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[Instant_Classic]

To begin, I understand the importance Single Player games have had on the industry and many gamers.

However, the industry is at a point where budgets and resources need to craft these AAA experiences, keep trending up.

Say for example, Sony gives you guys what you want with more AAA single player games on the PS5.

Now what?

People will be demanding that PS6 AAA games scale up, and the demands continue to grow.

Sony bailing out of E3 wasn't due to the internet taking off, and the show no longer being needed.

Sony bailed out because the demands continue to rise, past sustainable levels.

Sony's GaaS initiative is econimically the best move they can make, and it's working.

92 million PS5's sold, and they haven't really had to take risks.

GaaS is a risk, but AAA single player games with their one-time payment model are even riskier...

Heck, most kids born post-2000 are GaaS conditioned and don't understand nor care about single player games.

Companies the size of Sony, must eliminate risk.

Please understand, GAFers.

 

[TommyCronin6969]

Shut the fuck up

 

[Instant_Classic]

Shut the fuck up

Truth hurts, gamers don't understand the business side of gaming.

You do realize, money needs to be made...right?

 

[bitbydeath]

Fuck off, it was GaaS that killed BluePoint.

 

[Nankatsu]

Nice try, Hulst.

 

[Instant_Classic]

Fuck off, it was GaaS that killed BluePoint.

No, it was their pitches not being economically viable that killed BluePoint.

 

[bitbydeath]

No, it was their pitches not being economically viable that killed BluePoint.

Yeah, GaaS.
If they stuck with SP they'd still be around today.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Sony's GaaS initiative econimically the best move they can make, and it's working.

I was going to write something but this isn't even worth discussing. You should follow the advice in post #2.

 

[Senua]

Retard

 

[Coconutt]

Stop shilling for Sherman shulst its disgusting.

 

[Sephimoth]

GaaS seems to be the studio killers at the moment

 

[IntentionalPun]

What drives people to think their posts deserve a new thread vs. just making a post in the thread about a topic?

 

[Moondoggy]

The budgets go up cause they waste money and manage things poorly. You say they're too big a risk, you know what a bigger risk is, derivative live service games in an over-saturated market and games that no one asked for, but Sony seems to have no problem sinking millions into those endeavors. God platform fanboys really will excuse any bad behavior rather than just hold these companies accountable so they improve.

 

[Come On Tars]

I feel single player experiences are a safer bet than multiplayer gaas. Keep your budget and scope under control and you are good. Any new multiplayer experience seems to be in a situation where you almost have to shove another game off the podium.

 

[mopspear]

OP if you bold that much text it takes away from the importance of those words. It's like when becoming a Jedi became easy in Star Wars Galaxies. If everyone is a Jedi, then no one is a Jedi. Their rarity made them special. Just like bold text.

 

[kevboard]

there's literally nothing less risky than making a mid budget single player game.

long term sales, zero upkeep cost

 

[drotahorror]

GaaS seems to be the studio killers at the moment

Firewalk
Bluepoint
Wildlight lol
??? who's next?

 

[hououinkyouma00]

I saw the editing of your post and immediately stopped reading.

 

[vkbest]

Most GAAS are failing and shutting down those studios. GAAS is pure gambling for companies.

 

[Ruz Leon]

 

[Plague Doctor]

One has been a staple in the industry for decades.

One is a corporate gold rush trend that 1 in every 20 succeeds at.

Saying that, both can exist. You don't need to sacrafice one for the other.

And the fucking trend chasing sucks and rarely pans out. SIE needs to be fucking responsible and measured. Not running to the GaaS Station for lottery tickets for the next Fortnite level of success.

 

[Instant_Classic]

Yeah, GaaS.
If they stuck with SP they'd still be around today.

Wrong, a single player game that will likely 5 - 8 years to make and probably not sell well is definitely a good idea.

Sony shut BluePoint down because they were one tick ponies that couldn't adapt.

 

[MiguelItUp]

This is quite a take.

 

[tTHANOSs]

It's called greed.

 

[AJUMP23]

Worst take of the year award.

 

[Danjin44]

 

[March Climber]

You're right...but what if we combined a single player experience with a multiplayer one?

Then...we would justify the full price charge and earn more money instead of less at a discount price or free to play.

...couldn't possibly work.

 

[bender]

Can we just ban users with underscores in their usernames?

 

[bitbydeath]

Wrong, a single player game that will likely 5 - 8 years to make and probably not sell well is definitely a good idea.

