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[Spooky Scary Skeleton]

This industry is ham-fisted with same, old AAA trope, copy-pastes, souls-like slops and open-worlds with barely any content, people just can't cope with this type of game coming out soon. Their brain just can't accept that type of this game is even possible and immediately thinks it's a scam or absolutely not possible unless the dev was backed by major first party like Sony.

It's a pretty sad state of video game industry, actually.

 

[Idleyes]

My 'but why' was to the second. Where's the nostalgic value in digitally pre-ordering a game? I could see a midnight pickup at gamestop or something, but a digital pre-order? Are those the good old days? Or are you talking about a physical pickup?

The way I see what @nemiroff said is the nostalgia isn't in the digital checkout screen. It's in the anticipation. The countdown. The shared hype. The feeling that something big is about to drop. Midnight launches were just one form of that. Digital pre-orders are the modern version.

And if the game turns out to be trash and becomes a meme factory? We all find out at the same time. That becomes part of the shared experience too. Refund it, hop on GAF, pop our shit, laugh about it.

Personally I don't see anything wrong with watching content creators play it first. Some of us just prefer to experience that shit ourselves instead of getting fed through someone else's commentary. When you don't know what's coming, it hits harder (much funnier in the majority of cases - at least to me).

 

[Catphish]

The way I see what @nemiroff said is the nostalgia isn't in the digital checkout screen. It's in the anticipation. The countdown. The shared hype. The feeling that something big is about to drop. Midnight launches were just one form of that. Digital pre-orders are the modern version.

And if the game turns out to be trash and becomes a meme factory? We all find out at the same time. That becomes part of the shared experience too. Refund it, hop on GAF, pop our shit, laugh about it.

Personally I don't see anything wrong with watching content creators play it first. Some of us just prefer to experience that shit ourselves instead of getting fed through someone else's commentary. When you don't know what's coming, it hits harder (much funnier in the majority of cases - at least to me).

I guess I can understand that. I've just been burned so many times by hype that I find no joy in that process anymore.

 

[Roman Empire]

This one will be for GymWolf

 

[Idleyes]

I guess I can understand that. I've just been burned so many times by hype that I find no joy in that process anymore.

I respect that. But I honestly think the bigger loss for you wasn't the money, it was the fun getting drained out of the experience, even when the game turns out to be trash. And I have a feeling that says more about how we treat each other as gamers than it does about the refund policy. I've never really regretted a purchase for two reasons:

1. I don't spend money I'm going to miss.
2. Even when a game is shit, I get entertainment out of bashing it. If I paid for it, I've earned the right to critique it.

Now if I got a refund? Different story. I wouldn't full throttle roast the devs in that case. I already did by not giving them my money.

 

[GymWolf]

I'm definitely trying this move on the first women warrior i fight

 

[Giallo Corsa]

I'm definitely trying this move on the first warrior i fight

 

[GymWolf]

Ho detto guerriero donna, furbone.

 

[Giallo Corsa]

Ho detto guerriero donna, furbone.

Just kidding my VERY MANLY broski

On a more serious note now, I still want to believe but...i just don't know - then again, people were saying the same things about BM Wukong, Stellar Blade, Atomic heart etc - games which were considered "fake"/too good to be true but in the end, not only did they turn out to be real games but actually good...

Still, even if it turns out to be good, I'm afraid that it'll suffer from the same symptoms of an Ubisoft open world game with 17184673181 points of interest, collectibles, meaningless "side quests" etc etc and frankly, I can't do those type of games anymore (just like I didn't buy the new Ghost of Yotei).

This will live or die based on how fun the combat is 'cause I'm not expecting anything great from the story being an Asian game (and especially coming from a company that used to do MMOs).

IF it proves to be good I'll be there day1 though, I'd rather spend my hard earned money on something new than the usual Resident evil sequel...

 

[GymWolf]

Just kidding my VERY MANLY broski

On a more serious note now, I still want to believe but...i just don't know - then again, people were saying the same things about BM Wukong, Stellar Blade, Atomic heart etc - games which were considered "fake"/too good to be true but in the end, not only did they turn out to be real games but actually good...

Still, even if it turns out to be good, I'm afraid that it'll suffer from the same symptoms of an Ubisoft open world game with 17184673181 points of interest, collectibles, meaningless "side quests" etc etc and frankly, I can't do those type of games anymore (just like I didn't buy the new Ghost of Yotei).

This will live or die based on how fun the combat is 'cause I'm not expecting anything great from the story being an Asian game (and especially coming from a company that used to do MMOs).

IF it proves to be good I'll be there day1 though, I'd rather spend my hard earned money on something new than the usual Resident evil sequel...

There are female troll enemies so you can try the move in the gif on them.

Still in doubt after this news?

 

[Giallo Corsa]

There are female troll enemies so you can try the move in the gif on them.

Still in doubt after this news?

