Perrott
Gold Member
Wow, which motherboard manufacturer would you recommend instead then?
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Wow, which motherboard manufacturer would you recommend instead then?
Sleepwalker
Member
MSI is decent afaik, but im no expert.
grfunkulus
Banned
It's not though. Sd's resolution is lacking for text and menus. 120hz is a god send for older fps games like halo master chief collection
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Gigabyte
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
Nope battery life. 720 looks sharp af in that size.
fran.fernandez
Member
Im in. Looks lot better than steam deck.
And all games work with no messing around…
IN
And all games work with no messing around…
IN
Kdad
Member
I'm a dirty console player that cosplays knowing about PCs by watching a bunch of youtubers...so I wouldn't trust me. Recently however, it seems that ASUS has been letting QA slide. I'll leave it to actual users to answer you though.
My PC Specs:
AMD Ryzen 3 2200G with Radeon Vega Graphics , 8 GB Ram, No GPU.
Silver Wattle
Gold Member
Or just run at 720p and 60fps cap?
Razvedka
Banned
But what's the operating system? SteamOS or Windows? Because if its the latter, hard pass.
Where can I pre-order the Asus ROG Ally?
Best Buy is the sole retailer in the U.S. that is accepting pre-orders. You’ll be able to pre-order the $699.99 model online starting today. The Best Buy listing is live for the $599.99 model with the AMD Ryzen Z1 processor and 512 GB of storage, but it won’t ship until Q3 2023. We’ll be keeping an eye out for links at other retailers.
Asus ROG Ally handheld PC
- $700
Edit: It's Windows 11. LMAO no.
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Mr Hyde
Member
Pre-ordered one now. I bought the travel case and charging dock too. It was a bit pricy here where I live, and I kinda regret it already, but it's such a compelling piece of tech that I couldn't resist. To have these kinda specs in a handheld, and also have the ability to dock it into the tv, is just so damn cool. I also love the amount of customization you can do with this device. There are so many possibilities with it, with games from Steam, GoG, Gamepass, cloud and even emulators. Very excited to try this out. However, I wasn't guaranteed one at launch, it might come at a layer date, but I don't mind. It arrives when it arrives. I hope you enjoy your ROG Ally too, GAF.
Torrent of Pork
Banned
I fully understand where you're coming from, but the dock/stand can just have a wire coming out the back to connect to the top port. My personal experience with my Switch in handheld has me resting the console on a table, or propping it up on the kickstand while playing with a pro controller.
My Switch lives in the dock 90% of the time, a top charging port is incredibly more useful than the minor inconvenience of plugging in a wire when docking.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
MSI. Definitely not Gigabyte
Buggy Loop
Member
Eeeshh
I don't know
No iFixit/3rd party partnerships for accessories and pieces, proprietary OS, not as mature software as Deck
And its Asus..
I'm not looking for either of those but Deck ecosystem i would trust a hell of a lot more than Asus.
I don't know
No iFixit/3rd party partnerships for accessories and pieces, proprietary OS, not as mature software as Deck
And its Asus..
I'm not looking for either of those but Deck ecosystem i would trust a hell of a lot more than Asus.
Pasta la Vista
Member
Seriously!! 2 freaking hours!!!2hr battery….
Goalus
Member
In Germany, tax is included in that €799. So what is the actual difference?
Goalus
Member
Having a gimped OS is a fucking mistake.
Reallink
Member
Pretty much every moderately populated US metro big enough for a Best Buy has 8-10% sales tax, so we're like $20-$30 cheaper all in.
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grfunkulus
Banned
Says Asus like it's a negative? They have products they have not supported as well as they should have, sure. But in general, their products (I'm talking mainly about gaming laptops) are generally quality for the price. Their mid-low end and even some mid range products can have a few more QC issues but they're no more or less reliable to a significant degree.Eeeshh
I don't know
No iFixit/3rd party partnerships for accessories and pieces, proprietary OS, not as mature software as Deck
And its Asus..
I'm not looking for either of those but Deck ecosystem i would trust a hell of a lot more than Asus.
I would be MORE worried that something like that prototype Alienware handheld would get dropped like a hot potato if sales were even a little bit off.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Honestly this makes me hate my preorder and giving this company any money
demigod
Member
I loved my Asus laptop when i had it (got stolen). They really know how to make the chassis to push the air out the back. I stopped buying their GPU since the 600 series. I bought a 670 back then and right out of the box without any OC, the damn thing crashed on me running heaven benchmark. Returned that shit and said no more from them.
I wonder how much fps fsr2 would boost on these. Im still on the fence if i should get it or not.
I wonder how much fps fsr2 would boost on these. Im still on the fence if i should get it or not.
Cyberpunkd
Member
I’m sure $20-30 will not cover shipping+duties+warranty in case something goes wrong. Also the standard warranty in the EU is 24 months, not 12 as in US.
TrebleShot
Member
I am definitely getting this but more for the screen than anything else you can easily install steamOS on any device and boom you’ve got yourself a steam deck 2.
I almost exclusively buy games on steam minus one or two so it’s no big deal to be on windows unless it’s an anti cheat game. So maybe big picture mode would be best.
However I am more interested in the streaming capabilities remote play and moonlight.
I’m in for interest but I have an order in for the Abxylute which is £179 and basically a Logitech g cloud.
https://abxylute.com/
I almost exclusively buy games on steam minus one or two so it’s no big deal to be on windows unless it’s an anti cheat game. So maybe big picture mode would be best.
However I am more interested in the streaming capabilities remote play and moonlight.
