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Invincible Season 4 | Official Trailer
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Puscifer
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Holy shit I had to turn the demon episode off.
The.... Way the..... De.... Mon..... Spoke drove.........me...... Nuts...... 30 minutes..... In..... So..... I..... Had.... To turn.....It off
The joke got old fast especially considering he didn't even speak like that in the first season.
The.... Way the..... De.... Mon..... Spoke drove.........me...... Nuts...... 30 minutes..... In..... So..... I..... Had.... To turn.....It off
The joke got old fast especially considering he didn't even speak like that in the first season.
Revolutionary
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Yeah it's awful, especially considering its bloated Amazon budget. I gave the show a chance when it first came out but the animation quality was distractingly poor throughout the first season, and it seems to have gotten worse somehow.
March Climber
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This thread is going to be 3 pages in, post-season finale, and people are still going to be discussing episode 4 at length (for who knows what reason).
BigBeauford
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Its obviously a bottle episode. Dont think you are missing much.
Puscifer
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Cmon bro, cut the animation team some slack they had to pay Lee Pace a couple mil to stop being an amazing actor and to do voice acting!
Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love Lee Pace - he can get me to watch a movie on name along like Michael B Jordan, Yaaha Abul Mateen, Emily Blunt and Michael Fassbender but cmon man - this show has a serious budgeting problem and it isn't going where it needs to be.
The penthouse fight and train slaughter were very well animated in season 1.
Puscifer
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Speaking of Bottle episodes - you should watch Halt and Catch Fire. It took me 3 watches to realize how few sets they used because it was a passion project. It started off as a pilot so they could get practice but AMC loved the script so much they greenlit an entire show.
Pretty sure the Invincible universe operates on the same logic that makes Saiyans stronger after every battle. Thats the only explanation for the power-scaling.
Thragg was probably genetically engineered for accelerated development from birth so his gains become exponential compared to everyone else. It's like if Allen was constantly punched to near-death and recovered each time since birth.
Thragg was probably genetically engineered for accelerated development from birth so his gains become exponential compared to everyone else. It's like if Allen was constantly punched to near-death and recovered each time since birth.
DrFigs
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Awful episode. It felt like filler. Plus Mark immediately accepting that Satan is a good guy is really dumb.
Esquie
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Just power through it, don't be a cuck. The episodes following it 5, 6, and 7 are all incredible.
Puscifer
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I watched them all but the hell episode was just annoying
deriks
4-Time GIF/Meme God
There's an episode that they addressed those kind of problems
I think it's ok. Doing animation is hard as hell, and they kept the pace of releasing. It has tough spots here and there, but the show still is great
CastorSoze
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First I liked how Negan was beating up Glen again and now we have Megatron as the old emperor while Optimus as the traitor.
There is a lot of inconsistency. Like look at the opening of this episode with all the Viltrumites being killed by wounds we've seen Mark and Nolan survive.
There is a lot of inconsistency. Like look at the opening of this episode with all the Viltrumites being killed by wounds we've seen Mark and Nolan survive.
DrFigs
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I agree. If this is the cost of getting one season a year, then I think it's worth it as a viewer. But I also don't think the animation is awful. I think Baki as an example of where the animation is so bad, the show is sometimes hard to watch. I never feel that way about this show, even though the animation is often unimpressive.
Inconsistency is the hallmark of this show. A vultrumite will take a punch and lose a tooth in one scene, then that same punch will crack a starship in half, then the vultrumite will get casually ripped in half by what seems to be a tenth of the effort from the punch that before just cost a tooth. Or one will have a hair whip dagger that easily cuts flesh, but no one else seems to think that maybe, just maybe, they ought to use knives because gee, punching each other back and forth seems USELESS.
