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[remember_spinal]

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Andy says Fable is "miles away" and Jordan Miller says the term "Witcher-like" was thrown around a lot for Fable.

 

[Topher]

Seems reliable....

 

[01011001]

Fable is "miles away" and "Witcher-like"

that is a double yikes from me

 

[begotten]

Perfect Dark and Fable were my most anticipated Xbox games going into this generation since they're actual IPs with an Xbox identity.

Sad they're still years off despite being announced like 2-3 years ago?

 

[Brigandier]

MS need to seriously get there house in order... Games that should be nearing completion entering production is ridiculous.

 

[Flabagast]

When you realize that besides Avowed all these projects were announced before the announcement of Returnal, GoW Ragnarok, Horizon 2, R&C Drift Apart, Miles Morales, Demon's Souls R, GT7 etc....

 

[01011001]

Perfect Dark and Fable were my most anticipated Xbox games going into this generation since they're actual IPs with an Xbox identity.

Sad they're still years off despite being announced like 2-3 years ago?

yeah, also Perfect Dark taking that long screams incompetence to me.
either that or what they're making isn't Perfect Dark and just uses that IP for PR

 

[adamsapple]

For some reason I always thought Avowed would be the first one out, maybe even before Starfield.

Ah well. Would be a hoot if either that or HB2 are holiday 23' games.

 

[remember_spinal]

Seems reliable....

A few people have been saying that though

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Hellblade 2 should release this year. if not another fail

 

[quest]

When you realize that besides Avowed all these projects were announced before the announcement of Returnal, GoW Ragnarok, Horizon 2, R&C Drift Apart, Miles Morales, Demon's Souls R, GT7 etc....

How many of those games were built from a new team? Those all were from established studios working on a sequel for the most part. None from a new studio-team. I know most here think you start a new studio-team and a year later a AAA game comes out.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

How many of those games were built from a new team? Those all were from established studios working on a sequel for the most part. None from a new studio-team. I know most here think you start a new studio-team and a year later a AAA game comes out.

that is what a lot of Xbox fanboys believe ironically

 

[semiconscious]

When you realize that besides Avowed all these projects were announced before the announcement of Returnal, GoW Ragnarok, Horizon 2, R&C Drift Apart, Miles Morales, Demon's Souls R, GT7 etc....

okay, okay, man, i hear you... but, i mean, phil! phil's just such a great guy, eh?...

 

[feynoob]

Avowed needs to get a release date this year.

Obsidian needs to show their talent.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Avowed needs to get a release date this year.

Obsidian needs to show their talent.

and Fable, Project Dark, contraband, state of decay, everwild.

 

[Dirk Benedict]

HBII looked far away, imo. I am looking forward to how that really plays... ya'know? with an UI n shit, frame drops, etc.

 

[Topher]

How many of those games were built from a new team? Those all were from established studios working on a sequel for the most part. None from a new studio-team. I know most here think you start a new studio-team and a year later a AAA game comes out.

I can get that for Fable and Playground, but we should know more about Avowed and when to expect it by now.

A few people have been saying that though

Yeah, probably repeating what was said by Jez Corden and Andy Robinson. Just seems to me most of these guys are more wrong than right most of the time.

 

[feynoob]

and Fable, Project Dark, contraband, state of decay, everwild.

Those games can take their time.

Hell blade 2 and avowed are a must this year.

Without Bethesda, Xbox is very dry in 2023, considering current 2023 games are from 2022 delays.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Those games can take their time.

Hell blade 2 and avowed are a must this year.

Without Bethesda, Xbox is very dry in 2023, considering current 2023 games are from 2022 delays.

can take their time

 

[Jinzo Prime]

Avowed needs to get a release date this year.

Obsidian needs to show their talent.

Wasn't Hellblade 2 announced before Avowed? I think there is too much pressure on Obsidian, they shouldn't be the only internal studio getting shit done.

 

[bluecowboys]

Hell blade 2, Quake, and Avowed will release next year. Maybe we will get another hidden gem like an inxile game or something.

MS already has this year cover for Xbox with red fall, hi fi rush, Star field, forza motor sport, and age of empires 4.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Those are literally all PS4 games. 2 of which happened to locked behind the PS5 pay wall. I said it.

 

[feynoob]

How many of those games were built from a new team? Those all were from established studios working on a sequel for the most part. None from a new studio-team. I know most here think you start a new studio-team and a year later a AAA game comes out.

That shouldn't be an excuse. Xbox/MS needs to serious with their studios.

But also OP is kinda wrong for using that metric.
Reused assets are faster compared to a new brand IPs, or starting studios from scratch.

