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Guru3d: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D2 Dual Edition processor review

AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D2 Benchmarks: The Best Desktop Performance For Linux Developers, Creators Review - Phoronix

www.phoronix.com

AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D2 review: more cache, minor gains, less value | Club386

Dual 3D V-Cache is finally here, but only a select few users will benefit from this feature, as our Ryzen 9 9950X3D2 benchmarks demonstrate.

www.club386.com

Test du Ryzen 9 9950X3D2 Dual Edition : le prix de l'excellence ?

Longtemps fantasmé, le premier Ryzen à 2 CCDs dotés de 3D V-Cache est enfin là. Est-ce que cela change véritablement la donne ?

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[Insane Metal]

Well that's disappointing

 

[winjer]

Well that's disappointing

For gaming, it's completely useless.
It seems that it's only good for some development software and AI tools. Such as easyWave, PostgreSQL, Incompact3D, OpenFOAM CFD, OpenVINO, GNU Octave, SPECFEM3D, OpenRadioss, RELION, Whisper.cpp

 

[YCoCg]

OverHeat throwing down money anyway because that 1fps matters

 

[Skifi28]

 

[OverHeat]

OverHeat throwing down money anyway because that 1fps matters

 

[winjer]

Are you still buying it?

 

[OverHeat]

Are you still buying it?

Unfortunately yes

 

[winjer]

Unfortunately yes

Please tell me that you are using some programs that will benefit from all that cache and extra cost.

 

[Trogdor1123]

For gaming, it's completely useless.
It seems that it's only good for some development software and AI tools. Such as easyWave, PostgreSQL, Incompact3D, OpenFOAM CFD, OpenVINO, GNU Octave, SPECFEM3D, OpenRadioss, RELION, Whisper.cpp

Haven't they been saying that?

 

[Tomorrow]

for gaming it's useless then (if you have a 9950X3D like me).

saved myself £850.

i'll wait for the "10950X3D2"

 

[OverHeat]

Please tell me that you are using some programs that will benefit from all that cache and extra cost.

Yes I am

 

[Kazdi]

Exactly as expected.

 

[Tomorrow]

Yes I am

what do you use your PC for outside gaming where this CPU will be a meaningful upgrade? not trying to catch you out i am genuinely curious

 

[Celcius]

Post in thread 'AMD announces Ryzen 9 9950X3D2 Dual Edition'

Apr 21, 2026

Oof at the power consumption and the price and the non-existent gaming performance uplift.

• Celcius

It's a hard pass for me. Bring on Zen 6.

 

[Tomorrow]

that "tech jesus" video is fucking useless. lost a lot of respect for gamernexus.

 

[OverHeat]

what do you use your PC for outside gaming where this CPU will be a meaningful upgrade? not trying to catch you out i am genuinely curious

I can't really talk about it but it's in the AI field and automation.

 

[Tomorrow]

I can't really talk about it but it's in the AI field and automation.

ok but you have a 5090?

why not a Pro 6000 or something better if it's AI? what does going from a 9950X3D to X3D2 do?

again...i am serious i thought CPU performance wasn't really important for AI stuff.

 

[OverHeat]

ok but you have a 5090?

why not a Pro 6000 or something better if it's AI? what does going from a 9950X3D to X3D2 do?

again...i am serious i thought CPU performance wasn't really important for AI stuff.

Because the PRO 6000 is a little too expensive for my taste lol

 

[Tomorrow]

Because the PRO 6000 is a little too expensive for my taste lol

nah i get it but i don't get how this CPU upgrade is worth the price if you're in AI.

i do some AI stuff myself and a Pro 6000 is way out of my league as much as i'd like one. i can't think of anything where upgrading my CPU from a 9950X3D would help in AI.

i think i'd get more use out of spending £800+ on more RAM to go up from 64GB to 96-128GB.

anyway, i'd be upset with you if you didn't always buy the best cpu/gpu. keep at it

 

[Fess]

For gaming, it's completely useless.
It seems that it's only good for some development software and AI tools. Such as easyWave, PostgreSQL, Incompact3D, OpenFOAM CFD, OpenVINO, GNU Octave, SPECFEM3D, OpenRadioss, RELION, Whisper.cpp

Isn't it the same for the 9950X3D?
I have it and I'm not sure I could spot the difference in gaming from the 7800X3D I also have.

 

[LavitzSlambert]

If you had a 7950X3D or 9950X3D and were experiencing stutters/performance drops due to the non-3D CCD, and didn't want to deal with Process Lasso - this one's for you. I suppose it's possible it may help somewhat in the future longevity as well, simply having 16 cores total and all with the 3D cache - sort of a Zen 6 preview.

 

[Draugoth]

Like I've said in previous thread, this is a completely pointless upgrade if you already own the 9950X3D

It's basically the 14900KS of AMD, you won't gain anything else for gaming besides your CPU burning

 

[Rentahamster]

If you had a 7950X3D or 9950X3D and were experiencing stutters/performance drops due to the non-3D CCD, and didn't want to deal with Process Lasso - this one's for you. I suppose it's possible it may help somewhat in the future longevity as well, simply having 16 cores total and all with the 3D cache - sort of a Zen 6 preview.

I didn't watch any reviews yet, but theoretically isn't it still possible to get stutters on the x3d2 if the game process switches between the two chiplets? Or did they solve that already.

 

[dgrdsv]

As expected, very much pointless for gaming right now - no game needs more than 8 fast cores at this point in time.
However there may be some benefits which need further research than HUB (lol) is capable of. Like the lack of performance drops due to improper OS thread scheduling.