Combat seems OK brother, it's all the rest I'm worried of like :

- game world/immersion (whether it feels alive/lived in/not an empty husk)

- game flow

- game mechanics not feeling tacked on "just 'cause" (and there seems to be about dozens of them)

- story, side quests etc (I still have PTSD from final fantasy 16's generic, soulless, MMO-like sidequests fetch quests)

I really hope this is closer to something like the Witcher 3 (but with good combat) than say, every other open world game out there.

 

[Idleyes]

The review industry really fucked shit up. Lol

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

game world/immersion (whether it feels alive/lived in/not an empty husk)

From everything they have shown this is a safe bet. And in the interviews they seem very aware of the bad tropes of modern open worlds (Ubisoft template) and didn't go in that direction. Lot of nice stuff to discover without markers and so on. More like Zelda or Elden Ring in that department, though narratively heavier than those.

Certainly it will be better than Horizon as an open world, that's a given.

 

[Giallo Corsa]

From everything they have shown this is a safe bet. And in the interviews they seem very aware of the bad tropes of modern open worlds (Ubisoft template) and didn't go in that direction. Lot of nice stuff to discover without markers and so on. More like Zelda or Elden Ring in that department, though narratively heavier than those.

Certainly it will be better than Horizon as an open world, that's a given.

I really, really hope so Angry...

I just don't have any more the will nor the patience to go through empty, 100 hours+ open world games that offer absolutely nothing new - last one I tried was ghosts of Tsushima a few years back and...after all the hype it received I was expecting something good, what I got instead was the typical ubislop open world template...


Open world games have to have "that" X-factor nowadays for me to play them - be it due to a good, fully realized, immersive and atmospheric world and story, good exploration etc etc.

Examples :
- RDR2, while having terrible, laggy controls and antiquated mission design, It featured one of the most believable if not the most believable open world out there and great story.

- Days Gone, while mechanically and technically lesser than something like TLOU2, the story and atmosphere were so good (to me) that I powered through it even though the gameplay wasn't anything new or special.

- The Witcher 3 , while having terrible combat, the writing, story, side quests, game world and atmosphere were brilliant.

Again, I really hope this actually turns out to be good.

 

[GymWolf]

Combat seems OK brother, it's all the rest I'm worried of like :

- game world/immersion (whether it feels alive/lived in/not an empty husk)

- game flow

- game mechanics not feeling tacked on "just 'cause" (and there seems to be about dozens of them)

- story, side quests etc (I still have PTSD from final fantasy 16's generic, soulless, MMO-like sidequests fetch quests)

I really hope this is closer to something like the Witcher 3 (but with good combat) than say, every other open world game out there.

I hear you but i decided to have faith, i've been hyped for games that looked 1\10 as good as crimson.

I don't think it's gonna be close to w3, that one was a narrative focused game with bad\serviceable gameplay, this looks like the opposite, a gameplay centric game with probably a bad\serviceable story.
One thing i'm sure of, is that at least the writing is not gonna be eyerolling woke like most modern games.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Today a Spanish leaker account posted some closed doors impressions and they are all blown away. Far more mechanics and scale than what's shown in the trailers and fantastic gameplay. Impressions embargo lifted on 4th of March.

 

[Roman Empire]

Today a Spanish leaker account posted some closed doors impressions and they are all blown away. Far more mechanics and scale than what's shown in the trailers and fantastic gameplay. Impressions embargo lifted on 4th of March.

March will be a long month. I need this.

 

[Idleyes]

My goal is to park myself right before the final boss, 100% absolutely everything while I wait for GTA6 to drop, then beat the last fight and immediately jump ship.

 

[GymWolf]

The crimson and the desert: horse drift

 

[Idleyes]

Yawl gonna have to make fun of my monkey ass if this flops because I'm hyped!!

 

[Disciple of MSSP]

I've seen some rumors that there are ships that have tech to hunt for Sea Searpents. If this is true this game will already be goated for me.

 

[I wasn't selling any]

What are the chances of this game running well enough on the Steam Deck?

 

[Disciple of MSSP]

What are the chances of this game running well enough on the Steam Deck?

Use steam link or moonlight if you have a PC and it'd be fine. Not sure about native though.

 

[Abysse]

 

[Disciple of MSSP]

All 3 sound great.

 

[Slothbeingg]

I just found out there is first person mode in the game. That's really cool even though we can't see the weapon when attack.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Yawl gonna have to make fun of my monkey ass if this flops because I'm hyped!!

I already went through this with Dragon's Dogma 2. I'm not near as hyped as I was for that game but still, if this one proves to be another half-baked mess then I'll just assume I'm a total clown lol.

I just want a cool adventure game with good combat. It's not that much to ask for, right?

 

[Last Hearth]

I've seen some rumors that there are ships that have tech to hunt for Sea Searpents. If this is true this game will already be goated for me.

The rumors are probably based on those being in BDO, and the horse drift thing is in BDO as well, in BDO you can breed horses to improve their stock, and eventually if you breed a high level horse there is a chance the next breeding can produce a winged horse. Hopefully winged horses are in this game too.

 

[Astray]

My brother just asked me about this game and he doesn't follow gaming forums or Twitter at all, so awareness of this game might have reached the normies too.