 

[Topher]

Those are literally all PS4 games. 2 of which happened to locked behind the PS5 pay wall. I said it.

 

[feynoob]

can take their time

2024 is far away.

Wasn't Hellblade 2 announced before Avowed? I think there is too much pressure on Obsidian, they shouldn't be the only internal studio getting shit done.

Obsidian is top tier, unlike Ninja theory.
Also hell blade 2 is transitioning from AA to AAA. They don't have the same track as Obsidian.

 

[feynoob]

Sony devs making a PS4 game according to him.

 

[quest]

and Fable, Project Dark, contraband, state of decay, everwild.

Lol.

Established huge teams making new ip. Yes a new smaller team should take less time or any smaller team.

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[ChorizoPicozo]

Lol.

Established huge teams making new ip. Yes a new smaller team should take less time or any smaller team.

http://[URL]https://venturebeat.com...illa-games-made-horizon-zero-dawn-in-7-years/

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http://[URL]https://screenrant.com/ghost-of-tsushima-combat-six-years-perfect/

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that is for MS/Xbox to figure out.

 

[Umbasaborne]

How the fuck are these games not even close!? What are they doing over there!?

 

[ChiefDada]

Sincerely feel for Xbox gamers. Still waiting for X to give it to them.

 

[feynoob]

Lol.

Established huge teams making new ip. Yes a new smaller team should take less time or any smaller team.

http://[URL]https://venturebeat.com...illa-games-made-horizon-zero-dawn-in-7-years/

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http://[URL]https://screenrant.com/ghost-of-tsushima-combat-six-years-perfect/

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The problem isn't the timeline, but the production issues.
MS/Xbox clearly have problems with their studios.
State of decay 3, project dark and everwild. That is a lot of games that have a production issues.

what the hell is Phil doing? Same thing for Matt booty?

I wish I can get an easy job like that.

 

[adamsapple]

that is for MS/Xbox to figure out.

but the hyperbole is fully in your control.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

How the fuck are these games not even close!? What are they doing over there!?

trying to figure out how game development works

 

[Crayon]

They show stuff way out even when there is nothing to show and it's been that way for a long time. That is Phil's way. No tears shed for anyone who was expecting all those games any time soon.

 

[remember_spinal]

2 of which happened to locked behind the PS5 pay wall

I gotta use this one

 

[feynoob]

How the fuck are these games not even close!? What are they doing over there!?

We have a clip of their work documentary.

 

[touchfuzzy]

Wasn’t there some report like a month ago that Fable was playable start to finish and looking wonderful or something? Lol

 

[SmokedMeat]

How the fuck are these games not even close!? What are they doing over there!?

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

but the hyperbole is fully in your control.

i am not the one making these headlines:

 

[balls of snow]

This is why i rather sony not announced tlou part 3 in the near future. That ms 2020 conference will live in infamy.

 

[Topher]

Wasn’t there some report like a month ago that Fable was playable start to finish and looking wonderful or something? Lol

Some website said the game was in a "playable state" based on something they pulled from a guy's Linkedin profile page. That's all that was about.

 

[RevGaming]

can take their time

What does Xbox and Turtles have in common?

Being green and slow.

 

[feynoob]

i am not the one making these headlines:

At least Xbox has the best headline for hyping.

 

[JimmyRustler]

When you realize that besides Avowed all these projects were announced before the announcement of Returnal, GoW Ragnarok, Horizon 2, R&C Drift Apart, Miles Morales, Demon's Souls R, GT7 etc....

MS really has to most unreliable studios out there. What the hell are they doing?

 

[feynoob]

What does Xbox and Turtles have in common?

Being green and slow.

Yet they don't know how to duck from interviews like turtles.
They are bringing shame to the turtles.

 

[RevGaming]

trying to figure out how game development works

Bro I just can't stop laughing with your responses and reactions hahahaahahahaha

 

[Darkmakaimura]

I almost forgot about Avowed.

Pillars of Eternity universe is interesting, sort of.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

At least Xbox has the best headline for hyping.

and don't get me started with YT thumbnails.

 

[RevGaming]

Xbox will turn cod from an annual release to one per gen release if they go like this

 

[ZehDon]

When you realize that besides Avowed all these projects were announced before the announcement of Returnal, GoW Ragnarok, Horizon 2, R&C Drift Apart, Miles Morales, Demon's Souls R, GT7 etc....

It's really something, isn't it? Maybe Xbox needed to buy up some publishers because it realised it didn't actually have any games it could release this generation.