you realise labour currently controls the government and could have ended this at any time? the fact they have chosen not to should be your concern. not who created it.
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PlayStation begin rolling out age verification checks
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you realise labour currently controls the government and could have ended this at any time? the fact they have chosen not to should be your concern. not who created it.
willothedog
Member
no they couldn't, to repeal a law/act it has to go through the exact same process as enacting it.
The way it works is they roll out the lazy version like this to get the infrastructure in place and get people to "buy in" because there are way "out" if you want..
then over time they ratchet up the requirements and enforcement, and then make it a crime to provide false information.
textbook government overreach 101
PCS 7009
Member
Draugoth
Gold Member
I can see that happening if they alter the law to allow for any kind of hash to be stored upon Age Verifying. But right now there's a loophole in the law that allows anyone to send stolen or fake ids with near zero chance of being ever being punished (or a video game avatar)
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yes they could.
they control the commons by a large margin, and if they really wanted to they could wrangle enough into the HoL to get it repealed quickly.
pudel
Member
If you pay regulary with creditcard or paypal it would be quite easy to tell already if you are using a fake ID.
That said...why is it not enough to have a credit card or a paypal account? As far as I know its hard for kids to get these. I dont get these extra steps and additional informations they want.
TheHighFlyingBirds
Member
Fucking government and their stupid fucking bullshit.
As I like talking to squad mates on bf6 and using messages to arrange games, I need to do this. Trying to do the mobile phone option as least invasive, however, I just get a connection to server timed out error. Good job Sony.
As I like talking to squad mates on bf6 and using messages to arrange games, I need to do this. Trying to do the mobile phone option as least invasive, however, I just get a connection to server timed out error. Good job Sony.
Draugoth
Gold Member
Theoretically yes, but by law they cannot store any kind of biometric data after verification, which is usually done by a third party company like Persona.
It's a legal loophole that does not allows for Sony to verify if someone is using fake or stolen IDs. If they are - they would be fined.
In other words: Kids and teenagers will just pick leaked Ids from Google Images or their parents ID.
It's so half-assed that there's no explanation for these laws other than spying and surveillance.
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Draugoth
Gold Member
Anyone who did was rattled as 'pedophiles' by digital illiterates.
It's ID verification now, next it will be full suppression of commentary social media.
LostDonkey
Member
Server timed out is all im getting
PlayStaytion
Member
There're bad people everywhere, even inside Nintendo, you don't recognize who they're until shit happens.Not a problem, I will get it done asap, I have no problem with the likes of Sony and Microsoft having my data and photo, after all they want whats best for us, they are our friends
Tams
Member
I genuinely dare not, else PREVENT will have the Starmtroopers break down my door.
FF:Enhanced_Reality
Member
This is fucking bullshit, I've had a PSN account over 20 fucking years.
DAHGAMING
Kentucky Fried Controller
Oh no, I wouldnt give Nintendo my details, there evil, thats why I didnt mention them, just our friends Microsoft and Sony
DEAD ORIGINAL
Member
This should be at Starmer.
FF:Enhanced_Reality
Member
Communist cunt is so compromised it's fucked.
Tams
Member
You do realise they aren't in power anymore, yet these laws are still getting implemented?
He doesn't care what anyone thinks, even his own party!
Dr. Samuel Hayden
Member
Fuck off
FF:Enhanced_Reality
Member
Clearly you don't know how the law works. And it doesn't matter that the conservatives tabled it and got it into legislation, labour are loving abusing it.
Jigsaah
Gold Member
Its spreading. I had 2FA on my Black Desert acct. Hadn't played in a while and needed to recover my acct. These fucks said I needed to provide a photo ID to recover my account. I straight up told them, I understand you guys in Korea might see this as normal, but this is America. We dont do that over here. They responded literally doubling down. Welp, guess my account is gone forever.
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Dioica
Member
This makes me glad I had to switch to pc because of a strain injury in both wrists. At first I couldn't buy shit on Steam because of the age restriction idiocy (I mean I couldn't even view a game like Thank Goodness You're Here on the platform) but I live in the Middle East so switched regions from UK store to Middle East by using my local card, and I can now view everything. The Middle East is now less restrictive than Europe. That's how retarded we have become.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
"F-f-for the kids" is just a pretext. It's horseshit.
