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What is going on with PS5 in Japan? Xbox Series came only a few hundreds units away from beating PS5 in weekly number
- Thread starter KingGhidorah
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TheTony316
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Not every gen. The PS4 launched in february 2014 in Japan.
TheTony316
Member
That happened already with the 360.
KingGhidorah
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360 did outsell the PS3 on occasions.
Microsoft Xbox 360 outsells PS3 in Japan in Sept
Microsoft Corp's Xbox 360 outsold Sony's PlayStation 3 in Japan in September, beating the rival machine in monthly unit sales for the first time in Sony's home market, a game magazine publisher said.www.reuters.com
360 already beaten PS3?? my bad......... I'm seriously disappointed now, I really thought we might see history in the next few weeks
KingGhidorah
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UK and Japan have weekly sales data, so I guess the subject will be talked weekly
Captain Toad
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There aren't unsold PS5s in Japan either. It's just limited supply.
Great Hair
Banned
Maybe they wanna build a ..
... and can´t do that with PS5s due the shape of Sony´s latest console.
Marty-McFly
Banned
People are acting like it wasn't common for Switch to outsell the PS4 by similar numbers in Japan as the holiday season approached.
Spitfire098
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Concerns
Spitfire098
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smbu2000
Member
Compared to the Xbox one generation the Series generation is doing fantastic so far.
X1: 100k sales in 4 and a half years
XSeries: 100k in less than a year
X1 lifetime sales: 114k (7.5 years)
XSeries has already passed that mark.
SlimeGooGoo
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MasterDerico
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Go woke and western, go broke!
Its not a troll, i think Sony really messed up with PS5. Japanese companies are mad with Sony, its not only "stock" problem.
Its not a troll, i think Sony really messed up with PS5. Japanese companies are mad with Sony, its not only "stock" problem.
MasterDerico
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Woopah
Member
Some previous examples of when Xbox outsold a PlayStation platform
Xbox One launch
Xbox One launch
- Xbox One 25,764
- Wii U 7,349
- PS4 7,299
- PS3 6,139
- Xbox 360 28,861
- Wii 27,057
- PS3 8,050
- Xbox 360: 25,334
- Wii 16,973
- PS3 16,149
- Xbox 360 15,742
- PS3 11,352
We get more data from Japan, UK and Spain than anywhere else. That's why
Astral Dog
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i feel like there have been many sales threads and comments asking the same thing
Hezekiah
Banned
That's fine, but from a business perspective many Japanese gamers are buying games that are different from what's topping the charts elsewhere. The bulk of the games that are selling - are they going to sell in other markets?
The importance of the Japanese home console market is finishing year-after-year.
Woopah
Member
That key is rather than thinking "I need software that will sell well in the West" or "I need software that will sell well in the East", is to think "I need software that will sell well globally". That's the path to success.
Hezekiah
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Yes but then you look at the Japanese top 40 and realise that's harder than it looks.
Like how many Western gamers want to play half of that wacky stuff. Yakuza, Final Fantasy, sure, maybe Persona or Monster Hunter. But some of the other stuff? Nah.
smbu2000
Member
It is laughable, but both ps5 and Xbox Series consoles are in extremely limited supply in Japan.
Woopah
Member
Japan has a perception for being into wacky stuff but its not really true. The stuff Japan wans to play is fairly similar to what the West wants to play. If we look the top 30 games from Japan last year:
001./000. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2020.03.20} (¥5.980) - 6.431.763 / NEW (1.716.527 <88,43%>)
002./009. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure # <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.10.18} (¥7.980) - 1.629.417 / 2.213.438 (+179%) (95.549 <65,06%>)
003./000. [NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu: Showa, Heisei, Reiwa mo Teiban! <TBL> (Konami) {2020.11.19} (¥6.300) - 1.597.530 / NEW (442.356 <77,79%>)
004./007. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980) - 993.616 / 3.676.466 (+46%) (284.823 <73,66%>)
005./000. [PS4] Final Fantasy VII Remake # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2020.04.10} (¥8.980) - 970.653 / NEW (688.442 <94,31%>)
006./002. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate # <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200) - 698.139 / 4.224.844 (-40%) (1.220.535 <68,52%>)
