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We have gone batshit insanes price vs performance in the GPU space.
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Leonidas
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5070 is the best if you want the most RT perf/$
When I buy GPUs now I mostly look at the RT performance since any of these GPUs can handle raster admirably.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
They were going for sub $600 around black friday. That was a very good deal.
I still wouldn't buy an AMD GPU though. But I also use my GPU for things other than gaming.
Gamezone
Gold Member
Cloud gaming sucks.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
The issue is 12GB which is really unfortunate and you just know Nvidia did that to funnel people to more expensive 5070Ti.
But if you are at 1440p for newer tittles, that probably should be alright.
Fahdis
Member
Lmao, you have no idea how it works or how good it is, opinion rejected. I also have a 3070 Ti but it pales to the Cloud service at Premium Tier.
smbu2000
Member
I've been playing through RE Requiem on my laptop and at 1440P it is using over 12GB of VRAM. (Averages 13GB)
12GB in 2026 is really pushing it.
vodka-bull
Member
Yes I think that's the future for me as well (if I ever fully switch to PC gaming). Hoe many months of GFN can you buy for the price of one graphics card?
Mr Moose
Gold Member
What the fuck is wrong with Nvidia? Imagine having the same or less VRAM than a 3060, 9060XT and a 5060Ti (the good ones).
Leonidas
Member
I'm not worried about 12 GB right now since I game at 1440p with DLSS in demanding games and I upgrade GPUs every generation. I haven't had an issue and that includes me playing some path traced games.
I'd rather have 12 GB today with faster than 9070 XT RT, than 16 GB for a card that performs worse than a 5070 in RT today, and I'm not paying $1000 for a 5070 Ti...
If next-gen consoles really have 32 GB of RAM, then both 12 and 16 GB GPUs could become obsolete at around the same time... I expect next-gen GPUs to get a VRAM bump, would have felt bad paying extra today on what is potentially the last generation where 16 GB is at a premium while not even really getting to take advantage of the extra RAM (since I upgrade every gen and don't foresee 12 GB being an issue till next-gen GPUs arrive).
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BloodFree
Member
Fahdis
Member
Premium at 80 Tier Card, Free Upgrades: 5 Years = $1000 for $200 sub/yearly; you can do the math from here.
Performance: 5 Years = $500 for $100 sub/yearly.
Founders: Unga Bunga savings capped at $5 every month for Performance Tier forever so $60 a year means 5 Years = $300. $10 off Premium.
You can do monthly too but its double the price. Buying bulk is the way.
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DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
I've seriously been tempted to replace my 5090 with a 9070XT and pocket the difference.
vodka-bull
Member
Now even if I were a pirate, the 2000€ you need for a beefy PC in addition to the 1000€ for GFN are a lot of games you can buy off steam. And I already own a Steam Deck which is completely fine for GFN.
Esit: just checked the prices for the 5090. I assumed it was somewhere around 2000€. Turns out I was mistaken, it's around 4500€.
Yeah, definitely GFN lol.
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Leonidas
Member
Wouldn't you feel bad to lose to a 5070 in RT/path tracing performance?
ByWatterson
Member
P5S Pro owners rn
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
We were sounding the alarm on gaf prior to Black Friday. The 5060 Ti 16GB o bought for $300 new now goes for $569.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Yeah but it would feel good to have a couple thousand dollars
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Radical_3d
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Dirk Benedict
Gold Member
Up in the rafters. We sip on 32gb of VRAM with our eyes closed.
Zathalus
Member
I was partially tempted as well. I can literally sell my 5090, buy a 9070 XT, and still turn a profit. Basically a free GPU.
But I'll keep the 5090. Who knows what fresh hell the future holds when it comes to GPU pricing.
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CrustyBritches
Gold Member
Oh hell no do not sell any high-end GPU these days. Fuck, I wouldn't even sell the cheap old shit. I almost free to a good home my old RX 470s and old Ryzen CPU's, now I'm hanging onto them for dear life. This is the fucking apocalypse, brother.
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Magic Carpet
Gold Member
What the Playstation player doesn't know won't hurt them.P5S Pro owners rn
OLED_Gamer
Member
Generally, a 5070 has 80% of the RT performance of a 9070xt. Cheapest 5070 is $899 CAD while cheapest 9070xt is $949. $50 for a 9070xt seems like a no-brainer? Obviously region specific tho.
Longer- term though, that 16GB of VRAM will age a lot better.
Would be a smart play if you would be happy with the 9070xt.
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Hawk The Slayer
Member
It's completely retarded and evil in this timeline with the shitty price. 2,000 dollars for a 5090, 1000 for a 5080, and 750 for a 5070ti are already crazy expensive and now they wanna get people used to a even higher price. Just fucked stupid and fuck all those scumbags.
I've been tempted a few times too but I'll wait till closer to the new cards/RDNA5
Hawk The Slayer
Member
I'll say 5070ti or 5060ti 16gb version is the best.
In reality neither one of them are good too. Just that they are at least better compared to the ratio of 5070, 5080, and 5090 in price and performance ratio.
You're going to want 16gb of vram.
Resident Evil Requiem already consumes up to around 15gb of vram on 1440p on my end with a 5070ti 9800xd3 with Pathtracing, DLAA, and framegen x 2. And this is just the beginning of more and more demanding games.
But like I said none of the cards and their price performance ratio are great these days. It was really only great during the 1000 series and okay during the 3000 series.
Leonidas
Member
From HUB 9070 XT review.
