Redfall and Starfield are the games that are for Phil's console. Deathloop got a delay too though, but guess what, Jim had the forsight to release several other games for its console that year along with their Deathloop exclusive.But it's funny. Because Phil does not get credit for quality of Deathloop from Bethesda, but somehow he gets blame for Starfield and Redfall delays from Bethesda
Xbox and Dallas Cowboys fans.“Xbox - Just wait until next year, every year”
That doesn't the angry narrative here.We should have a thread to just highlight what games got delayed over the last few years, especially since covid. That should give us a better idea and if everyone is affected.
Come on now. No need to be so rude about Phil.What an attention whore and gaf keeps sucking his dick.
The only ones with any proof are MS and they don't share the numbers, so you have to ask them. It's obviously operating at a loss as they would be shouting out loud and clear if they made any profit.Proof?
They don't disclose any figures from their subdivisions. I don't think Office, Azure etc. are "loss leaders" just because Microsoft doesn't report any profit numbers.
The cost for the acquisition isn't in this year's report. It's gonna be in next year's report, that's why they forecast lower profit.
You're looking at the wrong number, I was comparing operating income. Sony doesn't disclose net income for their subdivisions.
All of that to get MS to a place were they pretty much were already at but now spending a lot more.All he's done was spend a shit load of money from Microsoft
Anyone could have done the same
He doesn't get the blame for those games getting delayed, not the credit for game that were well on their way before he bought the studio. He gets the blame for promising so much and delivering so little over the years to the point those games became so important to Xbox. Without Starfield it looks like they got nothing for 2022.I see, so MS and Spencer doesn’t get credit for those, but he gets the blame for Starfield and Redfall delays ?
So by this logic, Office, Windows, Azure etc. are also operating at a loss? Obviously not.The only ones with any proof are MS and they don't share the numbers, so you have to ask them. It's obviously operating at a loss as they would be shouting out loud and clear if they made any profit.
Nope, Xbox is a very different business model compared to Netflix.Phil sold Satya a bill of goods on how Xbox will be like Netflix someday. What was Netflix's model? Operate a loss for years on end until it would turn around and build critical mass to make good money. That plan might take, 5, 10, 20 years to bare fruit and I guess Satya is happy to sit and wait.
Idk what your point is, the matter of fact is Activision made more profit than two of the three big console companies, so acting like Activision is doomed and needs to do a complete 180 is a bit weird.On the acquisition costs, again, the only account for $300M for next year. That's far from the billions they accrued for investments. The numbers just don't match and they need to be sitting under a Capex budget (minus the $1B for Opex in retention of Bungie talent over x amount of years).
The other 19 have yet to put out a single game.
Nah he’s still very niche looking at his channel views. He gets a lot of attention here because he posts I’m guessing. That’s the only reason I know about his podcast.Do people still listen to this dude? I thought that after everyone having a laugh at him with the Metroid Dread debacle, he could have lost a lot of credibility.
Do you mean Phil or Jaffe?What an attention whore and gaf keeps sucking his dick.
1- Office pays the bills, all of those make the real money MS has, their core businessSo by this logic, Office, Windows, Azure etc. are also operating at a loss? Obviously not.
Nope, Xbox is a very different business model compared to Netflix.
Idk what your point is, the matter of fact is Activision made more profit than two of the three big console companies, so acting like Activision is doomed and needs to do a complete 180 is a bit weird.
All he's done was spend a shit load of money from Microsoft
Anyone could have done the same
All of that to get MS to a place were they pretty much were already at but now spending a lot more.
MS had massive success charging people $10 just for Live Gold already. He goes through all this effort to grow Gamepass for an extra $5? The service it's despite the obvious value (and promised value) only grew to 25m subscribers in 5 years, being available on Xbox, PC and over the cloud.
He doesn't get the blame for those games getting delayed, not the credit for game that were well on their way before he bought the studio. He gets the blame for promising so much and delivering so little over the years to the point those games became so important to Xbox.
Without Starfield it looks like they got nothing for 2022.
Xbox itself is irrelevant to MS leadership, just a way to get people in their service with not 1 exclusive (all games on PC, etc)
Are you sure?The other 19 have yet to put out a single game.
It has to do with back when Jaffe apologized for being a white man. I guess he's stuck in a particular political Reddit/Twitter bubble.That was just a bizarre rant. Paying Russian prostitutes to pee......what?
The David Jaffe experience. He has interesting thoughts buried under inane ramblingsThat was just a bizarre rant. Paying Russian prostitutes to pee......what?
Just like Google was saying this on their conference:Today is truly a strange day.
No, Xbox isn’t ‘irrelevant’ to MS leadership. Satya himself was talking up the console’s sales success just weeks ago.
Philly does Dallas?Xbox and Dallas Cowboys fans.
MS got publisher of the year 2021. Phil isn't doing so bad.
Gamepass is $9.99 (console or PC) and Gamepass Ultimate is $14.99.Xbox Live Gold - $60 per year.
