Venom Snake
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So, are we firing Jim Ryan or not?
The delusional on these posts lolIt's funny how you omit that PS3 was coming off the dominant PS2 generation and saw thier customer base get cut in half.
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I think this gen is going to look similar to that.
Consumer Confidence in the US is still pretty decent especially relative to the UK
https://data.oecd.org/leadind/consumer-confidence-index-cci.htm
Oh yeah, I know the main reasons. The Germans aren't making it easy for themselves re the energy crisis. If we do get energy blackouts in the UK/EU, that's going to be an 'experience'.The UK and Eurozone are in the midst of an energy crisis far greater than anywhere else in the world. Then to make matters worse their currencies are tumbling against the dollar, compounding inflation, which makes purchases and travel even more expensive than they already are.
The UK and Europe are stuck between a rock and a hard place at the moment in economic terms. Hyperinflation or depression are the only two options presenting themselves at the moment. The spillover and subsequent fallout is yet to hit the US economy.
And I can't take you seriously for not understanding what a masterpiece that game is.
I dont get how xbox is still seeing sales growth with absolutely 0 releases, its performing so damn well.
To think its still doing so well with the power of gamepass alone is proof that it's going to be mental once big releases start hitting.
Crazy, I guess it's out selling all previous xboxes by a considerable amount now.
It's the same original and revolutionary PS3 experience with groundbreaking visuals that are still holding up as the best in the business 2 years after. What's so hard to understand?I agree with PS3 version getting that score. It is in my top 20 favourite games.
But remake?
Like seriously, those are some Elden Ring level scores. Demons falls short on multiple levels compared to recent From games.
90+ metascore should be reserved for groundbreaking titles, not some pretty remakes.
It's the same original and revolutionary PS3 experience
You don't find anything odd about this?
LMAO.
Oh, dude, with your avatar you would be constantly trying to punch down this seminal release. I don't even know why I bother. I should know better really. Keep fighting the good fight, I guess.
You don't find anything odd about this?
LMAO.
Skating on thin ice but he can stay for now.So, are we firing Jim Ryan or not?
So your argument is...a 1:1 visual remake of a game that came out in 2009?
And MS will STILL be behind Sony and Nintendo. So maybe MS should buy more.None of them are innocent of this. Sony were ridiculous in 2005 and 2006. They really did think they were too big to fail. Reality slapped them in face and they learned their lesson well, as did Microsoft. Look at difference from the kinect and early xbox one period to now.
It isn't the same at all! Name me some big multiplat ips that sony have acquired. There's destiny, but sony will let bungie carry on the way they are. What else is there?
Now name the ones Microsoft have acquired. You know it isn't the same. Stop acting like it is.
Didn't the Bills just annihilate the Super Bowl Champions a week ago. Is your memory that poor. Even as someone who roots against the Bills, it is pretty clear they are a serious contender.And in threads like this with the undisputed facts they will be very quiet. Facts don't line up with narrative. Like the Buffalo Bills fans they are it'll be all about next season. Of course, when the next season comes it'll be all about the next next season.
They should start including Xbox + PC numbers to showcase how well xbox is selling.
Cause that's what xbox is now. PC + console.
Did the Activision purchase get approved today and I missed it?That 100 billion spent on acquisitions has got to pay off at some point.
I don't get your post, aren't pc games from xbox studios also counted? If halo infinite sold 1M on PC in a month it would show up here lol.They should start including Xbox + PC numbers to showcase how well xbox is selling.
Cause that's what xbox is now. PC + console.
ok forza deserved it.Absolutely.
Xbox has two games above 90, while Sony has none.
My understanding was he is talking about console numbers.I don't get your post, aren't pc games from xbox studios also counted? If halo infinite sold 1M on PC in a month it would show up here lol.
My understanding was he is talking about console numbers.
Same scenario when Switch was trouncing PS4.Is this a good comparison when PS5 sells everything Sony can produce every month while you can walk into any store and buy a switch?
Flight Simulator is great at what it does and true sim enthusiasts really seem to enjoy it. I think it deserves the score. I personally think it's one of the best made but most boring games ever made.ok forza deserved it.
Microsoft flight simulator? eehhhhhhhhhhhh
I'm more shocked that we are having these conversations like the last 2 NPD results didn't happen.The delusional on these posts lol
We are 2 years In and only one console is struggling to reach 20mil. and its readily available
What do you think happened with the last NPD results? What about the NPD results before that? What do you think they mean? What about the NPD results before that? What are the facts?I'm more shocked that we are having these conversations like the last 2 NPD results didn't happen.
Some ppl are arguing based on feelings, to hell with facts.
The PS5 price increase caused what Phil Spencer said about supply for....the rest of this year....to fly under the radar...
Xbox Series X/S supply will be limited until 2023, Phil Spencer says
Xbox boss Phil Spencer tells consumers that Xbox Series X/S console supply will remain constrained and limited throughout holiday 2022 and into 2023.www.tweaktown.com
At the time I said I wonder if this was pre emptive based Sony stock getting better.
Saying your product will be low in stock during holiday season will be...an uphill battle...to come back from.
I'm more baffled how people think ps5 will sell close to ps3.I'm more shocked that we are having these conversations like the last 2 NPD results didn't happen.
Some ppl are arguing based on feelings, to hell with facts.
The PS5 price increase caused what Phil Spencer said about supply for....the rest of this year....to fly under the radar...
Xbox Series X/S supply will be limited until 2023, Phil Spencer says
Xbox boss Phil Spencer tells consumers that Xbox Series X/S console supply will remain constrained and limited throughout holiday 2022 and into 2023.www.tweaktown.com
At the time I said I wonder if this was pre emptive based Sony stock getting better.
