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PS5 HDMI Cable

Kerotan

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I have an HDMI 2.1 TV. Is there any reason to buy a new HDMI cable and not use the one that comes in the box? The ps5 was bought in May so its not a day 1 ps5 if that makes any difference.
 

Con-Z-epT

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I'm sure somebody could measure a difference in picture quality with a high end HDMI cable but i doubt the average human would see one.

The only real reason to exchange it would be the short length.
 
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M1chl

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You probably want some sturdier cable, if you want it to have console further from TV, but for normal usage, I think that the cable which is coming with the box is good enough. I don't have PS5 yet, but the one from XSX is more than enough for HDMI 2.1 features.
 
The standard cable is not particularly protected against external influences and also made from copper. It is a digital signal that is transported in an analog way that could be affected by interference.

You sound like a Best Buy employee trying to sell Monster cables.

There’s literally no difference, you will never run into signal interference on an HDMI cable unless it’s broken.
 

GymWolf

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I bought 2 certified 2.1 maxonar cables for the ps5 and pc, it may be overkill but better than having any sort of problem because of a cheap cable (and i'm sure that the one inside ps5 is as cheap as it comes)
 

Lone Wolf

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The standard cable is not particularly protected against external influences and also made from copper. It is a digital signal that is transported in an analog way that could be affected by interference.
This is definitely true and why I bought fiber optic HDMI cables for my PS5 and XSX. I get less handshake issues as well.
 

Con-Z-epT

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You sound like a Best Buy employee trying to sell Monster cables.

There’s literally no difference, you will never run into signal interference on an HDMI cable unless it’s broken.
I’ve solved for this by installing flux capacitors in my house
I never tried to convince the OP to buy a high end cable but i needed to point out that it is not as simple as Boss Mog Boss Mog belive it is. Sure under most circumstances there won't be any interference or differences in picture quality.

Believe what you want but most people don't have a problem to shell out thousand bucks for some nice tech and then use the cheapest cable they can find which i find ridiculous. Its like buying an exquisit car and then using retreaded tires. Sure it will drive you safely home and feel mostly the same.

There are differences in terms of audio and video output when it comes to the quality of the composition and the processing of the cable itself. Period! How much you are willing to invest is up to you.
 
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FrankWza

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I needed to get a longer hdmi for my set up and if I remember correctly when i tested the bandwidth the one in the box was at least 40gbps if not 48. I was mostly testing the cables I was trying to replace it with and that was a shit show. That old “all hdmi cables are the same” slogan is not true.
 

bender

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I needed to get a longer hdmi for my set up and if I remember correctly when i tested the bandwidth the one in the box was at least 40gbps if not 48. I was mostly testing the cables I was trying to replace it with and that was a shit show. That old “all hdmi cables are the same” slogan is not true.

Coat your cables in wax for a free boost in performance.
 

Con-Z-epT

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This is definitely true and why I bought fiber optic HDMI cables for my PS5 and XSX. I get less handshake issues as well.
I also used an fiber optic HDMI cable for the PS5 initially but ran into problems where the cable would overheat so that i couldn't even touch it. Not sure what caused it but i went back to analog.
 

Kerotan

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The standard cable is not particularly protected against external influences and also made from copper. It is a digital signal that is transported in an analog way that could be affected by interference.
Is that why you see those gold encrusted cables that cost like an extra tenner?
Coat your cables in wax for a free boost in performance.
Unless the wax comes out your ears it ain't free!
 

FrankWza

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Out of the mouth of babes.
I don’t know. I didn’t watch that video because it’s something about pentiums. If you’re still talking about hdmi cables not being all the same, they aren’t. The first version of Apple 4ktv for example. The included cable doesn’t work as well as the cable they include with the new version since they updated to DV. OP mentions 2.1 as being his concern for compatibility and in that case, there are very different hdmi cables out there and going by whatever the manufacturer or seller lists is no guarantee.
 

bender

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I don’t know. I didn’t watch that video because it’s something about pentiums. If you’re still talking about hdmi cables not being all the same, they aren’t. The first version of Apple 4ktv for example. The included cable doesn’t work as well as the cable they include with the new version since they updated to DV. OP mentions 2.1 as being his concern for compatibility and in that case, there are very different hdmi cables out there and going by whatever the manufacturer or seller lists is no guarantee.