 

[Disciple of MSSP]

The rumors are probably based on those being in BDO, and the horse drift thing is in BDO as well, in BDO you can breed horses to improve their stock, and eventually if you breed a high level horse there is a chance the next breeding can produce a winged horse. Hopefully winged horses are in this game too.

That is fucking unbelievable. The simulation aspects of this game are most exciting to me, so I hope that's too.

There's a reddit post of a guy who recent met a worker from Pearl Abyss. He hinted at an underworld and 40% or more of the features haven't been revealed. Huge grain of salt, but I hope.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

There's a reddit post of a guy who recent met a worker from Pearl Abyss. He hinted at an underworld and 40% or more of the features haven't been revealed. Huge grain of salt, but I hope.

Reliable people who have already played it confirm this.

 

[Disciple of MSSP]

Reliable people who have already played it confirm this.

Have you heard anything reliable about the boats and hunting sea creatures?

 

[NormalGamer]

I'm getting nervous that there haven't been any babes revealed yet. It's Korean so there's going to be babes...right?

 

[TintoConCasera]

I'm getting nervous that there haven't been any babes revealed yet. It's Korean so there's going to be babes...right?

I saw a wizard shop-keeper. She looked cute, way prettier imo than the female playable character whose face is kinda weird imo.

 

[Amish Prince]

I saw a wizard shop-keeper. She looked cute, way prettier imo than the female playable character whose face is kinda weird imo.

The red witch is mine. I called dibs, and I'll take Damiane too, since you don't like her face. More for me.

 

[March Climber]

After:

Wukong
Harry potterhead
Exp33
Wuchang
And some others


People still think that a studio making their first big game is necessarily a bad thing.

An easy analogy for others would be to compare it to music artists.

Like think about how many music artists out there people know, where they were hungrier to make it big for their first few projects, so they knew the music had to be really good and hit on streaming/radio for it to standout on it's own.

It's why I like the more ambitious indie and AA titles. They are trying to claw their way to the top, achieve their vision as good as possible, and it shows in the game's quality.

 

[GymWolf]

I saw a wizard shop-keeper. She looked cute, way prettier imo than the female playable character whose face is kinda weird imo.

Thank god i'm not the only one seeing that...

 

[GymWolf]

The red witch is mine. I called dibs, and I'll take Damiane too, since you don't like her face. More for me.

I'll take a bullet for the team and keep the mage that gives kliff the dark wings occupied until you people save the reign

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Have you heard anything reliable about the boats and hunting sea creatures?

No. They couldnt go into specifics, only that there are many things that haven't been shown yet and the massive scope, for the amount of stuff going on in the world.

 

[saintjules]

I saw a wizard shop-keeper. She looked cute, way prettier imo than the female playable character whose face is kinda weird imo.

The red witch is mine. I called dibs, and I'll take Damiane too, since you don't like her face. More for me.

Lol these are not real people, why are you talking this way? Is it /s?

 

[Last Hearth]

I'm getting nervous that there haven't been any babes revealed yet. It's Korean so there's going to be babes...right?

No romances in the game.

 

[Clintizzle]

This industry is ham-fisted with same, old AAA trope, copy-pastes, souls-like slops and open-worlds with barely any content, people just can't cope with this type of game coming out soon. Their brain just can't accept that type of this game is even possible and immediately thinks it's a scam or absolutely not possible unless the dev was backed by major first party like Sony.

It's a pretty sad state of video game industry, actually.

Exactly what I was thinking. I've seen the word "overwhelming" used so many times when talking about this game and made me think about how accustomed we have become to an RPG that does the bare minimum.

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

Exactly what I was thinking. I've seen the word "overwhelming" used so many times when talking about this game and made me think about how accustomed we have become to an RPG that does the bare minimum.

It is sad how in the past it seemed like some games would strive to dive deep with systems and now that we have the power to do it, many just skim along the surface very intentionally.

 

[Amish Prince]

Lol these are not real people, why are you talking this way lol. Is it /s?

The CD Deluxe pre-order comes with a real live red witch bud. It's a pretty good deal.

 

[Amish Prince]

She's a certified dime. Absolute smoke show.

 

[NormalGamer]

No romances in the game.

Try and stop me.

 

[geary]

 

[geary]

She's a certified dime. Absolute smoke show.

She's voiced by the VA of Eve from Stellar Blade

 

[Dynasty8]

After:

Wukong
Harry potterhead
Exp33
Wuchang
And some others


People still think that a studio making their first big game is necessarily a bad thing.

And then you have AAA experienced studios splurging out shite like panderman 2, anal wake 2, halo infinite and many many others.

I'd throw Lies of P in there too. Such and incredible game.

 

[Represent.]

Have we seen any footage of this game not running on a high end PC?

Any console footage?

Although, I will likely hold off on this until I buy a PC.. But still I'd like to know how the engine looks/runs on a PS5

I'd throw Lies of P in there too. Such and incredible game.

And Kena, those guys did a great job.