captainnapalm
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I might have to watch it just for this joke. He-man stuck behind a pronoun nameplate. This is definitely anti woke. Reminds me of Mr Incredible at the start of Incredibles.
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Masters of The Universe | Official Teaser Trailer
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the game is the only thing I'm looking forward to
efyu_lemonardo
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That's actually a really interesting point. How many boys felt inadequate rather than entertained or even empowered by He-Man? I'd say not many.Time for a new generation of boys to feel inadequate.
DeepEnigma
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this this I saw the trailer and I was like I'm not touching that with 100 ft Pole i hope kb got a good pay day for that
some of those became called hits and had blu-ray releases with tons of extras
Cyberpunkd
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efyu_lemonardo
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What's your take on it? It seems boys are attracted to these characters for what they do. Barbie is mostly passive if I'm not mistaken so that could be the issue.Relevant:
Cyberpunkd
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If you read Barbie's history you will see she was created as a feminist icon to show young girls they can be anyone they wanted, as at that time there were no dolls offered for girls that were not your usual princess / pink stuff. So it's hilarious that what historically was first ever feminist toy for young girls somehow became the opposite in people's minds. Or people could read a bit and educate themselves, but that's too difficult I guess.
He-man followed by Arnold schwarzeneggar and Stallone set me on a path of physical greatness as a kid. No question that every boy wanted to be like them and WORK like them.
That's the difference between boys and girls. Boys don't internalize play, they ASPIRE to it. Girls play in a way that is often a reflection of themselves.
Plus those chunky he-man toys could take ABUSE like no other. Those flimsy Star Wars figures or gi joe had no chance against the half pound of plastic that was a he-man character
efyu_lemonardo
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I can't quite put my finger on it, but this seems relevant to the situation in cinema where a woman hero will be nitpicked by women much more.He-man followed by Arnold schwarzeneggar and Stallone set me on a path of physical greatness as a kid. No question that every boy wanted to be like them and WORK like them.
That's the difference between boys and girls. Boys don't internalize play, they ASPIRE to it. Girls play in a way that is often a reflection of themselves.
Plus those chunky he-man toys could take ABUSE like no other. Those flimsy Star Wars figures or gi joe had no chance against the half pound of plastic that was a he-man character
Men will see a classic hero archetype (be it: Luke Skywalker, Schwarzenegger, the Ninja Turtles etc). and the typical reaction will be much closer to "cool! count me in!". Perhaps that's why you end up with more of these films and lines of toys for boys.
I guess men are easier to entertain?
Cyberpunkd
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Men and women are different and that's fine. When a woman complaints she wants you to listen, not give solutions, whereas guys immediately jump into problem-solving mode.
efyu_lemonardo
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Yeah but then they all want their differing opinions to matter which makes it very difficult to appeal to a mass audience. That's the point. Men, it seems, will more easily fall in line, and support a simple message.
Anyway, this is getting off topic, but I hope this film at least touches on the matter. The trailer makes it look like it might and I'm all for that.
John Marston
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The CGI in that trailer is so overwhelming it all looks almost like an animated movie.
Men/boys see a "better man" and think..."with juat a little work, I can be that guy".
Women/girls see a "better woman" and think...."why can't I have those same advantages, she just got lucky, men are pigs because they prefer her over me, what's wrong with me that I don't look like that despite never setting foot inside a gym or ever pushing away a plate of carbs?"
An attractive, athletic, commanding woman is VERY accepted by men. It's the squat, potato shaped, blue haired shrill harpy we dislike, especially when the script makes them a Mary Sue and throws up all men as boorish doofuses for her to systematically dismantle to the tune of soyboy golf claps.
Insane Metal
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Looks like absolute and utter shit.
efyu_lemonardo
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I don't know if men believe they can easily reach the level of their role models, but I do think there is a "if you can't beat them, join them" mentality, which sometimes results in men forming hierarchical groups more easily, and working together towards a clear goal with less friction. Men value their team's result just as much as (if not more than) their individual gain. Just look at how many sports fans are men.
With women, it sometimes looks like the mentality is "if you can't beat them, undermine them", or "begrudgingly live with them", more so than "actively join forces with them to accomplish something greater together".
I have no idea if any of this is empirically correct, or just anecdotal. But it's an idea that was introduced to me by women colleagues.
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Women are great at collaborating on a project with no stakes, no real chance of failure. Like staging a party or something. You can't really fuck up a party and all the little details are things woman can do naturally.
But as soon as there are real outcomes that matter, especially if lives/money are on the line, then the female collaborative model breaks down and the male hierarchy system pulls ahead, I think.
But back to He-man....fuuuuck these were glorious and I had so many back in the day...
