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Spanish girl, 25, to be euthanized…

Sad story all around.
I'm in favor of euthanasia in cases of terminal illness, heavy degenerative illnesses, heavy injury and things like that. But in cases of mental health like this I think it's definitely a very slippery slope.
If there wasn't an alternative that roughly 800000 people per year resort to - ie suicide, then this would be more concerning. At least commiting suicide this way doesn't put other people's lives at risk, or massively traumatize other people (train drivers, passersby etc).
 
Sad story all around.
I'm in favor of euthanasia in cases of terminal illness, heavy degenerative illnesses, heavy injury and things like that. But in cases of mental health like this I think it's definitely a very slippery slope.
Well she paralyzed herself already trying to commit suicide.

This is someone who really wants to die who managed to remove their own ability to kill themselves in an attempt.
 
If there wasn't an alternative that roughly 800000 people per year resort to - ie suicide, then this would be more concerning. At least commiting suicide this way doesn't put other people's lives at risk, or massively traumatize other people (train drivers, passersby etc).

I can agree with some of that, but ultimately I think if someone is suicidal the way I want the state to react to it is "let me help you get better" not "let me help you get through with it".
Of course, as mentioned, there are instances where you really just can't make it get better (terminal illness, degenerative diseases, etc), which is when I'm ok with euthanasia.

Then again, I don't really know enough about the case and mental health in general.
From her story it seems like she had been struggling with mental health and suicidal tendencies even before the rape and her injury. I guess if you have someone who has just lost the will to live, who has been getting years of proper mental health care (I don't know if she did) and still has decided that they want to die, then maybe that also falls under "you can't make it get better"
 
It's her life,she can choose whatever she wants. The rapist should be shot and dumped in the landfill.
Slow dip into a wood chipper is the best I can do for people like that.
The Government failed her. It scares me because we have people within her our own legal system that deal in the same decision making or lack thereof.
 
I've been following the Canadian euthanasia stuff for a while. The numbers they have going over there and the reasons for which they do it are absolutely insane.
It's pretty bad
You can do walk in, same day. They don't care
100 k gone already, and guess the demographics? Caucasian 95%
 
One of the saddest stories I've seen in a while. Poor girl 🕊 Heartbreaking. May she find peace in heaven far from this awful dump of a planet. And find these disgusting rapists and run them over with a bulldozer. So sick and fed up with these degenerate scumbags. Goddamn my blood boils from shit like this.
 
A girl i know from highschool became a quadriplegic at 25. She had everything going for her. Beautiful girl. Yoga instructor.

She just posted on facebook the other day "Today concludes my period of suffering." Everyone understands. Her life became pain.

I'm not sure why Americans have a hard time grasping this.
I think because Americans, being a rational people, would have preferred that this woman gained solace through seeing her rapists swing by their necks until dead such that she then didn't feel so despondent about her life that she tries to end it.

Sadly, euro betacuckism is infecting us as well....

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Let me guess -- her organs are to be donated?

Certain countries seem to be making some bank off these government-approved "euthanizations" (murders). EDIT: I mean, let's be real -- if you are ruled "not in your right mind," you can't make legal decisions, sign a contract, etc. But you sign up to die? That's just f ckin' PEACHY.
Well, look at that. "Too late to be canceled because her organs have been promised to recipients."

Please tell me that's not what this says.

LORD forgive us.

EDIT: I'm not "naive" enough to realize that both sides aren't people with agendas, and I, nor anyone else, knows the full story.

But if you think people/groups aren't making bank off of the organs of the "euthanized," then ...

 
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Well, look at that. "Too late to be canceled because her organs have been promised to recipients."

Please tell me that's not what this says.

LORD forgive us.



Btw, I would be careful about believing what she says. She's the president of a fringe organization called christian lawyers, they're ultra catholics and defenders of the Franco dictatorship and have been known to stuff our already stuffed courts with frivolous lawsuits every time someone says something they don't like. She's likely to consider the whole affair an opportunity for publicity.
 
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I wouldn't mind allowing euthanize for those gang rapers who did this to her. Maybe add some Carolina ghost pepper eye drop and some good dose of non-lethal electricity for a few hours before too.

