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[Darkmakaimura]

Both have massively disappointed fans of their respective franchise.

But I'm going with Nu-Trek. It's a bloody mess. Inconsistent especially with "returning" characters like young Kirk in Strange New Worlds. Ugh. Bad storylines. A truly terrible movie called Section 31 that makes Disney Star Wars look like Legends in comparison.

Disney Star Wars is at least pretty consistent. Returning characters look like the originals thanks to CGI. Stories are hit and miss but the Disney canon games or at least mostly good.

So my vote goes to Star Trek. That franchise cannot be redeemed at this point.

Edit: meant for off topic. Mods, could you move it there?

 

[darth.shrimp]

I'll go with Disney Star Wars, only because it is a lot more mainstream and thus affects a lot more people.

Fuck Disney.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

I pretty sure we've had this thread before, but it's Trek. Trek is so, so dead.

 

[uncreativename]

Never watched Star Trek apart from stopping for a few minutes every so often as a kid when I was walking through the family room while my Dad was watching one of them. No idea about any of this newer stuff.

So I guess Star Wars by default. I don't really feel super strongly about that either, though.

 

[DarkShadowXI]

I don't really care about either one and it makes me want to yell at the clouds.

But I think Star Wars is worse, given how massive the franchise was.

 

[Laptop1991]

Both for me, i don't watch either of them anymore

 

[kevboard]

Star Trek is absolutely unwatchable...

 

[Mayar]

The choice is just like...

 

[Begleiter]

Star Trek has been hollowed out in a way that leaves it beyond repair, though I don't think anyone at Paramount has realised this yet. Star Wars can dip into its old EU and churn out shows for as long as Gen X lives.

 

[Valt7786]

Nu-trek is definitely worse. Disney definitely fucked Star Wars but I feel Trek has just lost everything that made it Trek to begin with.

 

[Trekinspace88]

Nothing wrong with the modern Trek shows and this is coming from a lifelong Trekkie who grew up watching TNG when it was first airing. I have enjoyed a lot of the shows including Discovery (my avatar is actually from an episode).

As for Star Wars I haven't really enjoyed any of the new shows except for Andor which was great.

 

[Deerock71]

This is the franchise equivalent of this situation:

For some, the left testicle is larger than the right one. For Chuck Norris, each testicle is larger than the other one.

 

[Revolutionary]

They're both dead to me but SW has been dead longer. People these days try to recontextualize the Prequels as "not that bad" (especially in comparison to the Sequels) but, for their time, the Prequels were genuinely awful and killed Star Wars for a lot of fans.

Edit: Oh you're referring to the Sequels specifically with "Disney Star Wars". My mistake. In that case... I still think they're equally bad, honestly.

 

[IDKFA]

Disney Star Wars has a few diamonds in the rough.

Nu Trek is an abomination. Absolute dog shit all over.

 

[HRK69]

Dispose of both

 

[Mayar]

Disney Star Wars has a few diamonds in the rough.

 

[MazingerDUDE]

Disney Star Wars has a few diamonds in the rough.

Nu Trek is an abomination. Absolute dog shit all over.

Picard S3 was great, almost as good as the legacy Treks.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

They're both dead to me but SW has been dead longer. People these days try to recontextualize the Prequels as "not that bad" (especially in comparison to the Sequels) but, for their time, the Prequels were genuinely awful and killed Star Wars for a lot of fans.

I loved the prequels.

 

[IDKFA]

Picard S3 was great, almost as good as the legacy Treks.

 

[KenaiPhoenix]

I always though that 343 take over of Halo was the worse IP take over of all time, until Disney took over Star wars and burned to the ground... and then again, and then again, until Star Wars become just a side show rather than a cultural event.

Star Trek has been on decline for a while hitting new lows recently. But like really REALLY lows.

I think that the difference between them is that at least SW realize they messed up, and there is no women empowerment or 'the chuds just boycott it' excuse that will be heard by the board on this. They want they money back, so they need Star Wars back. In contrast, Star Trek just refuse to even accept that they are wrong. For them giving a 'powerful' message, owning the chuds is still more important. They probably still use 'nazis boycott this. If it wherent for them we would have made a morbillion dollars!' as an excuse for their failures.

so I have to vote the later.

Tldr;
Both sucks, but at least one is aware of it

 

[RespawnX]

For me, Strange New Worlds is the only Star Trek series that captures the original spirit. Let's not talk about Academy … that has nothing to do with Star Trek.
Discovery was an emotional roller coaster. If they'd just cut the drama by 80%, the core of the show would have been interesting.
The Star Wars movies are trash, but the series range from solid to good. Aside from that Acolyte thing.

 

[BennyBlanco]

They both stink but I voted Star Wars because the stakes were so much higher

 

[Exede]

I voted Star Trek cause well holy shit is it bad, they even.... somehow made Strange New Worlds bad.

Disney SW had such a fantastic start with Rogue One and it went hard down hill with the sequels.
BUT animated Star Wars is still great and Andor was some of the best SW since ever.

 

[Zacfoldor]

Bro, I'm sorry, It's Nu-Trek.

I agree Picard S3 was good, but it is the example that proves the rule. Everything else sucks.

 

[Hemingwayoffbase]

I'm actually going to say Disney Star Wars is worse, and here's why:

Star Wars was very reliant on the original characters. Luke Skywalker IS Star Wars. And they ruined him. Han Solo died like a punk after being a ln absentee father. Carrie Fisher died. There are no more chances for a Leia story. The "universe" of Star Wars has been irreparably harmed.

Star Trek, however, still has classic characters for sure, but it's more flexible overall. You can still make a new good crew and "right the ship" so to speak. Nu-Trek is absolute garbage, but if handled properly going forward, it can just be a bad blip on the otherwise amazing radar.