I’m in for interest but I have an order in for the Abxylute which is £179 and basically a Logitech g cloud.
https://abxylute.com/
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
There are different types of pc gamers, those who like to tinker and thise who don't.
That said, it feels like asus is actually trying to improve the overall interface to integrate all of the different launchers into a more console like front end. I know value was trying to do this in a way too bit I found it personally nor that much fun to try and get local xbox games and epic all loaded up. Will see I guess if it's actually better in that regard.
Also seems like it will be more compatible with more games, I had some of stuff that didn't run or well on the deck.
ThaMonkeyClaw
Member
I wasn't saying take away the top USB C connected, they could have put USB C on both the top and bottom, but just move the docking station connected to the bottom, having it on the top just doesn't make sense.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Infinite compatibility and on par/better performance than every other OS. Yes.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
That's not how you spell superior
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Worse power draw, worse ecosystem, more telemetry, and more overhead than every other os. No
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Worse ecosystem how as you don't lose gamepass apps and other launchers and games without compatibility, double click .exes/files, don't need to fuck with terminal stuff, RT doesn't work, HDR doesn't work, etc etc?
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64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Use lutris. Epic games and gog works easily with lutris. I'd take a lack of gamepass for a better optimized os
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Lutris still makes me do a lot of more configurations vs native stuff on Windows, makes lose compatibility and performance with Proton and wine layers... and no Battle.net launcher...
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Steam Deck’s ecosystem is the Steam store. And that’s present on the ROG Ally as well. An OS isn’t an ecosystem.
Can’t see the pain point. You’re not launching games from the desktop. You’re using a front end that launches on startup. You could easily use Big picture mode too.
You need the power to play AAA PC games, run emulators, run non demanding games at 1080p and/or high framerate.
So despite using a mobile phone with a much smaller display, apparently you can’t see anything on a 7 inch display.
And for some weird reason, the screen size ceases to become a constraint for you if it’s a low power streaming handheld?
This reads like needless negativity
Goalus
Member
Or in other words:
It's a makeshift solution, like the OS itself.
Razvedka
Banned
Windows is bloated spyware. 'on par' or 'better performance than every other OS'?
By what metric? Because just looking at Linux, the data shows otherwise:
A summary of the above link: https://acloudguru.com/blog/engineering/how-does-windows-11-perform-vs-linux
Took me literally 10 seconds to find, and it meshes with my professional experience. I'm also pretty sure that SteamOS punches pretty hard on Deck despite the meager hardware specs. It's a pretty efficient (Linux based) gaming OS. But all of this is pretty intuitive, as Linux is a far more streamlined/lighter OS. That doesn't mean it will win all the time, as there are always edge cases involving drivers or poor implementation of critical processes. But as a general rule of thumb, I would always assume linux to be faster and use a smaller memory footprint.
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
"Spyware" that doesn't affect my gaming experiences and can be turned off.Windows is bloated spyware. 'on par' or 'better performance than every other OS'?
By what metric? Because just looking at Linux, the data shows otherwise:
A summary of the above link: https://acloudguru.com/blog/engineering/how-does-windows-11-perform-vs-linux
Took me literally 10 seconds to find, and it meshes with my professional experience.
Better or on par performance for GAMING and insanely superior compatibility with games.
Razvedka
Banned
I would bet money that on equivalent hardware as the deck, Windows 11 would perform worse than SteamOS.
Also no, you cannot disable all of the Windows 11 telemetry/information sharing afaik. You can do your best, but there will always be leaking of information back to Microsoft.
Zathalus
Member
Most Linux vs Windows gaming benchmarks show a lead to Windows or equal performance, even with native games.
fran.fernandez
Member
Now I know, pc gaming is awful with windows and all spyware
So what OS those pc gamers user master race use? Linux ? Mac ?
So what OS those pc gamers user master race use? Linux ? Mac ?
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StereoVsn
Member
Yeah, Gigabyte is terrible. From their blowing up PSUs to their horrible RMA handling, that's one vendor I am also done with. MSI is not amazing but alright. I think ASRock improved a lot recently too. Neither of these is amazing, but it is what it is. EVGA used to be great, but they don't have AM5 boards (have some Intel I think).
Calling 911 Melts Beams
Banned
cant run beos
no ps/2 ports
no floppy drive
who the fuck is this thing intended for?
no ps/2 ports
no floppy drive
who the fuck is this thing intended for?
Razvedka
Banned
SteamOS? Or one of the other distros?
I can believe that game by game random Linux distro might struggle, as it depends on how they're executing the game. One of the interesting bits about Proton* was that games running in it were beating native ports iirc in various but not all cases.
*SteamOS is using Proton.
Edit: casting further doubt on your assertion
Obviously there's some interesting nuance there, regarding AMDGPU. but on the whole I'd say it's a compelling counter argument
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DR3AM
Member
I ahve this dock, will that work with the Ally?
https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/pdp/hp-thunderbolt-dock-120w-g4
https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/pdp/hp-thunderbolt-dock-120w-g4
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M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Shit is that until this time, I have nothing but good experience with Asus, so it suck major ass. I went and bought X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI, even if pricey, I can't really risk some catastrophic failure. I sold the Asus board, I had for my 7900x 3D...
Topher
Gold Member
I've cancelled my preorder after watching those videos. I've already had bad experiences with Armoury Crate in the past so I'm not going to be an early adopter especially with a company that has, of late, not been deserving of my money. Sucks too because historically I've always had a positive opinion of Asus. I'm typing on a Flow z13 right now.
Edit: Also, the Ally reviews are a mixed bag.
Really? I've never had a problem with Gigabyte
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