Sony shut BluePoint down because they were one tick ponies that couldn't adapt.

That's BS and you know it.
They were doing just fine making SP games.

 

[Fabieter]

Their own studios made one great gaas game the whole generation and that was their longest running franchise. Their strategy was a complete shit show.

 

[PauloRoberto]

Wrong... not releasing games is dangerous, everything else can be salvaged (No Man Sky says hello).

This is not valid for developers drowned in hubris (Firewalk and Wildlight, Im talking abou you!)

 

[DarkShadowXI]

 

[Durin]

Most of their live-service games have been money burning tire fires though.

Rising budgets are not giving me better games, while indies on a show-string budget are giving me better.

Drop budgets, I'm not as a consumer asking them to go up anymore.

 

[ByWatterson]

I mean the fact of the matter is that single player games have always been prestige products or platform draws and Sony will make as many of them as necessary.

And no more.

 

[Fabieter]

Most of their live-service games have been money burning tire fires though.

Rising budgets are not giving me better games, while indies on a show-string budget are giving me better.

Drop budgets, I'm not as a consumer asking them to go up anymore.

Yeah stuff like expedition 33 shamed all of those studios with their 10m budget.

 

[Chuck Berry]

What drives people to think their posts deserve a new thread vs. just making a post in the thread about a topic?

 

[Instant_Classic]

I was going to write something but this isn't even worth discussing. You should follow the advice in post #2.

Don't ever go into business, bro.

You wouldn't survive.

 

[Hero_Select]

Can we just ban users with underscores in their usernames?

 

[keefged4]

 

[Senua]

Don't ever go into business, bro.

You wouldn't survive.

 

[Alexios]

Ok, Geometric-Crusher 2.0. Great anal-ysis as usual. Like multiplayer/gaas studios are making guaranteed bank and don't shut down left and right, lol. Nothing guarantees success, games don't succeed and fail by bullet points to tick off single or multi player as the cause, but the overall end result.

 

[Instant_Classic]

Retard

No, gaming is reaching unstainable levels and the tradional way will leave to failure.

Companies must adapt.

Either you adapt, or perish.

It's simple

 

[bender]

Every war has innocent casualties.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Live service games require significant time invested by the player, how many gamers do you expect to attract with each title if they are already invested into another one? Thats a risk, a big risk and you should ask all the people affected by their own games lack of success in the genre because it has been far from being overwhelming positive in that regard. That is no good for the industry, not at all.

 

[Senua]

No, gaming is reaching unstainable levels and the tradional way will leave to failure.

Companies must adapt.

Either you adapt, or perish.

It's simple

Gaas is the only answer, Lord Hermen?

 

[March Climber]

That's BS and you know it.
They were doing just fine making SP games.

He's also wrong about Bluepoint taking 5-8 years to make anything. One of their strengths was that they already had a blueprint laid out, which meant they could get a game shipped out and polished within 2-3 years max.

All it takes is one google search to look at their release schedule pre-gaas cancellation debacle.

 

[OLED_Gamer]

You have no idea what you are talking about.

And i'll point to Nintendo as proof that solid single player IP is what gets people into your ecosystem wherein you can get 30% of sales of third party titles. Then factor in the online annual subscriptions.

Sony made a terrible bet in GAAS that everyone saw but the MBAs. You can't spin closed studios and the lack of good quality IP the way you can MBA speak a presentation on GAAS market trends.

 

[Instant_Classic]

The budgets go up cause they waste money and manage things poorly. You say they're too big a risk, you know what a bigger risk is, derivative live service games in an over-saturated market and games that no one asked for, but Sony seems to have no problem sinking millions into those endeavors. God platform fanboys really will excuse any bad behavior rather than just hold these companies accountable so they improve.

Sony is attemting to transition to GaaS company, many failures will be had but this part of the learning curve.

Once Sony is comfortable, they will thrive in the GaaS industry as they have DECADES of instituational knowledge over their competitors.

 

[neocycle]

Truth hurts, gamers don't understand the business side of gaming.

You do realize, money needs to be made...right?

I don't care about Sony's profits. I just wanna play games.

 

[GudOlRub]

200$ million SP games vs 200$ million GaaS?
Absolutely.

So invest more wisely, moderately priced singleplayer games are doing better than ever, they just can never become infinite cash cows for decades on end and that's what bothers megacorp executives so much.