of porn doll.
Keep trying
KanKamAndNob
Member
Product Inclusion Action: Help Customers Feel Seen
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John Bilbo
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He's right, you know.Still way too feminine, jaw isnt square enough, her face isnt puffy enough, tities look way too big and attractive, she has proper womanly waist instead of bulging stomach which is ofc big nono, make her minority too, at least 40yo with visible wrinkless and dat thousand cock stare-dead eyes, and put on way more tatoos, we looking for dat ms-13 gangmember cosplay to show off how "strong and indpeendend" she really is
KanKamAndNob
Member
sunquad
Neo Member
I think since Faye has a lot of skin details on her face, path tracing is required to make it shine. Raster lighting can't visualize it nicely. Best bet would be Hero lighting but i don't think they're using it. Idk why. Look at Stellar Blade's Eve during gameplay. That's what hero lighting does.
My Eve is modded but you get the idea.
My Eve is modded but you get the idea.
Esppiral
Member
If you need me to define what a real women can look like and how a porn doll can look, you have the problem, not me.
Mozza
Member
Do you know the back story of the cube ? If you are questioning cube then you should stop playing video games immediately or it will be very bad for your mental health
Please feel free to tell me more about the back story to the cube lol...You are the one who is drawing the line to make her bimbo instead of giving freedom to artist on do as they want, no one else is drawing anything
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Mozza
Member
I will go with willfully ignoring the agenda..
Mozza
Member
The cube should never be questioned, or indeed it's back story revealed.I wasn't questioning the cube
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
"once you recognize the secret reason for her exposure, you will feel ashamed of your words & deeds"The cube should never be questioned, or indeed it's back story revealed.
Mozza
Member
I cant look my eyes are burning, this looks similar to the KIA Soul lol..."once you recognize the secret reason for her exposure, you will feel ashamed of your words & deeds"
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Loboxxx
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Although in our beloved gaming world, it's clear that many players don't know what it's like to go to bed with a woman wearing makeup and then have breakfast with her without... it's also true that God of War is a blockbuster game, and while I understand the intention behind showing the actress without makeup, for obvious reasons of realism, I think that in a fantasy video game, they would avoid many problems and stupid criticisms if they gave a more stylized version of the actress.
In the video game audience, NO ONE is going to appreciate her appearing natural without makeup, and THOUSANDS will criticize the character in the cruelest and most absurd way possible.
Santa Monica, spare the game and the actress this unpleasant experience, and give her a touch of makeup, which I'm sure would look great in such a fantastical world as the one you've created.
In the video game audience, NO ONE is going to appreciate her appearing natural without makeup, and THOUSANDS will criticize the character in the cruelest and most absurd way possible.
Santa Monica, spare the game and the actress this unpleasant experience, and give her a touch of makeup, which I'm sure would look great in such a fantastical world as the one you've created.
