Iced Arcade
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Wouldn't be at all shocked if it was held back and used as marketing. "Season 2, the arbitrator returns"
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Halo: Infinite - No Co-op or Forge at launch
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Silent Viper
Banned
Calm down. It will be launched after 2-3months. Its not like u will create anything in forge. Polished campaign and multiplayer is more important.
Silent Viper
Banned
Tr
Trolls and Sony fanboys will use it to bash Halo infinite but real sensible mature fans wont mind waiting for coop. I always play Halo solo first then try coop later on Legendary.
93xfan
Banned
What if it comes to GAME pass?
JackNightblade
Member
i really dont get this mentality. just play mp for a few months. just sounds like people being petty. unless you are seriously only getting halo for the 6 hour campaign
Fess
Member
Nobody should be surprised if Halo will get a bunch of 7/10 scores because of this, which will paint it as an average game for the eternity even if they update it in a few months.
Lots of people still think Sea of Thieves is an average game because of this:
Critics only rate the day 0 version, they don't know what to do with GaaS games yet, they never return for a second review after an update so the day 0 state is still the most important period in a game's life.
And yes, reviews matters, especially in combination with angry fans which we clearly see will happen here. A snowball of negativity is difficult to stop.
They should delay it.
Let Call of Duty and Battlefield fight it out this year. Release it in March 2022.
Lots of people still think Sea of Thieves is an average game because of this:
Critics only rate the day 0 version, they don't know what to do with GaaS games yet, they never return for a second review after an update so the day 0 state is still the most important period in a game's life.
And yes, reviews matters, especially in combination with angry fans which we clearly see will happen here. A snowball of negativity is difficult to stop.
They should delay it.
Let Call of Duty and Battlefield fight it out this year. Release it in March 2022.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Definitely with the people that think some of the reasoning outside of covid is gamepass / free to play related.
Yes, I am sure that they decided to focus on single-player improvements after the gameplay response and due to covid and people not being in the office this will have been a nightmare but I also can get behind that they thought these drops of content will bring people back to boost MAUs etc.
Yes, I am sure that they decided to focus on single-player improvements after the gameplay response and due to covid and people not being in the office this will have been a nightmare but I also can get behind that they thought these drops of content will bring people back to boost MAUs etc.
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Gamerguy84
Member
I thought some outlets do end up changing their review. Specifically thinking about DriveClub here. I dont know about other games.Nobody should be surprised if Halo will get a bunch of 7/10 scores because of this, which will paint it as an average game for the eternity even if they update it in a few months.
Lots of people still think Sea of Thieves is an average game because of this:
Critics only rate the day 0 version, they don't know what to do with GaaS games yet, they never return for a second review after an update so the day 0 state is still the most important period in a game's life.
And yes, reviews matters, especially in combination with angry fans which we clearly see will happen here. A snowball of negativity is difficult to stop.
They should delay it.
Let Call of Duty and Battlefield fight it out this year. Release it in March 2022.
Its HALO though and ahould get some benefit.
Team Andromeda
Banned
Fab news . 4 player Co-Op killed the single-player mode in Halo 5
Team Andromeda
Banned
But Halo 5 had 4 player co-op and you yet you call it crap?
Fess
Member
Driveclub still have a 71 metascore so I don't think it matters unless everybody go back to re-review a game.
The harsh reality is that you can't wash away a bad launch state the way reviews work right now.
Steam can somewhat deal with GaaS games since you can see recent reviews, like No Man's Sky which is currently sitting at 89% in recent reviews. But it still has 69% as the all time score sitting there as an anchor, plus a low metascore at 71 with 96 critics reviews unless you look at the Beyond release which 9 critics reviewed and pushed up to 83.
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Elbow Identity Shallow
Member
Not sure how much those two modes matter to most people but co-op is pretty damn important for me so this really is a shame.
I think perhaps the most surprising thing about Halo Infinite for me is that if people didn't kick up such a fuss at the launch event the game would have been out for approaching a year now.
I think perhaps the most surprising thing about Halo Infinite for me is that if people didn't kick up such a fuss at the launch event the game would have been out for approaching a year now.
YukiOnna
Member
It depends on your needs and how you play Halo. For many, it matters a lot and they'll wait and also for many, it doesn't matter and they do it after or never. Both are valid, I think and I understand people who are genuinely frustrated by it.
Balducci30
Member
Wasn't with you till today, thought they understood after all the talk of splitscreen as co op leading up
Calverz
Member
Such an overreaction to anything halo related in this thread. It's ridiculous. Sony fanboys try and use it as a beating stick. People are desperate to see this game fail. Which is sad for the developers.
It's really not a big deal. I can't wait to play the campaign solo soon and the amazing MP.
It's really not a big deal. I can't wait to play the campaign solo soon and the amazing MP.
WalterSobchak
Member
No Forge at launch I get , but lack of co‐op is fucking lame and they should be embarrassed honestly.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Cannot be arsed to Google it, but didn't they say that this game is designed to last ten years. If that's the case, then expect them to keep adding to the campaign in order to keep you playing.
I'm actually all for this. All games should be free live service games in 2021. Give us the base game for free (well, with the GP sub price) then just keep adding more content at a small price. It means the game has more of a life and the Devs/publishers make more money. Win win for everyone.
