"I feel like I wasted the first 100 hours"
It's Sunday my guy lol. I'm sure they'll have reviews out this week.
"I feel like I wasted the first 100 hours"
I remember in Destiny 1, Bungie introduced a change riiiiight before launch, where purple engrams didn't drop purple loot anymore. White, Green, and Blue engrams still dropped appropriate colour loot - but not purple. Instead, purple engrams were changed to have a veeeery small chance to drop purple loot. Why? Because Bungie realised players would burn through their content in about a week, so they decided to lengthen the grind enormously at the last minute. They'd hoped it would let the game last longer. Seems like Bungie still doing Bungie.
I remember that. I thought it was exotic engrams having a chance to drop purple.
I think that was in place, too, but that was a separate change. The "purple's dropping blues" really got traction when the first loot cave was found. People farmed huge quantities of purples and realised "these almost always drop blues?". Classic Bungie
And Bungie needs a reliable way of making their content last. Making the map accessible for 48 hours, filling it with RNG, and pretending it's an "event" is just classic Bungie. And once the player counts drop, they'll actually implement things properly.
I never played Destiny games (except barely dabbling with D2 when it was F2P but noped out fast when I saw random online gamers popping up in my game), but that's the nature of GAAS.
I'm sure their internal plans go something like "players will spend the week grinding for keys and do cryo runs on weekends". That's just not how any of this works though.
I think a bunch of the backlash is simply due to expectations. Everyone knows an extraction shooter is different than a traditional shooter with 8 different MP modes and 15 maps to choose from. But I think gamers avoided it and some gamers who already bought it are trending down is simply due to expectations.
At this point... The game is what it is. The changes that they will have to implement ASAP are just to stop the bleeding. The money and time required to transform this game into somehting truly great that transcends a hero shooter in the extraction sub-genre will not be worth it, especially when making another 4 maps, 4 shells and 4 new enemies, alongside the other things required (new weapons, loot, puzzles) won't be cheap either.
As many as you want. They don't stack though. So someone could technically bring a gold backpack(40 slots) and fill it with nothing but self revives.
They needed an idea for a sci fi shooter and couldnt replicate a Halo or Destiny look or else it'd eat into Destiny sales.
Yeah... Don't count on a campaign. The rest will only work to stop the bleeding
^^ This. Nuff said.
Bungie tends to make things a little too grindy. They probably need to stop doing that.
D3 wouldn't have solved anything. Destiny 2 just needs more content and Bungie needs to take more risks narratively. They play it too safe story wise. Once they establish a formula, they stick with it for a looong time, when they should do that and experiment with gameplay loops, change it up slightly every now and then, to keep it fresh. That is what they need to do instead of give us D3 where we will end up having the same issues later on. D3 will simply delay it, not fix it.
Yup. If they made D3 4 years ago, the last 4 years of D2 would have been D3. Bungie currently has no idea how to move Destiny forward. I'd rather they figure that out before they make D3, otherwise the exact same problems will persist
Yup, I feel the exact same way which is why I don't get why some think D3 will auto "magically" fix everything lol.
Problem isn't the game, is what it represents. There's an assortment of people with different reasons to hate this and want it to fail. From general dislike towards bungie - as there are no shortage of reasons to hate bungie - to disgruntled Destiny players or...
...general distaste towards live service games in the modern industry, or in some cases Sony's push towards live service games specifically.
Only the ones too far gone will follow this route. There's still hope for some others, at the very least the ones still making traditional games will be less likely to try and invest in live service. All let go talent will also go on to join these other studios, or fund their own.
Pretty much. Failed GAAS studios are easy to cut.
Amen
No doubt. At least with ARC, it was a big first mover for extraction (Hunt and Tarkov were never hyped up like ARC, and Tarkov isnt even out for consoles), it has a better art style, and I never got the sense watching videos it was a super twitchy game with endless bot enemies and MP enemies roaming around. Watch Marathon videos and it's a faster paced extraction game with gunfights with bots and enemies like it's COD or Titanfall first person shootouts.
They butchered the game to hell. The original game's first two stories red war and Foresaken are gone, planets are gone nothing is consistent. They basically took a game which was built for a few years and have reworked it so many times it doesn't resemble anything. You can still go back to d1 and play from the beginning to rise of iron and most of the game is intact.
Remember when early in D1, players found a random cave that would endlessly spawn enemies so they would sit at the entrance and just shoot the constant spawns for loot?
Hopefully another clueless soul and not a willfully ignorant one
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About time my guy
Self revives are a non issue.
That might be fine for singles and maybe duo's but even knowing from BR playing with a team who suppress makes resurrection pretty trivial. Again though, thats what Marathon is focused on.
Its purpose is as I said - prevent people from just camping like assholes far off with snipers when you try to exfil so they take 0 risk to just melt you. The self revive means you could crawl to cover and revive to prevent a sniper wipe.
And let's say you take that sniper out, who is sitting on a pile of self revives? What would they do?
It creates the opportunity now to rush them. Again they recover with 15-20% HP and will need to heal shields and HP to even be able to fight. Instead he's going to have people on his ass ASAP. The wind up takes like 8-10 seconds to go off.