It's a shame. Hope she will come to senses and realize life is worth living and to fight for, and ultimately change her mind - but understanding the pain and stress, depression... I just feel sorry for her.
Fuck Euthanize. Hang the fuckers without the neck breaking part.
Well, look at that. "Too late to be canceled because her organs have been promised to recipients."

Please tell me that's not what this says.

LORD forgive us.


If this is true then Spain should burn.
 
Epic failure across the board. I can't believe I live in a time where human life has such little value. Used to be when you were suicidal, people wanted to help you feel better and find a reason to live. Now if you feel suicidal, they help you die. Now in some places, you have to opt out of dying. Fucking crazy.
 
This practice is one of the boundaries or lines-in-the-sand that Christian cultural dominance saved us from for so long... life is disposable like that. I feel like even the non-theists are starting to agree with Richard Dawkins recent statements that he's a "cultural Christian" and now feels the loss of the shared values is leading to something infinitely worse.
 
Btw, I would be careful about believing what she says. She's the president of a fringe organization called christian lawyers, they're ultra catholics and defenders of the Franco dictatorship and have been known to stuff our already stuffed courts with frivolous lawsuits every time someone says something they don't like. She's likely to consider the whole affair an opportunity for publicity.
She sound more rational than your current goverment to me. Europeans have become so hateful of Christians and fearful of Muslims that they have surrendered their governments to some truly awful people.
 
Epic failure across the board. I can't believe I live in a time where human life has such little value. Used to be when you were suicidal, people wanted to help you feel better and find a reason to live. Now if you feel suicidal, they help you die. Now in some places, you have to opt out of dying. Fucking crazy.
the problem is that is isn't a failure, the system has been deliberated shaped to be this way.
 
1) She didn't change her mind at the last minute nor is it true that her assisted suicide went ahead because her organs were being "contracted" out. The quote is not from her lawyer. It's from the head of a catholic organization opposed to medical assistance in dying and refers to an alleged and unverified comment made verbally by an unidentified person affiliated with a hospital to her mother, but never confirmed by the mother or any other source. It's basically an unverified rumour and also occurred two years ago - even in the outlandish scenario where organs were reserved at that time, they certainly weren't reserved now.

2) Her case was approved because of chronic pain and suffering, which have nothing to do with videos showing her struggle to walk with assistance. She was left with no bowel or bladder control, reliant on pain medications, and largely wheelchair dependent. She was residing at a long term care facility at the age of 25.

3) She was not in the states custody when the gang rape occurred. She had left the group home three years prior.

4) There is no evidence or even accusation that her attackers were migrants.

5) She has never identified her attackers in the gang rape incident. She detailed being sexually abused throughout her life in a TV interview but never filed any police complaint in any of the incidents. They were never "let go".

6) Canada has been brought up a few times here. Canada does not allow medical assistance in dying for seasonal affective disorder or other mental illnesses at this time.
 
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6) Canada has been brought up a few times here. Canada does not allow medical assistance in dying for seasonal affective disorder or other mental illnesses at this time.
SAD won't be on the paperwork. But it seems seasonally depressed people can just make claims about severe chronic pain et al to clear the euthanasia screening, as in this alleged case:

 
1) She didn't change her mind at the last minute nor is it true that her assisted suicide went ahead because her organs were being "contracted" out. The quote is not from her lawyer. It's from the head of a catholic organization opposed to medical assistance in dying and refers to an alleged and unverified comment made verbally by an unidentified person affiliated with a hospital to her mother, but never confirmed by the mother or any other source. It's basically an unverified rumour and also occurred two years ago - even in the outlandish scenario where organs were reserved at that time, they certainly weren't reserved now.

2) Her case was approved because of chronic pain and suffering, which have nothing to do with videos showing her struggle to walk with assistance. She was left with no bowel or bladder control, reliant on pain medications, and largely wheelchair dependent. She was residing at a long term care facility at the age of 25.

3) She was not in the states custody when the gang rape occurred. She had left the group home three years prior.

4) There is no evidence or even accusation that her attackers were migrants.

5) She has never identified her attackers in the gang rape incident. She detailed being sexually abused throughout her life in a TV interview but never filed any police complaint in any of the incidents. They were never "let go".