Fess
Member
Come on it's not just Sony fans, some are literally affected by this and some are just tired of seeing yet another big release stumble on the finish line. You're just fine with this because it doesn't affect you, but the next time it might be the multiplayer or campaign that gets delayed. It's time devs stop doing these "We'll fix it later" releases.
And why is it so important to release it in 2021 anyway?
Calverz
Member
Look at how much content this game will have and how many variations of the game need to launch. Throw in a global pandemic and delays are bound to happen. I'd much rather the solo campaign and multiplayer launched this year than delay the entire game to add in these features.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Why? What is the incentive for the publisher to do it that way (i.e.: full base game of old plus big DLC's in a GaaS game given away for free as part of a wider subscription service)?
If this is the model that succeeds I am not sure why they would give you the full base game and not a smaller version, a more cut down MVP earlier, support subscription engagement, and then only complete the rest of the game if it catches on and do it over several quarters. You start making money earlier and it costs way less than developing the full base game of old and years of content expansions on top of that.
Just like microtransactions took free modes and addons games use to give away for free and monetised them. Free to play (subscription based) GaaS games make sense to be designed to be split in smaller episodes that connect to each other… it is not surprising, it is adapting to the model… same as Netflix and Amazon Prime or Disney+ developing tons of many episodes based interconnected series instead of tops of 2 hours and a half isolated movies.
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Fess
Member
It's not making the game worse, with a delay they have more time to polish up the solo campaign and multiplayer as well, maybe they don't need to patch it up after launch like every other dev does now.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Also there is the case that can be made at some point axing the previous generation versions the more they sell XSX|S consoles…
Cutty Flam
Banned
Appreciate the response bro, it was a very soothing and ensuring one that calmed me down some. Seeing those dirty milkers in your avi helped a little too.
I'm going to hope what you're saying is correct because I'm not sure how the design and development goes but leaving out Forge mode is a huge, huge disappointment to me. There's nothing like carefully crafting and pouring in thought and creativity in to a map you want to bring to the table for others to play on and have fun with. I'm hoping they will allow for players to create a Big Team Battle CTF type map because in Halo 4 I tried to do that and there wasn't an easy way to get the result you wanted. I think it actually wasn't built for CTF centered creations because I never was able to get 1Flag and 2Flag and Neutral Flag working. That's going to be the best if they can create an excellent Forge mode for the fans. 6 months for Forge is a long time. Hopefully everything goes well, I want this game to be a massive success but man is it looking shaky. I have no idea what will happen with this game and the future of Halo tbh but I hope the gameplay and the community grows stronger and larger than ever before
It would be great if the community can return to the glory days of Halo 2 and Halo 3 with Halo: infinite. Who knows if it will happen though
Calverz
Member
They were quoted as saying it will be a live game that could last 10 years. They are going to continue to update the game going forward. It's not like they have cancelled the features.
Fess
Member
They won't rebuild the game for only Series consoles and PC at this point so I don't see a problem with the XB1 version.
But the talk is real, on all boards, and the negativity snowball is rolling. It's a real bummer after the positive multiplayer talk. Going by past situations Microsoft are listening to the community, so we'll see what they're doing. Maybe they can get all their studios to come in and collaborate and get the content in before launch.
Negotiator101
Member
Just wondering if anyone could make a gif of the off screen footage from the campaign.
Negotiator101
Member
It's releasing 2021 mate, what you talking about?Klobrille with ridiculous bad hit rate.
MrLove
Banned
Only half the game
Campaign + multiplayer = half the game now?
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Negotiator101
Member
Stop talking nonsense, how is Forge and co-op half the game? Co-op missing is something I'll miss but as long as the campaign is polished I can wait. Forge is more for the hardcore.
II_JumPeR_I
Member
Told you all, this clown knows nothing.Klobrille with ridiculous bad hit rate.
the_master
Wants his tomb raided
This means that the game is not ready, by far.
They are cutting co op, after they promised it, to release it later, to try to get time to fix up the rest of the game.
It will be buggy and unpolished.
And again. They should have delayed it 2 years, not 1, and they should have changed a lot of people
They are cutting co op, after they promised it, to release it later, to try to get time to fix up the rest of the game.
It will be buggy and unpolished.
And again. They should have delayed it 2 years, not 1, and they should have changed a lot of people
Gameplaylover
Member
So singlpelayer games are always only 25% of a real game by your logic?
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High Prophet of Regret
Member
Disappointing.
Vognerful
Member
balls of snow
Member
Halo deserved better. A showpiece story mission, an open beta and the complete package akin to Halo 3 should be the bare minimum. Smh ms, youre lucky you have Bethesda now.
Schmick
Member
Its only a few months! Its like listening to my kids.
343 could delay the whole game but why, when campaign and MP is good to go.
The Ascent has coop but its a buggy mess... which is damn frustrating would rather that be delayed.
Lets get it right the first time. When its ready its ready.
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CuteFaceJay
Member
First impressions count. When Halo 3 released with all this stuff back in 07 there is no reason for infinite to come out in peace meal.
Delay the game PLEASE! Put it out when it's READY!
Delay the game PLEASE! Put it out when it's READY!
Bernd Lauert
Banned
I get away with zero trolling because I basically never troll. My avatar can't hurt you (she might eat you though).It's amazing how much trollingBernd Lauert gets away with. He's obsessed with PlayStation fans.
The fact that keeps acting like a victim of "PS fanboy" persecution every time there's negative Xbox news is hilariously hypocritical.