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[Ar¢tos]

If it was for pets, I kinda could understand.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

Dead AI mother is bad enough, then your kid inherits an AI granny he never knew and starts bonding with it.

People's memories are already fallible as they are.
Soon people will start making AI videos where their kids play with grandparents they never really met, and those kids will grow up believing they actually met their grandparents who were already dead when they were born. It'll be like all those movies when a person's memory is manipulated and fabricated, except people will do it happily and willingly.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

These are things that shouldn't be done. It's the lowest and most inhumane thing I've ever seen.

The magic of photography is capturing the exact moment in life... Not artificially altering it.

Imagine removing a loved one from a photo... It makes me angry to even think about it.

My friend, people have been touching up their pics since the 1850s.
You know how all those dead people looking at you from b&w pics in cemeteries all looked like motherf*cking Hollywood stars? Everyone always wanted to look better than reality in pics. That was the real magic of photography. You speak like photo filtering apps aren't a collective wet dream come to life.

People will do anything to ease the pains of reality. This thing here will be huge.

 

[falconhoof]

People will do anything to ease the pains of reality. This thing here will be huge.

And with each step we take it results in a less happy world.

I don't use social media, but I've seen the photos posted by people, the filters upon filters applied to their faces to the point that they no longer look human. And I can tell the difference between artistic tweaking and slop overhauling from someone who feels so mentally unable to see beauty in their own face that they butcher it with soften filters and bone structure remodeling.

This movement coincides with an increase in anxiety and mental fragility. So whilst these things have lived in the fringes for basically over a century, they haven't been industrialized for the every person until now, all with a league score attached to your performance in the guise of likes and views.

Hiding from reality doesn't ease pain, it makes it fester below the surface.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

Hiding from reality doesn't ease pain, it makes it fester below the surface.

I'm not sure about that at this point, because AI is a tool magnitudes more powerful than anything we've had before.
When AI is good enough - and it's getting there quickly - a lot of people will be able to delude themselves to a degree never seen before.
I mean, there's stories of people who believed they were in a long-distance, online-only relationship with a celebrity, and that was possible through everyday social media. Not a few people will get tremendously attached to their AI dead ones, to the point that they will develop serious mental issues when anything happens that severs their ties with them. And while it lasts, they will be very happy to believe the lie.

 

[falconhoof]

I'm not sure about that at this point, because AI is a tool magnitudes more powerful than anything we've had before.
When AI is good enough - and it's getting there quickly - a lot of people will be able to delude themselves to a degree never seen before.
I mean, there's stories of people who believed they were in a long-distance, online-only relationship with a celebrity, and that was possible through everyday social media. Not a few people will get tremendously attached to their AI dead ones, to the point that they will develop serious mental issues when anything happens that severs their ties with them. And while it lasts, they will be very happy to believe the lie.

I think these delusions might be able to go on perpetually with people so they never truly face reality, as long as they can find a way to keep on paying or accept the ads thrown at them, which I think people will surprisingly accept a lot with a shrunk and "That's just the way it is" response.

The net result is a neutered population that isn't critically thinking or acting. Not solving hard problems or even facing up to them. Too busy getting dopamine hits from a virtual Brad Pitt in a hospital bed who's just so thankful that he can connect to you, Mabel, 58, single, two cats, top star rating on Candy Crush.

 

[DKehoe]

If it was for pets, I kinda could understand.

 

[Embearded]

In general i am open to all kinds of ideas, but this is too much.
People need to grieve and move on, not stay attached to the diseased loved ones on their phones. Society already disfunctions enough with social media and dating apps. This is not healthy and i hope EU takes measures against it asap.

 

[Power Pro]

Dead AI mother is bad enough, then your kid inherits an AI granny he never knew and starts bonding with it.

The other shitty aspect of all this is, even IF you got beyond the morbid nature of the entire thing and said "i'm okay with this..." there's the other aspect that all of the conversations and information you share with this thing is just being fed into a big corporations coffers of information of your personal and private life, even worse then what we have now.

 

[xrnzaaas]

Fucking disgusting, having REAL family photos and videos should be enough. They are robbing people of grieving and learning how to eventually move on with your life.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I'm going contrary, I think this is a great idea. Not everyone is going to use it or care, but some might. I might even do it.

My parents are well into their 80s and can drop dead any moment. If I could make some AI versions of them it might be nice. Our fam was never big into family pics aside from some holiday pics here and there, so it'd be nice to have more to it than that. I dont think our fam ever did any recordings of anyone either. So it would be nice to see some family in motion even if faked.

 

[John Marston]

An important part of grieving is learning to let go (While still remembering the good times).

That shit just throws a wrench into everything.

 

[falconhoof]

I'm trying to focus on other work related things today, but this has been playing over in my mind. I think I need to sleep on it and gain a bit more reflection. I'm confident in saying this is a horrific concept, what I'm battling right now is trying to grasp how potentially damaging and gross this is. I have a strong gut feeling that this is extremely bad.

On a service level it's another Tamagotchi or Animal Crossing neighbor you can send a letter to, but this aspect of puppeteering dead relatives just leaves me with the deepest unease.

We've already got growing issues with AI girlfriends and people experiencing sensations of human connections to AI chat bots and now we're laying on the veneer of dead loved ones over the top of these algorithms.

The more I think on it the more disgusted I feel.

 

[bitbydeath]

Should have her develop a nasty cough if you're not paid up on your sub or decide to cancel.

"You're not going to *cough* let your dear Grandma die, *cough* are you Sonny? *cough*"

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

Creepy, sinister, and messed up.

 

[Walliwallipaloo]

10 years ago, I was writing a story in which a maniac used mass-produced murder-machines to destroy virtually everything outside Detroit. Said maniac turned the city into a North Korea-esque dictatorship, and used a city-wide AI network to emulate citizens' loved ones and convince them there was actually life beyond the city's walls. Synthesized speech, personality profiles, video chat. I thought it was quite out-there, as far as ideas are concerned. Vaguely, roughly one-day plausible.

Yet here we are. Needless to say, I have had little desire to revisit that plot. This, though.

 

[Majima Everywhere System]

It'd be cool if she offered you a pie or potato salad and then it showed up. Gotta monetize it, so keep it on brand.

 

[Shubh_C63]

They are waiting for the next big fiasco. Another 9/11 and companies will be marketing AI profiles of people that died to their family members with Apple/Google-ID.
In grief, most might even subscribe.