6) Canada has been brought up a few times here. Canada does not allow medical assistance in dying for seasonal affective disorder or other mental illnesses at this time.
Suprise, the ragebait click farmer sites who lie about everything lied about this too, making some ad bucks over a young woman dying.
 
I'm more upset about the things done to her than her wanting to end her life. If she's done with life, she's done.
It's very good of a lot of people here that they think she should be helped and support, but apparently she doesn't want any of that. You'll do her more harm than good.

The real issue here for me are that the rapists aren't dead, in jail, or dropped in the middle of a desert somewhere.
 
Those minors should be arrested and placed on death row immediately. I don't care if they are minors. They clearly knew what they were doing. Death sentence would be the only justice.
 
She sound more rational than your current goverment to me. Europeans have become so hateful of Christians and fearful of Muslims that they have surrendered their governments to some truly awful people.

Trusting people just because you like what they say is a dangerous game.

She's been fighting on the courts every time symbols of the dictatorship have been attempted to be removed from the streets. She's also been filling a massive amount of slap suits to attempt to coerce people to not criticize the Catholic Church in public.

She's an a enemy of freedom.
 
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@Evillore creating pure threads of darkness, living up to your name, holy shit. Anyway you look at this, it's just messed up and I can't even phantom the answer.
 
I wouldn't consider myself religious these days, but after reading that story earlier, I found myself saying a few prayers for that young lady 🙏
 
1) She didn't change her mind at the last minute nor is it true that her assisted suicide went ahead because her organs were being "contracted" out. The quote is not from her lawyer. It's from the head of a catholic organization opposed to medical assistance in dying and refers to an alleged and unverified comment made verbally by an unidentified person affiliated with a hospital to her mother, but never confirmed by the mother or any other source. It's basically an unverified rumour and also occurred two years ago - even in the outlandish scenario where organs were reserved at that time, they certainly weren't reserved now.

2) Her case was approved because of chronic pain and suffering, which have nothing to do with videos showing her struggle to walk with assistance. She was left with no bowel or bladder control, reliant on pain medications, and largely wheelchair dependent. She was residing at a long term care facility at the age of 25.

3) She was not in the states custody when the gang rape occurred. She had left the group home three years prior.

4) There is no evidence or even accusation that her attackers were migrants.

5) She has never identified her attackers in the gang rape incident. She detailed being sexually abused throughout her life in a TV interview but never filed any police complaint in any of the incidents. They were never "let go".

6) Canada has been brought up a few times here. Canada does not allow medical assistance in dying for seasonal affective disorder or other mental illnesses at this time.
Thank you for being the voice of reason.
 
There are plenty of people who say "if I ever get like that, I'd rather die," (myself included) but the law in most countries forces them to be kept alive at all costs.

I've seen a close relative suffer and be kept alive in a terrible condition for years after her mind had given up, and she had deteriorated to the point where she could no longer speak to ask us to kill her. Which would have resulted in somebody being charged with murder.

That's the cruel and inhumane thing. This girl's wishes should be respected regardless of the fact that she's very young.
 
I think euthanasia should be an option for late stage cancer patients with 0% chances of recovery and constant horrific pain - they will die anyway but who wants to die in such horrible way?

A woman has diminished quality of life and is in constant pain and will not recover. She too will die anyway.

How do you rationalise that one case is allowed to choose their death but the other must wait until the bitter end?
 
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This case disturbed me as father to a young daughter so I needed to hunt out some facts, this is what Grok is telling me which is more believable than the narrative being pushed online.

The identities of the three men involved in the gang rape (or multiple sexual assault) of Noelia Castillo Ramos in 2022 have not been publicly disclosed in reliable news reports. No names, ages, or specific backgrounds (including nationality or migrant status) appear in mainstream coverage or official statements.

Key details from reporting
In her final TV interview (Antena 3's Y Ahora Sonsoles), Noelia described the incident as an assault by "three boys/guys at the same time" ("tres chicos a la vez"), which occurred 3–4 days before her suicide attempt on October 4, 2022. She stated she did not report it to the police. She also mentioned prior separate incidents: abuse by an ex-boyfriend and an attempted assault by two others in a nightclub.