007./008. [NSW] Super Mario Party # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2018.10.05} (¥5.980) - 603.069 / 2.028.666 (+3%) (142.868 <55,95%>)
008./000. [NSW] Super Mario 3D All-Stars <Super Mario 64 \ Super Mario Sunshine \ Super Mario Galaxy> <ACT> (Nintendo) {2020.09.18} (¥6.480) - 574.110 / NEW (234.730 <42,94%>)
009./010. [NSW] Minecraft # <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600) - 552.390 / 1.571.913 (+8%) (61.764 <39,31%>)
010./000. [NSW] Clubhouse Games: 51 Worldwide Classics <ETC> (Nintendo) {2020.06.05} (¥3.980) - 552.319 / NEW (64.204 <83,55%>)
011./001. [NSW] Pokemon Sword # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15} (¥5.980) - 545.108 / 1.851.319 (-58%) (534.306 <84,96%>)
012./000. [NSW] Pikmin 3 Deluxe <ACT> (Nintendo) {2020.10.30} (¥5.980) - 532.189 / NEW (171.106 <57,93%>)
013./015. [NSW] Splatoon 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} (¥5.980) - 493.963 / 3.719.467 (+28%) (648.085 <65,10%>)
014./000. [PS4] Ghost of Tsushima <ADV> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2020.07.17} (¥6.900) - 473.612 / NEW (211.206 <95,23%>)
015./003. [NSW] Pokemon Shield # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15} (¥5.980) - 378.602 / 1.242.756 (-56%) (359.817 <90,26%>)
016./000. [NSW] Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2020.11.20} (¥7.200) - 334.178 / NEW (171.000 <60,71%>)
017./120. [NSW] Dr. Kawashima's Brain Training for Nintendo Switch <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.12.27} (¥3.480) - 317.478 / 351.414 (+836%) (33.936 <17,95%>)
018./000. [NSW] Paper Mario: The Origami King <ADV> (Nintendo) {2020.07.17} (¥5.980) - 314.129 / NEW (109.724 <46,99%>)
019./000. [NSW] eBaseball Powerful Pro Baseball 2020 <SPT> (Konami) {2020.07.09} (¥6.980) - 312.878 / NEW (112.878 <65,73%>)
020./000. [NSW] Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Rescue Team DX <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2020.03.06} (¥5.980) - 281.908 / NEW (130.510 <66,36%>)
021./017. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥6.980) - 279.662 / 1.872.585 (-24%) (186.379 <68,11%>)
022./004. [NSW] Super Mario Maker 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.06.28} (¥5.980) - 275.551 / 1.124.915 (-68%) (194.814 <42,60%>)
023./006. [NSW] New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe <New Super Mario Bros. U \ New Super Luigi U> <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.01.11} (¥5.980) - 266.403 / 1.052.498 (-66%) (166.303 <52,53%>)
024./000. [PS4] Yakuza: Like a Dragon <RPG> (Sega) {2020.01.16} (¥8.390) - 261.711 / NEW (160.671 <88,67%>)
025./011. [NSW] Luigi's Mansion 3 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.10.31} (¥5.980) - 256.845 / 768.231 (-50%) (140.165 <51,46%>)
026./000. [PS4] Resident Evil 3 # <ADV> (Capcom) {2020.04.03} (¥7.800) - 253.532 / NEW (184.229 <83,57%>)
027./000. [PS4] The Last of Us Part II # <ADV> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2020.06.19} (¥6.900) - 239.598 / NEW (177.854 <79,90%>)
028./018. [NSW] Fishing Spirits: Nintendo Switch Version # <SPT> (Bandai Namco Entertainment) {2019.07.25} (¥5.700) - 217.454 / 543.572 (-33%) (49.055 <72,76%>)
029./036. [NSW] Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games: Tokyo 2020 <SPT> (Sega) {2019.11.01} (¥5.990) - 200.537 / 363.581 (+23%) (16.316 <8,25%>)
030./000. [PS4] Mobile Suit Gundam: Extreme Vs. MaxiBoost On # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Entertainment) {2020.07.30} (¥8.200) - 191.082 / NEW (126.282 <76,94%>)
Then I'd split it out as the below:
Only released in Japan: 3 - Fishing Spirits (based on a Japanese arcade game) eBaseball Powerful Pro Baseball 2020 (based on a Japanese sports league) and Momotaro Dentetsu: Showa, Heisei, Reiwa mo Teiban!
Only sold well in Japan: 3 - Mobile Suit Gundam: Extreme Vs. MaxiBoost On, Dr. Kawashima's Brain Training for Nintendo Switch (not released in the US) and Pikmin 3 Deluxe
Sold well in Japan and the West: The other 24 games
So its not that Japan is into stuff the West isn't into. its that the West is into stuff Japan isn't into.
Kokoloko85
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I thought maybe you were perma banned within the neogaf purge
SlimeGooGoo
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Doesn't really seem to be impacting thier bottom line this fy
Bryank75
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Azelover
Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
Bryank75
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Yup, you don't just surrender hard won market share...
It's just been a marathon of asking for more money and losing exclusives, losing 3rd party games (Zenimax etc) and abandoning fans and regions... accompanies by bad communications and gaffe after gaffe from Jim.