Gamepass - $120 a year
Gamepass Ultimate - $180 a year.
That’s not an incremental $5. It’s way more than that.
Xbox gamers are saving too much money. Fire Phil.Gamepass is $9.99 and Gamepass Ultimate is $14.99.
If you want to factor discounts you need to factor how many people just converted to Gamepass using the 1$ trick, how many are abusing trials, etc. There is no way to know who is paying full price and who isn't so I'll just stick to the official price.
People that play F2P or buy/sell used games are saving even more, what is your point? It has nothing to do with what is being discussed here.Xbox gamers are saving too much money. Fire Phil.
Age of empires: pc only, not for their new consoleLast year they put out Age of Empires, Flight Simulator, Halo, Forza, Psychonauts, and technically Deathloop.
This year is rough, no doubt, but let's not act like it has been dry for years.
Age of empires: pc only, not for their new console
Flight sim: a port of a pc game, not a new game
Psychonauts: a multiplatform game, hardly bolsters the series x exclusive line up
Forza horizon 5: no issues here, lets move on
Deathloop: a ps5 exclusive game
Halo: unfinished after 6 years
Sure last year was an improvement, but a far cry from sony or nintendos output
Flight simulator is 2020 game.Last year they put out Age of Empires, Flight Simulator, Halo, Forza, Psychonauts, and technically Deathloop.
This year is rough, no doubt, but let's not act like it has been dry for years.
That's goalpost moving. Fact is, those games were made by Xbox Game Studios (minus Flight Sim). Sony's output wasn't better last year.Age of empires: pc only, not for their new console
Flight sim: a port of a pc game, not a new game
Psychonauts: a multiplatform game, hardly bolsters the series x exclusive line up
Forza horizon 5: no issues here, lets move on
Deathloop: a ps5 exclusive game
Halo: unfinished after 6 years
Sure last year was an improvement, but a far cry from sony or nintendos output
The point is you're weirdly criticizing Phil because Gamepass isn't a large price increase over Gold. So the argument is that he hasn't accomplished much because we're saving too much money?People that play F2P or buy/sell used games are saving even more, what is your point? It has nothing to do with what is being discussed here.
Why wasn't MS working on it too? Phil was the general manager of Microsoft Studios already in 2008. Name a single successful new IP that he managed to produce since then? Forza, Halo and Gears already existed.For sure. But I don't think people truly appreciate how long it took Sony to get there. They've been working on this kind of big AAA development since 2005-ish. Nintendo is a totally different beast with mostly much smaller games and expectations.
There is no goal posting. People don't care about those at all. They want whatever they can to get angry about xbox.That's goalpost moving. Fact is, those games were made by Xbox Game Studios (minus Flight Sim). Sony's output wasn't better last year.
Yeah when you really break it down the publisher of the year talking point doesn’t hold up. Asterisks next to everything that isn’t Forza Horizon 5.Age of empires: pc only, not for their new console
Flight sim: a port of a pc game, not a new game
Psychonauts: a multiplatform game, hardly bolsters the series x exclusive line up
Forza horizon 5: no issues here, lets move on
Deathloop: a ps5 exclusive game
Halo: unfinished after 6 years
Sure last year was an improvement, but a far cry from sony or nintendos output
Wait? What did I miss?That was just a bizarre rant. Paying Russian prostitutes to pee......what?
Because MS management didn't give a crap about xbox.Why wasn't MS working on it too? Phil was the general manager of Microsoft Studios already in 2008.
Will Hermen Hulst get a 15 years windows to show up results?
Inxille also released remaster of Bard's Tale and VR shooter for Oculus.Are you sure?
Since their respective acquisitions, Double Fine have released Psychonauts 2, inXile have released Wasteland 3, Obsidian have released Outer Worlds, Playground have released Forza Horizon 5, Arkane have released Deathloop, and Tango have released Ghostwire. Xbox also recently released Halo Infinite, Age of Empires 4 and Minecraft Dungeons.
All the games mentioned above released in the past 3 years, so 9 games in 3 years. That's maybe not a great number, but far from the "Xbox has no games" meme being peddled over and over again
The only absurd talking point people are clinging to is that Xbox has no games, while Xbox won publisher of the year in 2021 with the highest Metacritic average in the history of MetacriticAnyone seriously trotting out this inane "publisher of the year award" needs to be banned. I cannot imagine clinging to such an absurd talking point unless you're literally getting paid.
Metacritic is good only for high rated Sony games and low rated MS games....otherwise is not a good source.The only absurd talking point people are clinging to is that Xbox has no games, while Xbox won publisher of the year in 2021 with the highest Metacritic average in the history of Metacritic
Google doesn't need to sell personal information. Billions of idiots put it on the internet for free every day.Just like Google was saying this on their conference:
You are all too naive.
They still sell it to advertisers.Google doesn't need to sell personal information. Billions of idiots put it on the internet for free every day.
I doubt itThat looks to stay multiplatform though.