She was over 18 at the time of the 2022 assault (she turned 22 that year), so it did not occur while she was a minor in state care. Official records from Catalonia's child protection authorities confirm she left the protection system voluntarily at age 18 (around 2019), with no registered assaults during her time in centers (2015–2019).

Have they been charged?
No public information indicates that the three individuals have been identified, arrested, charged, or convicted for this specific incident.
Multiple reports explicitly note that there are no known convictions or even confirmed detentions related to the gang assault Noelia described. Some coverage highlights this as part of the broader tragedy—she reportedly died without seeing justice for that trauma.

Claims circulating on social media (e.g., that the attackers were "menas"—unaccompanied foreign minors—and that the assault happened inside a state care facility) have been debunked or heavily questioned by fact-checkers. These narratives often stem from interpretations by groups like Abogados Cristianos (supporting her father's legal efforts), but they rely on unverified family accounts rather than court documents or forensic reports. Noelia herself did not mention the location, nationality, or "menas" in her interview.

Context on the legal handling
Spanish authorities and courts focused heavily on Noelia's euthanasia request and capacity to decide, rather than revisiting the 2022 assault in public detail during the later proceedings. Because she did not file a formal police complaint at the time, there appears to have been no active criminal investigation that led to public prosecutions.
This lack of accountability has been criticized by some commentators as another layer of systemic failure in her story, alongside earlier mental health support and protection issues.
If new details emerge (the case remains sensitive and developments could still occur), they would likely appear in Spanish media like El País, Antena 3, or El Español. However, as of the latest available reporting (shortly after her death on March 26, 2026), the perpetrators remain unidentified to the public.
This remains a deeply tragic case involving trauma, mental health, and end-of-life decisions. If you're seeking support related to sexual assault, trauma, or suicide, resources like those from the International Association for Suicide Prevention (iasp.info) or local Spanish services (e.g., 016 helpline for gender violence) are available. Let me know if you have more specific aspects of the case you'd like clarified.
 
My first thought was that. I mean, gang-rapping somebody and completely break them mentally is one of the most vile thing you can do to a human being. The emotional part of me feels like these scumbags deserve nothing short of the chair.

Then I read they were all minors... :messenger_weary: Jesus f***n christ what do you even do in a situation like this?

Horrible, horrible situation all around.
There is no salvation for kids that gang rape a woman and indirectly(?) caused her death, throw them in the woodchipper like you would do with adults.
 
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Actually I've read that euthanise yourself to not being a bother to your family and a burden to your country is increasingly popular in the Netherlands. But alas, I'd euthanise myself too if I lived in Northern Europe. /jk
Being from the NL, this is true and its usually not as black and white as one usually thinks and i suspect this case falls in the same grey area. But since the onus of the story focuses more on the gang rape and less about the background story, its not withstanding to say the things that are said. It is wrong though, because it is a superficial assessment.

There is a case to be made as to why so many young people opt to unalive (interesting naming) themselves. Youngsters are increasingly more depressed, why is that? One can correlate social media with it, which includes platforms such as these. The news, id wager, is also a factor.

What drives the news? Negative clickbait. Rage posts. That applies here too. The most popular threads and posts are negative or ridicule. So people talk about it (the news) in person. If your entire social convo is regurgiating and discussing negative news, im sure that contributes mentally.

This is without saying the mental toll of the gang rape, or the fact that people have had underlying mental issues for years prior to such decisions.

In other words: it is likely far more complex than the news or most of the reactions make it sound like. Because superficial negativity sells.

"It's the internet. Deal with it."
 
Euthanasia is a justified option for people in extreme medical conditions that cause great pain and distress to the person, and has no cure.
But this is not one of them. Though it does show how far the Spanish society has fallen, to the point of allowing criminals to roam the streets, gang rape a young woman, do nothing to convict the criminals, do not properly support the victim and let her fall into a deep depression that leads her to attempt suicide.
When a society, it's institutions, Courts, Judges, Politicians, and Police abandon a rape victim, of course she loses all hope of having a normal life.
It is immoral and unethical for a developed country to allow these things to happen.
 