Star Wars… well…

It's dead, Jim.

 

[MazingerDUDE]

Just in case you didn't know, Picard S3 was well received by the fans.

 

[Minsc]

Star Wars has Mando S1 and S2, and Andor.

Star Trek has nothing. So Trek is worse.

 

[Barakov]

The Nu-Star Wars Trilogy was bad. The TV shows have been hit and miss(the acolyte being the biggest miss) but it seems like Nu-Trek is on another level of awful.

Just in case you didn't know, Picard S3 was well received by the fans.

Good to see it ended well.

 

[bender]

I voted Star Trek because it was once good.

 

[Catphish]

As a fan of both, and completely fucking flabbergasted at the state of both, I'm going to say:

They are both equally wet, runny, shit, and a pox upon both their houses.

(But I voted for Star Trek because Star Wars was never really good outside of the OT, if I'm being honest).

 

[Durin]

Star Wars at least had 1st season of the Mandalorian and Andor.

Nu-Trek has been consistently fucking trash, barring Season 3 of Picard where they gave up handing the series over to someone who actually gives a shit about the IP. Starfleet Academy couldn't have been more of a painful attempt to appeal to zoomers, while being consistently cringe theater-kid millennial writing slop.

Never gonna get back the days of Next Generation, Deep Space 9 and Voyager.

 

[gameburke]

Star Trek died the last episode of Enterprise. Discovery is so painful.

 

[Cumulus]

Where's the "equally unwatchable" option?

 

[IDKFA]

Just in case you didn't know, Picard S3 was well received by the fans.

I know. Doesn't mean that I'm a fan.

Star Trek TV for me died with Voyager. The last good ST film IMO was First Contact, so for me, Star Trek hasn't hit it out thr park for 25 years.

Star Trek needs to be handed over to somebody who understands the material. Andy Weir showed some interest, but was rejected. I think he could at least write a decent Star Trek film.

Speaking of Weir, he shouldn't have apologised to Alex Kurtzman, because he was right saying modern Trek is shit.

 

[Polaris]

Yes.

 

[Ceallach]

I hate JJ Abrams

 

[phant0m]

100% Nu-Trek

Disney SW does some really annoying things but also has genuinely good stuff too (Rogue One, Mando, Andor).

Nu-trek has been consistently bad

 

[kevboard]

I hate JJ Abrams

his Star Trek movies were the last Star Trek media that wasn't completely unwatchable garbage tho

 

[lastmessiah]

Nu-Trek is dreadful but Trek in general is just more interesting imo. Star Wars is boring, always the same "Hero's Journey" told over and over again.

 

[Ceallach]

his Star Trek movies were the last Star Trek media that wasn't completely unwatchable garbage tho

They were okay scifi slop but they had fuck all to do with Star Trek

 

[Darkmakaimura]

I'm actually going to say Disney Star Wars is worse, and here's why:

Star Wars was very reliant on the original characters. Luke Skywalker IS Star Wars. And they ruined him. Han Solo died like a punk after being a ln absentee father. Carrie Fisher died. There are no more chances for a Leia story. The "universe" of Star Wars has been irreparably harmed.

Star Trek, however, still has classic characters for sure, but it's more flexible overall. You can still make a new good crew and "right the ship" so to speak. Nu-Trek is absolute garbage, but if handled properly going forward, it can just be a bad blip on the otherwise amazing radar.

Star Wars… well…

It's dead, Jim.

I have to disagree with the characters part. KOTOR 1 and 2 had the best villains and I even liked it better than the original trilogy. Yeah.

 

[semiconscious]

what's worse? eating shit with a spoon or with a fork?...

 

[No Banana]

I'd have to argue Star Wars is the worst offender, not just because the range of damage, but because it was literally easy to take the franchise and make better content. Easy.

Even writing a better story than Lucas and more interesting plot points was proven in Empire, and it's so simple - yet every single movie and most of their series have really dropped the ball except for a few exceptions.

I mean, they messed up a Solo movie, they messed up the new Star Wars trilogy movies (the last trilogy is somehow worse than what Lucas did, thx Abrams you dipshit), they messed up a possible reintroduction of Boba Fett (which you can argue is a bad idea, but it could have been done well). Clone Wars, Andor, the Mandalorian are decent.

Passing the Star Trek franchise to someone else is more challenging because you're being given a wet bag of vomit, and that wet bag of vomit is all you have to work with. The compounded problem is the people assigned to it seem very excited by vomit and like adding more vomit to the soggy bag (Starfleet Academy).

Star Wars had some foundation and promise, just needed some competent direction and some better storytellers, and that could have aced it. But nope.

 

[ReBurn]

Trek for me. The Acolyte was pure shit, but it wasn't nearly as in your face retarded as Starfleet Academy.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Nu Trek

At least Disney Star Wars has a couple of stuff I like

 

[The Cockatrice]

Star Trek by a million miles. Star Wars still has Andor and Mandalorian and the ryan goslin one coming. Star Trek has fucking SHIT.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

 

[Itchy.Tasty.]

Trek, without a doubt.

Disney Star Wars at least resembles what SW has always been, even if the outcome quality is still shit.

But Nu-Trek is so fucking far from what Trek used to be that it's both shit and saddening. Gene Rodenberry would be rolling in his grave.

 

[rm082e]

Star Wars was always lame and I never cared about it, so Nu Trek is the greater offender.

 

[Mengy]

I voted Nu-Trek simply because Star Trek is more important to me. I grew up with both Star Wars and Star Trek, but the bastardization of Trek by Paramount and Kurtzman literally infuriates me to the core.