Or the guy with a blaster that shoots bolts that apparently NEVER STOP, so the galaxy is now riddled with unstoppable beams. Or vultrimites can dodge damn near anything shot at them but they sure do seem to get caught blindsided by another person flying in from the side. So do they have super fast reflexes or not? I can only hope that soon Kirkman or whoever is directing this show discovers and becomes obsessed with ju-jitsu, krav maga, thai kickboxing, SPEAR or any kind of martial art that demonstrates how body control and specific attacks might look versus the endless haymakers that constitute 99% of their fighting style.
Anyway, none of this stuff is unique to Invincible, they have just dialed it up to 11 compared to most superhero shows where its just Superman doing this kinda shit.
Zacfoldor
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The hell episode with the preaching about the virtues of athiesm was the worst of the whole show maybe.
That said this has been the best season of the show. It's so good.
The last goddamn episode got a 9 point fucking 9 on imdb and it deserves it. Thragg in the latest episode and Lee Pace....wow this was it. This is elite. ELITE, and one of the best non-anime animated shows ever only eclipsed by batman the animated series.
This show is so, so good. Give me a Techjacket TV show next. You like this you should also watch Foundation.
That said this has been the best season of the show. It's so good.
The last goddamn episode got a 9 point fucking 9 on imdb and it deserves it. Thragg in the latest episode and Lee Pace....wow this was it. This is elite. ELITE, and one of the best non-anime animated shows ever only eclipsed by batman the animated series.
This show is so, so good. Give me a Techjacket TV show next. You like this you should also watch Foundation.
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Zacfoldor
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Reizo Ryuu
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"krypton had its chance.."
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
This shows is devoid of all logic. I watch it because the fight scenes are pretty decent, but my God, the writing is fucking ass lol. Not to mention the massive plot holes. But It's still a true guilty pleasure of mine.
Just one of those shows that are only enjoyable if you switch off your brain and don't think about it too much.
March Climber
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You kind of missed the point of it, neither were about "atheism's virtues". There were two points:
1) He was telling Mark that he should try to be happier on earth with those he loves and cherish those little moments instead of worrying about every little good or bad action he does like some sort of tally system to measure his morality. (This is generally good life advice)
2) He was helping Mark find acceptance when it comes to the unfortunate need of killing someone to save and secure his home (planet). Soldiers and police arguably do the same.
However, I agree with everyone else that the rest of that episode was mostly filler. They should have found a way to incorporate Darkblood's speech to Mark in a more important episode.
On a side note, hopefully if this thread reaches page 3 people aren't ignoring discussing every other episode of this season in favor of just the single filler one.
I thought this finale was a good setup for whatever comes next. It's better than the typical earth invasion fight that has been done 100 times over.
Fbh
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Decent season overall.
Honestly, the show isn't that great but I still have fun watching it.
When it actually focuses on the main conflict with the Viltrumites it's great, but the episodic "threat of the week" chapters can be pretty bland, same as the chapters about Mark moping around.
You could probably cut down all 4 seasons so far into 1 really cool one.
Honestly, the show isn't that great but I still have fun watching it.
When it actually focuses on the main conflict with the Viltrumites it's great, but the episodic "threat of the week" chapters can be pretty bland, same as the chapters about Mark moping around.
You could probably cut down all 4 seasons so far into 1 really cool one.
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It's easy, just make Mark MORE MAD. His power seems to scale directly with his rage. So you KNOW they will have Thragg threaten Eve, his mom, or his brother, probably all three, and that will trigger enough of a rage fueled "fly at you and PUNCH" that it chips Thraggs tooth and the rest can finish him from there. That's basically the auto-script for every encounter, really.
AJUMP23
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Her having an abortion and getting "fat" is such a terrible arc. I think the characters are more interesting if they have the child and grow in the relationship. What makes a man more protective than having a spouse and child.