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Lone Wolf

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I also used an fiber optic HDMI cable for the PS5 initially but ran into problems where the cable would overheat so that i couldn't even touch it. Not sure what caused it but i went back to analog.
That’s weird. They are one directional. Did you have it plugged in correctly?
 

Con-Z-epT

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That’s weird. They are one directional. Did you have it plugged in correctly?
Yes. Double checked. Worked for quite some time but at some point to picture went black and came back. Afterwards the console shut down and when i looked for the cables and touched the HDMI cable i nearly burnt myself.
 
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FrankWza

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based on those reviews it looks hit or miss. Some said it passed diagnostic and some say it has 2.1 issues. I’d go with mono price or belkin that claims 48gbps if you don’t have a way to test. Are you using a 2.1 receiver or direct to tv?
 

FrankWza

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I don't think that the HDMI cable, that is provided with the PS5, is digital.
They are all digital. You’re thinking maybe fiber vs copper? The difference is in the designation and even that is based on a spread. It’s best to focus on bandwidth within each protocol. So, hdmi 2.1 can be as low as 18gbps i think or as a high as say, 48gbps. The higher the bandwidth the better the cable and the least amount of issues that should arise.
 

Fbh

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You need at lest something like this:
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Otherwise you might as well have stayed on PS4

I don't think that the HDMI cable, that is provided with the PS5, is digital.

HDMI carries a digital signal.
Usually with digital signals you either get the full signal or you simply don't get anything, you can't only get a partial amount of it, it's either 100% or 0%. So a $1000 cable is going to give you the same image as a $20 one.

Usually the more expensive cables (I'm talking the $30-50 range, not the ridiculous stuff I posted above) just have better build quality and should last longer before needing to be replaced, specially if you are going to be moving or plugging and unplugging it a lot (to connect different devices). But you won't be getting a better picture from them.
 
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You need at lest something like this:
eJVk435.jpg

Otherwise you might as well have stayed on PS4



HDMI carries a digital signal.
Usually with digital signals you either get the full signal or you simply don't get anything, you can't only get a partial amount of it, it's either 100% or 0%. So a $1000 cable is going to give you the same image as a $20 one.

Usually the more expensive cables (I'm talking the $30-50 range, not the ridiculous stuff I posted above) just have better build quality and should last longer before needing to be replaced, specially if you are going to be moving or plugging and unplugging it a lot (to connect different devices). But you won't be getting a better picture from them.

Pretty much this. Having an even slightly degraded signal on an HDMI cable isn’t going to result in reduced picture quality, it’s going to result in a black screen.

 
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Thaedolus

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You need at lest something like this:
eJVk435.jpg

Otherwise you might as well have stayed on PS4



HDMI carries a digital signal.
Usually with digital signals you either get the full signal or you simply don't get anything, you can't only get a partial amount of it, it's either 100% or 0%. So a $1000 cable is going to give you the same image as a $20 one.

Usually the more expensive cables (I'm talking the $30-50 range, not the ridiculous stuff I posted above) just have better build quality and should last longer before needing to be replaced, specially if you are going to be moving or plugging and unplugging it a lot (to connect different devices). But you won't be getting a better picture from them.

Exactly this. The difference between a more expensive cable and a less expensive cable is build quality. Maybe you’ll have reliability issues with a cheap cable (I’ve only had one bad cable in like the last 15 years 🤷‍♀️) but you’re not getting any better or worse quality of picture. It either works or it doesn’t
 
The standard cable is not particularly protected against external influences and also made from copper. It is a digital signal that is transported in an analog way that could be affected by interference.

Thanks for taking me back to 1992, when I would read audio magazines at the library filled with bizarre claims such as “green marker on your CD makes it sound better”.
 

Con-Z-epT

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Thanks for taking me back to 1992, when I would read audio magazines at the library filled with bizarre claims such as “green marker on your CD makes it sound better”.
Maybe it just applied partially to the HDMI cable but it sure is not a bizarre claim in general.
 