Techpowerup skewed results since they didn't include path tracing in 9070 XT review and included some titles with more raster focus w/ light RT (with weak RT RDNA3 topping one of the charts). 5070 typically wins in path tracing.
For only $50 difference yes the 9070 XT is worth considering.
None of the mid-range GPU this gen will age well longer term.
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Leonidas
Member
5070 has better perf/$ than any of those even if they were all at MSRP.
You're using too high settings. If 5070 couldn't run RE:R with Path Tracing well at realistic settings, HUB would have already uploaded a video showing the 12 GB card falling apart.
Why are you using DLAA + path tracing at the same time?
You can't even enable path tracing with 9070 XT in RE:R so the 9070 XT loses in this game by default.
5070 is beating the 5060 Ti 16 GB by ~40% in resolutions it was designed for and at playable frame rates. That's a win for 5070.
No one should be using path tracing with 4K DLSS Quality Max Settings and 2X FG. Even a 5080 is struggling with only 59 FPS (with the feel of 29.5 FPS
)I would use 1440p Balanced (or Performance) with optimized settings and I think it would be an enjoyable experience...
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Guardian Monkey
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I mean I would go down to balanced /performance and take off frame gen even first. Going with DLAA with frame gen seems worse since you are ~doubling a lower framerate5070 has better perf/$ than any of those even if they were all at MSRP.
You're using too high settings. If 5070 couldn't run RE:R with Path Tracing well HUB would have already uploaded a video showing 12 GB falling apart.
You can't even enable path tracing with 9070 XT in RE:R so the 9070 XT loses in this game by default.
TPU showed 5070 falling apart when using unrealistic 4K Quality (16GB 5060 winning but they're both unplayable at 4K Max DLSS Q + FGx2). 5070 12 GB beating 5060 Ti 16 GB. That is not a win for 16 GB as they were both unplayable
5070 is beating the 5060 Ti by ~40% in resolutions it was designed for and at playable frame rates.
No one should be using 4K DLSS Quality Max Settings and 2X FG. Even a 5080 is struggling with only 59 FPS (with the feel of 29.5 FPS
I would use 1440p Balanced (or Performance) with optimized settings and I think it would be an enjoyable experience...
Leonidas
Member
Yeah, enabling DLAA + path tracing seems like an odd choice to me.
I bet my 265K + 5070 would have a higher framerate than his 5070 Ti + 9800X3D since I would use sensible settings (i.e balanced/performance).
Hawk The Slayer
Member
5070 is definitely not as good as a bang for buck as the 5070ti lol.5070 has better perf/$ than any of those even if they were all at MSRP.
You're using too high settings. If 5070 couldn't run RE:R with Path Tracing well at realistic settings, HUB would have already uploaded a video showing the 12 GB card falling apart. Why are you using DLAA and path tracing at the same time?
You can't even enable path tracing with 9070 XT in RE:R so the 9070 XT loses in this game by default.
TPU showed 5070 falling apart when using unrealistic 4K Quality (16GB 5060 winning but they're both unplayable at 4K Max DLSS Q + FGx2). That is not a win for 16 GB as they were both unplayable
5070 is beating the 5060 Ti by ~40% in resolutions it was designed for and at playable frame rates.
No one should be using path tracing with 4K DLSS Quality Max Settings and 2X FG. Even a 5080 is struggling with only 59 FPS (with the feel of 29.5 FPS
I would use 1440p Balanced (or Performance) with optimized settings and I think it would be an enjoyable experience...
5070 is already at a expensive 600 dollars so for 150 dollars more and you not only get 4gb of extra vram which is pretty important especially for the future but the card itself is already stronger than a regular 5070.
Wait PT DLAA with framegen is bad? It works flawlessly on my end with the latest hot fix driver. 595.76
I went with PT DLSS quality without framegen before but switch to PT DLAA with framegen x2 since it looks a bit better. Both settings still have high fps so I just stick with PT DLAA framegen x2.
Hawk The Slayer
Member
PT DLAA framegen x2 is very smooth for me so it's not worth it to gain some fps if it makes the game look not as great since the fps is already great on my end.
Leonidas
Member
5070 MSRP = 550. 5070 Ti MSRP = 750
5070 Ti is 36% more expensive. 5070 Ti would have to be 36% faster to be better bang for buck.
5070 Ti is only 23-28% faster. Raster-RT.
And we all know what prices look like today, its more like $1000 vs. $650 today. 5070 Ti today is over 50% more expensive.
At MSRP its close enough where yeah the extra 4 GB and extra performance is worth the extra $200, but not at the price difference these cards have typically gone for...
Its not that its bad, its just that I could get better performance on my system using more mainstream components, by using Balanced. I am usually very pleased with the way DLSS Balanced looks at 1440p.
My 265K + 5070 with DLSS balanced can beat 9800X3D + 5070 Ti with DLAA...
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Esppiral
Member
Yes the biggest problem with the 5070 is the meagre 12 GB of Vram, you can be playing perfectly fine ram up the texture quality a bit and the game starts to stutter, run at sub 20 FPS or straight up crash. The GPU is quite powerful but hampered by anemic VRAm
So you have to lower the resolution or texture quality in order to be able to play, a shame because it is quite capable as a gpu
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Puscifer
Member
I said last year I was noticing spikes in PT heavy games at 4K that was pushing 16GB nearly to it's limitations. They needed to go 20GB, hell even 18 for the 4080/5080 would've been beneficial.
Hawk The Slayer
Member
12GB of VRAM will be the new 8GB of VRAM when more next gen comes.