Mostly crap acquisitions.... Housemarque was okay to decent and Bluepoint was good but the rest were crap.
Why did they not get Psionix before Epic? and then go on to pay loads to build Destruction Allstars....a flopzilla of a flop.
Why did they stop making Singstar, which appealed to girls and families? Why didn't they buy Harmonix and get band games out there again....they own the biggest publisher of music with the biggest catalog in the world...
Why did they stop making F1 games years ago and let Codemasters get the license?
Where were they when From and Atlus were for sale?
It seems that Sony really have their head up their ass in terms of business management.... they are asleep at the wheel.
The hardware and game devs do their job...but that is it.... the rest is squandered.
HarryKS
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This is not how supply chains work.
Tschumi
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Thread title should be charged to "both series consoles together" -_-
I live in Japan, there is a sense that the only way you'll get a PS5 is from a scalper. There's not enough supply.
Don't forget Japan has almost 100m people and they're mostly middle class or higher, they've got tons of disposable income and like to buy things like PSs and switches... RRP PS5s just don't exist in the wild at the moment.
Thread title should be charged to "both series consoles together" -_-
I live in Japan, there is a sense that the only way you'll get a PS5 is from a scalper. There's not enough supply.
Don't forget Japan has almost 100m people and they're mostly middle class or higher, they've got tons of disposable income and like to buy things like PSs and switches... RRP PS5s just don't exist in the wild at the moment.
DeceptiveAlarm
Gold Member
Probably got a bunch of those $10 series s bundles.
Hezekiah
Banned
Not sure I agree with that.
There are a few games I've never heard of there. But also there are a lot of big Western franchises that don't sell anywhere near as well over there as they do here - BF, CoD, Red Dead, AC, Far Cry, Uncharted, God of War etc.
Also bear in mind that many people here keep the Switch as a secondary console, over there mobile/portable gaming seems much more popular.
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They cant give up what they never had to start with
iPhone is more popular than all of PlayStations hardware combined in gaming revenue and profits. Notice how many times you brought phone vs Switch when discussing about Switch market domination while you're leaving PlayStation against phone when discussing about its sales.
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Hezekiah
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And all Playsation hardware is more popular than Nintendo hardware - it's why three Playstation consoles voted in the top five of all-time at the GJ awards the other week, and one Nintendo console.
There's no need to act triggered because about it though
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Woopah
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Apart from the ones that weren't localised, how many of that list have you not heard of and which were they?
In terms of Western franchises you are agreeing with exactly what I said. The West is into stuff Japan isn't into.
Mobile phone gaming is popular everywhere. It isn't a Japanese specific phenomenon and it doesn't really help the Switch in anyway apart in pushing foreward technology. Someone owning a phone doesn't make the Switch secondary just like someone owning a Switch doesn't make that a phone secondary. They are different devices.
Hezekiah
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Err yeah and Japan is into stuff the West isnt into - otherwise why would some games not see release here. Railway sims sell well there, obscure 'board games'. They just have fundamentally very different tastes. And the west likes certain games more too, look at the FPS genre for example.
And I never said mobile gaming wasn't popular everywhere....
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Using GJ awards(British) as a barometerAnd all Playsation hardware is more popular than Nintendo hardware - it's why three Playstation consoles voted in the top five of all-time at the GJ awards the other week, and one Nintendo console.
There's no need to act triggered because about it though
Fortunately we have this.
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Woopah
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Momotaro is the outlier though. The vast majority of games that sell in Japan also sell in the West. They don't buy some of the franchises that are big in the West, but what Japan likes the West also likes.
Sorry if I misunderstood, what did you mean by "over there mobile/portable gaming seems much more popular."
Marty-McFly
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That was an internal record for Sony as well.
Goes to show Nintendo's clout in this business.
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Said by someone who's always crying about mobile phones when talking about Nintendo Switch domination.
Hezekiah
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You're getting upset, and ignoring the fact that I said "over there mobile/portable gaming seems much more popular".
No grown-up (assuming you are one of course) should be acting that fragile over such a simple statement
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Edgelord79
Gold Member
Concern about who is in 4th place. This is what its come to now.
A Rifter in Space
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I wouldn't doubt it's because the PS5 has no real games the japanese are into and none that aren't just walking sims or degenerate agitprop about subverting expectations.
Funny when you're the one who acting up as one while giving out false information about market situations and calling other as immature.You're getting upset, and ignoring the fact that I said "over there mobile/portable gaming seems much more popular".
No grown-up (assuming you are one of course) should be acting that fragile over such a simple statement
Also Phone isn't only popular in Japan but also the whole world if you're still unaware.
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