Chittagong
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Disgusting. That cheap shiny golden plastic needs to be forever banished to the"New He-Man" era of absolute shame. The OG Extendor golden plastic is the only real deal.
Well, if they cg off the pants from Teela then it would get another million likes
If there was ever a film to "appeal to the male gaze" it's fucking He-man. Are there ANY girls that have ANY love of this franchise? It's 100000% men who played with these toys 40 damned years ago. This isn't a date film, it should be releasing on Father Day weekend for men and their sons to go see. And godamnit I wanna see some glistening thighs, the swell of a buldging breast, toned abs, clenched buttocks.....and the ladies also in the film should be in leotards
DonkeyPunchJr
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Supposedly Mattel got the idea for She-Ra because they found that lots of girls liked playing with their brothers' He-Man toys. (That's according to the MotU episode of The Toys That Made Us on Netflix, which was ridiculously entertaining BTW)Well, if they cg off the pants from Teela then it would get another million likes
If there was ever a film to "appeal to the male gaze" it's fucking He-man. Are there ANY girls that have ANY love of this franchise? It's 100000% men who played with these toys 40 damned years ago. This isn't a date film, it should be releasing on Father Day weekend for men and their sons to go see. And godamnit I wanna see some glistening thighs, the swell of a buldging breast, toned abs, clenched buttocks.....and the ladies also in the film should be in leotards
Oh well. I'm just glad it's not filled with a bunch of homely overweight lesbians like that new Star Trek series.
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kevboard
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spaghetti westerns slop?
uh,
reminder that this is a spaghetti western, original title Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo:
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falconhoof
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spaghetti westerns slop?
uh,
reminder that this is a spaghetti western:
much of it slop
reminder that this is a spaghetti western (it's not very good)
I saw that as well. Those girls wanted a stand in boy doll because they were incapable of imagining one of their barbies as a boy (even gentalia-less plastic has only 2 genders
I wouldn't take that to mean that girls were interested in the lore, the struggle for control of Greyskull, or imagined they were Teela or the Sorceress.
The MOTU fanbase as it stands currently is kinda like lego and especially stuff like GI Joe and Transformers, it seems DOMINATED by men driven by nostalgia. So the plan, if I were Mattel, would be to draw in those dads and their sons, then spin off those sons with a more kid friendly cartoon and toy line while keeping the men entertained with fun brawny action and a bit of flirty sex appeal at a pg-13 level that will get eye rolls from the wife but not make them mad. "Girl Power" in the modern sense has no place here. Teela, for all her brawler skills, is a character who gets in over her head and captured and rescued. The Sorceress is to be protected. The Queen to be admired and shielded from all the shenanigans. Evil-lyn is the bad girl who gets a bit weak in the knees when He-man is around.
That would be my pitch.
Stitch
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Still better costumes than whatever the fuck this was in the Lundgren filmWell, if they cg off the pants from Teela then it would get another million likes
If there was ever a film to "appeal to the male gaze" it's fucking He-man.
OmegaSupreme
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AJUMP23
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Still better costumes than whatever the fuck this was in the Lundgren film
Costumes are fine. Especially for a movie that ran out of money and could not light the final battle.
MOTU costumes are very hard to translate to live-action as well. The outfit proportions and even the base anatomy (long necks, arms, giant hands, etc) are all over the place. Take a VERY good team to render them into something that looks good in live action, is still recognizable as the OG character, and won't break the budget. I hope they don't go crazy with the CG characters but I'm sure they will.
kevboard
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much of every genre ever conceived is slop.
that's the nature of movies.
most action movies are slop, most horror movies are slop, most romcoms are slop.
there's just as much slop in american westerns as there is in spaghetti westerns. but spaghetti westerns produced arguably the best trilogy of westerns ever.
also other well regarded films that are considered cult classics now, like the original 2 Trinity films, or the original Django.
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falconhoof
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Did you forget the post you replied to?
I said: "Cinema has always been full of cloning existing shit" ... "much of it slop", then I used the example of Italian cinema mainly due to it getting the subgenre title "spaghetti".
In an effort to win you just restarted part of my original point, which was much of every genre ever conceived is slop, which when so ubiquitous becomes defined as the new norm.
We have threads on this forum of people saying shit like "Windows 11 isn't so bad", sure it's packed with privacy invasion, ads, borked updates, but that's just normal now so accept it. We have media and weirdos defending slop like the new Star Trek, a show so retarded it features actual retards as characters "Uuuugh I ate my combadge", "what if I lick this odd blue chemical". Star Trek, once a bastion sci-fi philosophy is now drivel.