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Kerotan

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based on those reviews it looks hit or miss. Some said it passed diagnostic and some say it has 2.1 issues. I’d go with mono price or belkin that claims 48gbps if you don’t have a way to test. Are you using a 2.1 receiver or direct to tv?
HDMI from ps5 to new TV. Only setting it up tomorrow
 

Con-Z-epT

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They are all digital. You’re thinking maybe fiber vs copper? The difference is in the designation and even that is based on a spread. It’s best to focus on bandwidth within each protocol. So, hdmi 2.1 can be as low as 18gbps i think or as a high as say, 48gbps. The higher the bandwidth the better the cable and the least amount of issues that should arise.
HDMI carries a digital signal.
Usually with digital signals you either get the full signal or you simply don't get anything, you can't only get a partial amount of it, it's either 100% or 0%. So a $1000 cable is going to give you the same image as a $20 one.

Usually the more expensive cables (I'm talking the $30-50 range, not the ridiculous stuff I posted above) just have better build quality and should last longer before needing to be replaced, specially if you are going to be moving or plugging and unplugging it a lot (to connect different devices). But you won't be getting a better picture from them.
All HDMI cables are digital.
Ok i was wrong. Sorry...
And if you are talking about Fiber… the HDMI cables will start to lose signal after 50 feet when it is really needed to change to Fiber to reach longer distances.
At least i knew this one.
 

LordOfChaos

Member
It's a digital signal so there shouldn't be any difference at all, either the 0s and 1s get through or they don't.

This is a long believed internet "truth" but not exactly true

I Spent a THOUSAND Dollars on HDMI Cables.. for Science - YouTube

Whether that difference matters is another question, but the whole the signal either gets through or doesn't because digital thing is a myth. That said, Sony's is more than good enough, and this is particularly about the cheapest stuff on long cables.
 
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FrankWza

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HDMI from ps5 to new TV. Only setting it up tomorrow
Unless you need a longer cable the one included works. You can load up a game that runs 4K @ 120 and go to your tv diagnostics and it will tell you what you’re getting with the game on. If you go to your corrent output on the console it only shows what is available I believe.
 

Boss Mog

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This is a long believed internet "truth" but not exactly true

I Spent a THOUSAND Dollars on HDMI Cables.. for Science - YouTube

Whether that difference matters is another question, but the whole the signal either gets through or doesn't because digital thing is a myth. That said, Sony's is more than good enough, and this is particularly about the cheapest stuff on long cables.
Yeah except I never said anything about bandwidth. Obviously certain cables are classified at higher bandwidth and can therefor move more 0s and 1s per second than others which is required if you want more resolution and higher framerates, that's basic common sense. What I'm referring to is image quality when running at spec. As long as your cable can reliably operate at spec you'll get the same image no matter what you spend. Your video even points out that with jitter in digital signals the most likely outcome is complete loss of signal or at the very least huge artifacting. My point was if you get a clean crisp picture from a $15 cable, getting a $100 cable isn't going to make that picture any clearer or crisper.
 
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FrankWza

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Yeah except I never said anything about bandwidth. Obviously certain cables are classified at higher bandwidth and can therefor move more 0s and 1s per second than others which is required if you want more resolution and higher framerates, that's basic common sense. What I'm referring to is image quality when running at spec. As long as your cable can reliably operate at spec you'll get the same image no matter what you spend. Your video even points out that with jitter in digital signals the most likely outcome is complete loss of signal or at the very least huge artifacting. My point was if you get a clean crisp picture from a $15 cable, getting a $100 cable isn't going to make that picture any clearer or crisper.
I agree. But I’ve seen cables in the same price range offer more or less pop than another when similarly specced. Like one will have a higher contrast or appear brighter. Brand new cables with the same components and inputs used so the settings were identical. There’s some funky shit going on out there.
 

A.Romero

Member
I'm using the one that came with the PS5 and it works fine, no need to get another one unless you need a longer cable.
If you go over 3 meters I'd recommend looking into alternatives like boosters.
 
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