Farming fact hunting out to AI is going to end up making things even worse.
TBF what wasn't pasted in was links to the relevant information and yes whilst I would never take the output of AI as gospel it does a better job at collating information than me simply goggling everything
 
TBF what wasn't pasted in was links to the relevant information and yes whilst I would never take the output of AI as gospel it does a better job at collating information than me simply goggling everything
I didn't mean to call you out, I think you seem like a good dude, for the record.

I just roll my eyes when I see AI searches being held up as a paragon of truth - I worry that too many people are putting too much faith into such a fallible system and that at some point we'll end up knowing it got it wrong, but not being able to convince anyone.
 
This case disturbed me as father to a young daughter so I needed to hunt out some facts, this is what Grok is telling me which is more believable than the narrative being pushed online.

The identities of the three men involved in the gang rape (or multiple sexual assault) of Noelia Castillo Ramos in 2022 have not been publicly disclosed in reliable news reports. No names, ages, or specific backgrounds (including nationality or migrant status) appear in mainstream coverage or official statements.

Key details from reporting
In her final TV interview (Antena 3's Y Ahora Sonsoles), Noelia described the incident as an assault by "three boys/guys at the same time" ("tres chicos a la vez"), which occurred 3–4 days before her suicide attempt on October 4, 2022. She stated she did not report it to the police. She also mentioned prior separate incidents: abuse by an ex-boyfriend and an attempted assault by two others in a nightclub.

She was over 18 at the time of the 2022 assault (she turned 22 that year), so it did not occur while she was a minor in state care. Official records from Catalonia's child protection authorities confirm she left the protection system voluntarily at age 18 (around 2019), with no registered assaults during her time in centers (2015–2019).

Have they been charged?
No public information indicates that the three individuals have been identified, arrested, charged, or convicted for this specific incident.
Multiple reports explicitly note that there are no known convictions or even confirmed detentions related to the gang assault Noelia described. Some coverage highlights this as part of the broader tragedy—she reportedly died without seeing justice for that trauma.

Claims circulating on social media (e.g., that the attackers were "menas"—unaccompanied foreign minors—and that the assault happened inside a state care facility) have been debunked or heavily questioned by fact-checkers. These narratives often stem from interpretations by groups like Abogados Cristianos (supporting her father's legal efforts), but they rely on unverified family accounts rather than court documents or forensic reports. Noelia herself did not mention the location, nationality, or "menas" in her interview.

Context on the legal handling
Spanish authorities and courts focused heavily on Noelia's euthanasia request and capacity to decide, rather than revisiting the 2022 assault in public detail during the later proceedings. Because she did not file a formal police complaint at the time, there appears to have been no active criminal investigation that led to public prosecutions.
This lack of accountability has been criticized by some commentators as another layer of systemic failure in her story, alongside earlier mental health support and protection issues.
If new details emerge (the case remains sensitive and developments could still occur), they would likely appear in Spanish media like El País, Antena 3, or El Español. However, as of the latest available reporting (shortly after her death on March 26, 2026), the perpetrators remain unidentified to the public.
This remains a deeply tragic case involving trauma, mental health, and end-of-life decisions. If you're seeking support related to sexual assault, trauma, or suicide, resources like those from the International Association for Suicide Prevention (iasp.info) or local Spanish services (e.g., 016 helpline for gender violence) are available. Let me know if you have more specific aspects of the case you'd like clarified.
Holy shit, as usual with these stories the facts destroy the narrative. She was a mentally disturbed individual making up false allegations, I hope she finally found peace.

It's incredible how quickly people forgot that women lie so easily regarding sexual assault because the current narrative is to blame migrants for everything.
 
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Im from Spain and this is absolute Madness.

Nobody talks about the rapist, in thie shitty country full of karens and a goverment that support Venezuela and cuba the criminals are protected.
 
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My first thought was that. I mean, gang-rapping somebody and completely break them mentally is one of the most vile thing you can do to a human being. The emotional part of me feels like these scumbags deserve nothing short of the chair.

Then I read they were all minors... :messenger_weary: Jesus f***n christ what do you even do in a situation like this?

Horrible, horrible situation all around.
Smaller chair
 


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These were the last words that her grandmother said to Noelia: "I love you, my girl; someday we will be together again."
 
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