DeepEnigma
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kevboard
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the clone in this case has however beaten, or at the very least is head to head with the original. so it's a bad example.
there's literally no other trilogy of westerns as well regarded as the Dollars trilogy.
One upon a Time in the West is another spaghetti western that beat essentially all American counterparts. and quite literally brought us the most recognisable western melody, which anyone knows and instantly associates with the western genre.
spaghetti westerns are not a cheap clone. they doninate the pop culture surrounding westerns.
falconhoof
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THE BEST of them do sure, you're fixed on one point which had barely anything to do with my post. WE ALL KNOW HOW FUCKING GOOD LEONE WAS. Much of spaghetti westerns were slop, much of cinema is slop. slop slop sloppy slop slop. 99.999999% of cinema is not at the level of Leone, I fucking wish it were, but it's not. We've got a list of Oscar nominations this year of mostly forgettable movies that will not be remembered in a few years, not even if they earn billions at the box office.
kevboard
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yes, most of every genre is slop.
I simply disagree with your original post that insinuated spaghetti westerns are a cheap copy, when they are almost the exact opposite.
ultrazilla
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Came across this yesterday! I think it's fucking bad ass!
falconhoof
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low-budget meaning cheap
imitating meaning copy
500 is a very big number of which the great movies from people like Leone make up a tiny amount, therefore: much.
Teela and the Sorceress definitely did not skip leg day
Pretty good interpretation of the classic outfits for a more realistic look as well. Of course you'd need actors in PEAK physical shape to pull them off.
Sadly I think this kind of AI production will eclipse any human made stuff for that nostalgia hit.
Those look pretty good but damn, no one should be wearing pants in the MOTU!! Totally ruins the aesthetics. Loin-cloths, kilts, those spartan style leather strap skirt things, sure, but give me bare thigh or give me DEATH!
archangelmorph
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That was my first thought for the first 20 seconds of the trailer...
Really shows where we are now with this crap.
Film looks like it could be interesting but it's got a lot to prove on that,
Not super convinced by the Gen V actor as He-Man. nowhere near buff enough.
DeepEnigma
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AJUMP23
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He-Man is iconically balls a swaying, but the chicks are all legging'ed up.
Maybe the actress doesn't like her knees.
Miyazaki’s Slave
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Love He-Man.
But...if you are going to change stuff then change it. Tela should LOOK like the daughter of Man At Arms and the Sorceress. Cringer should be hunched down and "cowardly" in all instances where he (or she...fuck) isn't wearing the armor of Battle Cat. Kristen Wiig as Roboto is "a choice".
Props to some of the ships/vehicles that look like the old toys...that's cool I'm down for that.
Leto better bring a good approximation of skeleton's voice or just have Hamill do the VO.
NGL...Alison Brie as Evil-Lyn is amazing (I hope).
Where the FUCK is Orko.
But...if you are going to change stuff then change it. Tela should LOOK like the daughter of Man At Arms and the Sorceress. Cringer should be hunched down and "cowardly" in all instances where he (or she...fuck) isn't wearing the armor of Battle Cat. Kristen Wiig as Roboto is "a choice".
Props to some of the ships/vehicles that look like the old toys...that's cool I'm down for that.
Leto better bring a good approximation of skeleton's voice or just have Hamill do the VO.
NGL...Alison Brie as Evil-Lyn is amazing (I hope).
Where the FUCK is Orko.
DonkeyPunchJr
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Svalr93
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Probably both.
Issue is that men are kinda just taught not to complain if you say that you have body issues and feel inadequate because you saw some hunk of a guy in a movie everyone will just call you a pussy and make fun of you.
Women are taken more seriously and even get socially rewarded for it on the other hand.
I mean look at how many men are insecure about their dick size because of porn, I don't think it's any different really when it comes to their overall physiques.
I think men feeling insecure about their bodies is WAY more common than men will admit.
I don't do bodybuilding anymore but I used to when I was younger and I definitely noticed this a lot, so much substance abuse too men will go to pretty extreme lengths and ruin their health and die young to reach unachievable goals.
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Physique is something you can change, at least to the point where you won't feel embarrassed when Arnie takes his short off because you will understand what he did to get there versus what you are doing. Dick size you can't really change (allegedly) and it's not usually men shaming men about it (so I hear) but WOMEN doing it (the cunts) with the "little dick energy" comments. Same thing they do with height. But you say ONE THING about how they tip the scales and oooooohhhhhh hell here comes the pain
There is a tiny subset of guys going hardcore with PEDs and exercise, compared to the MASSIVE number of women getting boob jobs, facial surgery, implants, injections, etc. There is really no comparison to how much effort women put into to fucking with their bodies for purely cosmetic reasons versus men. It is sad for those guys though, heart issues and sudden death in their 40's.