 

[LavitzSlambert]

I didn't watch any reviews yet, but theoretically isn't it still possible to get stutters on the x3d2 if the game process switches between the two chiplets? Or did they solve that already.

My extreme layman's understanding is yes, because CCD transfer overhead is significant compared to other operations. The good news is if your process is placed on the other CCD, there is no longer a difference in processing speed due to cache size differences. Not sure if it will be different with 3D cache on both, since this chip is the first of its kind, but I would think you should be able to look at results from the 9950x (it has 2 CCDs) to see if cross-CCD is a problem.

And yes, supposedly it improved with newer drivers, but not all games benefitted and there are still inherent issues and support concerns for the future.

 

[KuraiShidosha]

Every time I saw some tool wishing for a dual vcache chip in a gaming forum I would inform them that it would be totally pointless and be met with stupid statements like "you don't know what you're talking about." I would love to see their faces now. Pay up little piggies.

 

[Bry0]

Pointless for gaming as expected. I bet in gaming workloads it still parks the second ccd.

 

[StereoVsn]

Hopefully AM6 or new Intel large cache processors will offer more cores on single CCD.

 

[winjer]

Hopefully AM6 or new Intel large cache processors will offer more cores on single CCD.

12 cores per ccd.

 

[Schnauzer]

If you had a 7950X3D or 9950X3D and were experiencing stutters/performance drops due to the non-3D CCD, and didn't want to deal with Process Lasso - this one's for you. I suppose it's possible it may help somewhat in the future longevity as well, simply having 16 cores total and all with the 3D cache - sort of a Zen 6 preview.

This won't really help. The added cross CCD latency is to much. By the time it matters you will be better off with next gens 12 core 3d chip on one ccd.

 

[Wolzard]

For gaming, it's completely useless.
It seems that it's only good for some development software and AI tools. Such as easyWave, PostgreSQL, Incompact3D, OpenFOAM CFD, OpenVINO, GNU Octave, SPECFEM3D, OpenRadioss, RELION, Whisper.cpp

Not even for that. If you look at the benchmarks, the price doesn't justify the gain.

AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D2 Benchmarks: The Best Desktop Performance For Linux Developers, Creators Review - Phoronix

www.phoronix.com

 

[cartman414]

Melts twice as fast too.

 

[winjer]

 

[Mokus]

There are really no games that could use more than 8 cores?

 

[OverHeat]

Fuck it after all I'm not getting one.

 

[winjer]

Fuck it after all I'm not getting one.

Lisa Su is disappointed with you.

 

[dgrdsv]

Hopefully AM6 or new Intel large cache processors will offer more cores on single CCD.

Zen6 will, and 12C X3D part will likely be a lot better for gaming than this thing.
Intel though seem to be hell bent on putting their useless E-cores in desktop CPUs so they'll have 8P+16E "CCDs" in NVL with a 2CCD config at the top. Prooooobably won't be as good for gaming as a 1CCD 12C Zen6 but we'll see.

 

[Wolzard]

AMD is sweeping the 9950X3D2 under the rug.

No Ryzen 9950X3D2 for TechPowerUp, Gamers Nexus, or ComputerBase

If you've been refreshing our front page today looking for the Ryzen 9 9950X3D2 "Dual Edition" review, I don't have good news for you: we won't be publishing a review, because we had no access to a review sample. AMD typically reaches out to us, offering to be part of the reviews, but not this...

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Cyborg]

Gamer Nexus was right even without full review. What a joke (for gaming)

 

[Celcius]

My local microcenter has 25+ in stock this morning. It will be a pass from me though.

 

[Celcius]

Did anyone on NeoGaf end up getting one of these?

edit: one more review came out

 

[lachesis]

I guess now we know the limitations of CCD's usefulness, at least on current generation?
I'm using 9950x and gaming has been just fine on it. I think I will hold onto the last AM5 cpu gen and upgrade at that point...

 

[OverHeat]

Nobody except me is dumb enough ( i
Did not) to buy one lol

 

[M0G]

Well they said it months ago and it was bang on, that is literally pissing money away if your rig isn't doing something special outside of gaming. I'm so glad I didn't wait for this and just got the 9950X3D. If there 's a 10 series (or whatever) next year that uses the same motherboard that might be the natural progression for a gaming upgrade.

 

[peish]

Gamernexus steve and this steve proved yet again youtubers and their need to make hyperbole videos from nothing burger….delusion and a lust for revenue!

Gamernexus has not retracted claims of amd specifically black listing him. Another blow to his credibility

There is some cockup along amd new PR team that saw many big reviewers not receiving free 9950x3d2 sample, not just hairy boy

 

[winjer]

 

[dgrdsv]

I guess now we know the limitations of CCD's usefulness, at least on current generation?

This has little to do with "CCD usefullness" and much to do with the fact that most games don't scale to more than 16 CPU threads because that's what consoles have.

 

[YeulEmeralda]

CPU has never been a bottleneck- unless you are using something from 10 years ago it doesn't matter.

 

[dgrdsv]

CPU has never been a bottleneck- unless you are using something from 10 years ago it doesn't matter.

Zen1 is from 2018 and it's definitely a bottleneck now.
Same is true for any contemporary Intel quadcore.
Launch version of Zen3 is a bottleneck (many games struggle to run at 60 fps on my 5900X these days due to CPU limitations), less so with X3D SKUs which came a year+ later but still.

What you're saying was 100% true in the days of PS4/XBO where literally any Intel 4C+ CPU was more than enough for 100+ fps, 200+ sometimes even.
Now with the current gen 8C Zen2 consoles this has changed considerably, and you really need to use the most recent CPU gens to not be CPU limited below 60.