They got a taste of totalitarian control during COVID and how people (on the left) were even cheering on that shit, and now they wanna follow the China model.
vodka-bull
Member
Only for pedophiles.
Autistic_Pancake
Member
Europe have always been a land of soyboys and carebears. People getting phone calls from their ISP demanding to stop pirating/torrenting - OR ELSE - I couldn't believe this when I heard such stories, but apparently you can even get a huge fine in some countries if you do that? And those people claim they have "freedom" lol.
Dioica
Member
Sorry, I don't know what you mean. It is also less restrictive for anyone who wants to play normal games, which is what my comment says and means.
Sadly I don't think many of us claim we have freedom any more, especially in the uk.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Nah, that's not how it works. The act passed into law 9 months before labour won the election.
They couldn't just rip up the legislation that they had been voting against for years. That sort of thing needs to pass through parliament in a legal manner. What would have to have happened would be that labour would have had to campaign to roll the act back and have a new vote and that could take years of hard work, and was not a manifesto promise.
You could imagine the optics. Labour get into power and immediately start working on things they didn't campaign on, choosing to undo acts put in place to protect children. That would be bad enough, the conservative press would leap to say how disgusting it was that heroic Tory MPs and Daily Mail columnists had put the interests of children first and fought for years to get this act over the line, only for Labour to roll it back.
But then the very next time a crime was committed that this act could, under any circumstance whatsoever, have possibly gone some way to preventing, the press and MPs would have gone full tilt at it.
"How does the prime minister feel knowing his party rolled back protections that would have prevented the vile actions of [criminal] which led to [bad thing] happening to [victim]? Shouldn't he [or whichever MP had to lead the charge in the campaign to undo the legislation] resign?"
And that would have rolled on and on and on. It could genuinely have been one of the defining images of the Starmer administration.
So, despite the act being campaigned for by Conservative MPs, voted against by Labour MPs, and passed during the Conservative administration, Labour couldn't realistically just undo it once they came into power the following year.
We're stuck with it.
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Radical_3d
Member
I made my PSN account the first day it was available online back in 2006 or 2007. That's my verification.
Putonahappyface
Gold Member
Wouldn't accept a selfie I.D or mobile number, but accepted my driving licence straight off the bat! Coincidence I think not.
Baemono
Gold Member
From experience, companies don't take into consideration "logic" sometimes.
Like when my joycons drifted in late-2017, I had to prove the console was still under warranty, despite being released worlwide several months ago, not even a full year.
Magister
Member
I read a few articles that stated that this will be global. Also, their partner has already been breached once with millions of IDs leaked. They can get fucked. I don't use chat or voice, so I don't give a shit. If they won't allow me to purchase M rated games, I would be fucking furious. Thank god Steam is still untouched in my country.
These checks for everything will be either fucking useless or they may bring back good old IRC chats.
These checks for everything will be either fucking useless or they may bring back good old IRC chats.
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Tobimacoss
Member
This will likely become global if EU or U.S. passes something similar.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
EU is talking about making an app where you have to verify yourself when going on the internet to protect you from adult sites while watching your every move on the internet.
JimmyRustler
Member
You'll only be able to avoid it for so long. It will be coming everywhere eventually.
JimmyRustler
Member
In an age where people have regularly have 6+ hours screen time, anonymity is doomed to disappear.
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Topher
Identifies as young
Sent them the dick pic you sent me
Bojji
Member
You know what freedom looks like? When you can criticize people in power and no one will do anything about it.
And you can do that in vast majority of western countries, age veryfication or not. Now, UK and Germany are started going into very bad direction with this shit - but that doesn't mean rest of the countries will emulatate it.
ME is free of LGBT mafia, that's for sure (it has the best version of SM2), but when it comes to "free" - try criticizing people in power and see how it will work for you lol.
They will only register logins if that's the case.
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Peroroncino
Member
thanks uk
Topher
Identifies as young
That happens in the US all the time. Don't think I've heard of any fines (maybe in some states), but ISPs will threaten to shut down your internet access if you continue to pirate. Freedom isn't the ability to break the law and not face consequences regardless. Piracy isn't what I would call the best example of "freedom" in action.
duck_sauce
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