Saying your product will be low in stock during holiday season will be...an uphill battle...to come back from.
What do you think happened with the last NPD results? What about the NPD results before that? What do you think they mean? What about the NPD results before that? What are the facts?
Do you really think PS5 is going to end up selling more consoles in NA? I'm not entirely sure how you think they have an uphill battle to come back from. Can you explain? Sony had low stock throughout the last year, did you think they had an uphill battle to come back from?
https://www.vg247.com/xbox-one-micr...ion-lifetime-sales-100-million-xbox-360-units
"Microsoft's senior vice president of Interactive Entertainment Business Yusuf Mehdi has stated that given the broad multimedia focus of Xbox One, there's no reason why it can't shift between 400 million and 1 billion consoles in its lifetime."
They came up JUST short.
The point is that they're both facing the same "uphill battle". Stock issues have been a thing since the generation started, and as many people shouted when Xbox was coming out on top in NPD, sales numbers are coming down to how much stock they can get out. 2023 should hopefully be better, especially for Xbox since they have a stacked first party lineup so they'll want to make sure they'll have enough stock to meet the increased demand.Sony is still sticking with their 18 million prediction.
What you're asking ...Its literally in my post you just quoted:
Phil said to expect Xbox consoles to be supply constrained...for the rest of the year...
Even with low PS5 stock last year....it never got to the point of how it is with Xbox Series...
That's literally the entire point.
Honestly, it's really not that serious. It's an uphill battle, that's all.
Yes, they're both facing the same uphill battle...And so far Sony seems to be getting better. After saying Jan-Mar 2022 would be slow for them.The point is that they're both facing the same "uphill battle". Stock issues have been a thing since the generation started, and as many people shouted when Xbox was coming out on top in NPD, sales numbers are coming down to how much stock they can get out. 2023 should hopefully be better, especially for Xbox since they have a stacked first party lineup so they'll be want to make sure they'll have enough stock to meet the increased demand.
Consumer Confidence in the US is still pretty decent especially relative to the UK
https://data.oecd.org/leadind/consumer-confidence-index-cci.htm
PS5 is hitting 50M during next year. Are people saying ps5 is selling less than 30M units after 2023? Lmao!I'm more baffled how people think ps5 will sell close to ps3.
The library is just insane to think there is any chance of that to happen lol
So your argument is...a 1:1 visual remake of a game that came out in 2009?
Ignoring the PS3 comparison, cause its going to do better than the ps3. 50m during CY2023 or FY2023?PS5 is hitting 50M during next year.
PS5 is hitting 50M until December 2023. With easeIgnoring the PS3 comparison, cause its going to do better than the ps3. 50m during CY2023 or FY2023?
how much we at now? 21.7m, forecasted 37.3 to be in june 2023 so would need 12.7m in the last 2 quarters in 2023. maybe.PS5 is hitting 50M until December 2023. With ease
how much we at now? 21.7m, forecasted 37.3 to be in june 2023 so would need 12.7m in the last 2 quarters in 2023. maybe.
I am still waiting to see those numbers though; not sure the 10% increase in revenue is a huge indicator of that yet; sony also imo isn't the greatest at forecast see last year. We will have to wait for the next set of earnings, what number are you and Tiago Rodrigues expecting to see?They are INCREASING production next year over 18.7, most likely due to the redesigns and better global conditions surrounding production.
I'm still laughing from reading a post that said PS5 will sell half of PS4. How in the fuck someone can come to that conclusion, I'll never understand.
I am still waiting to see those numbers though; not sure the 10% increase in revenue is a huge indicator of that yet; sony also imo isn't the greatest at forecast see last year. We will have to wait for the next set of earnings, what number are you and Tiago Rodrigues expecting to see?
They revise that down btw https://www.gamesindustry.biz/sony-...recast-to-18m-units-due-to-component-shortage. Again this is all speculation, and no-one really know for sure what the numbers are going to be. I don't know how much more useful this convo is going to get.They’ve already said they are expecting to ship 22.6 consoles next fiscal year, whether you want to believe them or wait and see is up to you.
https://www.thegamer.com/sony-ps5-sell-22-6-million-2023/
That alone would put them close to 60m by the march 2024
I'm still laughing from reading a post that said PS5 will sell half of PS4. How in the fuck someone can come to that conclusion, I'll never understand. So something is going to happen and PS5 is just gonna stop selling completely in 2024 and stay at 60m apparently.
Kagey K you need to lay off the hallucinogenics man.
They revise that down btw https://www.gamesindustry.biz/sony-...recast-to-18m-units-due-to-component-shortage. Again this is all speculation, and no-one really know for sure what the numbers are going to be. I don't know how much more useful a convo is going to get.
They don’t realize that would literally be a disaster for Sony. Like, one that they probably wouldn’t even be able to come back from, there is no way they could have an xbox one, GameCube/wii u, level failure like that. Its just not realistic either, especially not with demand the way it is.
I think he's placing his bets on gamepass.
what exactly am i saying? just to get my position according to you, right?If you expect the chip shortage and productions issues to get worse after this year I guess what you’re saying makes sense, but there is nothing hinting towards that happening.
Thats the main thing, this prediction of 60m is personally stupid. Sony last year did have a dumb reason for not changing their forecast, i don't know if that's built a bit of scepticism personally.First, let's see if they reach their 18m for the fiscal year.
I'm not sure what his thoughts process is but it's pure delusion to think PS5 is going to be Sonys worst selling console at only 60m. Either he is getting xbox mixed up with PS, or straight up trolling.