The level of character assassination that moment was is UNCALCULABLE. So we have a young woman, formerly one that willingly put her life on the line for others over and over, sends her man off to war, not knowing if he will ever return, then she ABORTS the (probably) deity level child she is carrying who A. may be the only remnant of Mark should he die in far off space, B. may be the only Viltrumite left if they ALL die in far off space, and C. is the DIRECT consequence of her actions up to that point? Once again, how do you write a woman....."write a man and take away reason and accountability". Any and all "protector" instincts she had, which seemed strong up to this point, were just shucked away and instead she seems more than happy to heap MORE guilt on to Mark, as if HE was the problem and not this spiteful cunt of a woman.
And WORSE, she gets her powers back, possibly the ONLY even semi-excusable reason to abort the kid, and she STILL just fucks off, does nothing, and ADMITS IT ALL to Mark like she is some sort of victim. It's not like there was some earth shattering calamity coming and she needed to make an impossible choice. It's not like she didn't bother to ring up ANY of the super-high tech folk she knows and say "hey, I got a vultrumite kid growing here, can you help with my bills or maybe adopt it if I'm just too alone to give a shit?".
So Eve can go die in a fire for all I care anymore. The only POSSIBLE redemption for this bastard of a plot arc is if Mr. all knowing G-man snuck the embryo away and is growing it himself.
Fbh
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I liked how they introduced him as some ultimate threat. And from what I understand there's still a lot of story to cover, so still plenty of time for Mark to get stronger.
Besides, like a lot of superhero stuff the power levels seems pretty inconsistent in this. Characters seem to get powered up/down depending on what the story needs.
March Climber
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What you're wanting is more in the DCAU/DC TV route.
I like that Invincible takes a more off-kilter approach to these things that people normally don't see hero shows take.
BigBeauford
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The abortion scene was terribad. After the magnificence of Episode 7, they threw a bucket of ice water right on top of our boners. The only credit I can give is it is comic accurate. And my god has mark become a mopey, insufferable twat. I actually preferred Oliver's screen time.
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AJUMP23
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I don't know what the string of letters at the end of your sentence mean.
March Climber
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D.C. Animated Universe (DCAU)
D.C. Television (DCTV)
(One of) my issues with Invincible is that, given the MASSIVE and WANTON death and destruction, we don't really see the population reacting. Cities burn and hundreds get eviscerated, but there isn't really the kind of extinction level response you'd think. I guess it's kinda like a commentary on the apathy towards country civil wars/ethnic cleansing/socialist dictatorships now that murder millions of their own to a "oh hum it's -over there-" attitude, but when its AMERICA getting fucked over by these threats, I just don't see people being so blasé about it. Regular superhero shows have the hero AVERT the massacre, for the most part at least, but in Invincible we have a 9/11 type event EVERY EPISODE but folks are just "wow, sure do hope some magic hero comes saves us!" instead of devoting every resource towards a response that, given the power level of heros in the show, seems like Earth along could defeat viltrumites if it really wanted to just with sheer numbers.
AJUMP23
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I just don't want imaginary characters to have abortions. I think that is a dumb story line.
March Climber
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To be fair to the show, they hinted at this.
The city area where he fought the other Invincibles, then Conquest, then the dinosaur, is almost completely a ghost town now due to constant battle and devastating damage. This is shown when his brother takes a job for Titan to fight the dragon guy and there's literally no one around but just the combatants.
Maybe they should have emphasized this more for the viewing audience, but having a city as big as New York or something be completely empty during a sunny afternoon is unsettling. They didn't spend enough time showing how unsettling and downright sad that can be.
March Climber
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I half-expect it of Invincible because the universe itself is fucked.
That's why I said what you're wanting is more traditional DC-coded.
If it makes you feel any better, at least it wasn't the type of forced abortion that The Boys would do, where a woman would just be punched through her parts while they show everything spill out.
I believe that's called homicide, not a "forced abortion"
Might vary depending on where you live though.
I feel like there was a whole story of Eve dealing with this, maybe another special episode or it was in the comic. But the way they laid it out on the show was atrocious and I don't think Mark could/would move past it and forgive her. I also feel like 'real' Eve would have taken it to her grave, not spilt it as soon as he showed back up.