coffinbirth
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Cool story.
Enjoy not playing the actual game.
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Halo: Infinite - No Co-op or Forge at launch
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Enjoy not playing the actual game.
Leyasu
Banned
Your either trolling or an idiot
MatrixReloaded101
Member
Making this game free to play was a smart move especially with no foge or Co-op at launch.
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Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
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Conspiracy that the game is being chunked in seasonal updates to keep you subscribed.
Even though it makes no sense to stay subscribed for 3 months if you care about co op campaign only.. and then another 3 for forge.
R6Rider
Gold Member
coffinbirth
Member
I did too, and yeah....IT NEEDS POLISH, which directly contradicts your previous statement. Now, apply that logic to a campaign that is bigger than Halo 4&5 combined and tell me you think this will ship "polished" as you suggested with a straight face.
I love Halo, and I agree with "All round horrendous takes from some big babies in this thread" but you are going in the opposite direction by suggesting that the campaign won't be...generously speaking, unpolished.
SidViscous
Member
Great, so now I have to be disappointed all by myself?
Why did they not decide to cut this back when they delayed the game for a year? how do you delay a game three times and still fail to deliver the basics? Microsofts handling of 343i's ineptitude is making the Afghan evacuation look like a fucking masterclass in planning.
Why did they not decide to cut this back when they delayed the game for a year? how do you delay a game three times and still fail to deliver the basics? Microsofts handling of 343i's ineptitude is making the Afghan evacuation look like a fucking masterclass in planning.
Yoboman
Member
Damn bro I liked the pre edit version where you just said I was trolling
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
if the shoe fits
coffinbirth
Member
I mean, just by virtue of the platforms it's available on that is true.
Casuals largely don't buy Xbox consoles, I think that has been proven more times than not.
Do you think there are casuals out there with gaming rigs playing Halo 3 right now?
Yoboman
Member
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
More like its used by gaffers as a scape goat literally for sub optimal conditions or reviews as means of justification. i guess you dont read those comments thoughStuart360
so many games get released broken or unfinished these days, no one is immune. Gamepass has nothing to do with that.
Magnific0giganticus
Banned
What were they going to launch last year, I wonder? The Beta they recently released full of bugs and way worse graphics? Fast forward a year and no date, and already announcing it's launching (whenever that is) in an incomplete state. Is that how Phil manages their flagship IP and main internal team?
R6Rider
Gold Member
I think they showed a few cutscenes.
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Sleepwalker
Member
No coop is a real bummer, I get why they wouldn't have split screen if they can't make it run well enough, but there's no excuse for not having coop online campaign.
Also no excuse for multiplayer in the halo MCC being cross platform with PC but not the campaign. /rant over
Also no excuse for multiplayer in the halo MCC being cross platform with PC but not the campaign. /rant over
Gravemind
Member
Couldn't really care less about Co-Op, so that aspect doesn't bother me. Forge being delayed sucks, but if it ends up being a much more advanced and complex iteration than what we've seen before, then so be it.
Would rather the focus be on delivering a polished campaign and multiplayer experience right now anyway.
Would rather the focus be on delivering a polished campaign and multiplayer experience right now anyway.
ozz ex machina
Member
Maybe I'm a bit too optmistic. But from my perspective MS really don't lose much if they push campaign back until spring and just launch the MP this holiday. The fact they aren't makes me think they are confident in the product.
Wow is that it after the appalling campaign showing they still haven't shown a proper gameplay walkthrough again. To me it seems like they are not confident with the campaign. Perhaps they will show it at Gamescom event if not then I'm having doubts they improved much.
kyoji
Member
Thanks for proving my point, i guess you didn't see all the posts in previous threads where its mentioned as means of a justification either then?
So as to say "oh its ok its on gamepass, at least i didnt pay full price to own it, so this is acceptable" why mention Game Pass unsolicited for those games and now it has no bearing for this one.
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Strider Highwind
Banned
Pretty disappointing.
coffinbirth
Member
My take is that the internet would burn them down if they delayed campaign again, regardless of it's state at launch, so it's hell or high water for them.
AGeraltFellFromRoof
Member
No coop means I'm not going to play campaign right away, I'll stick to MP then.
BigLee74
Member
I see the trolls and entitled are out, acting as if coop is never coming.
Suck it up, princesses! You could enjoy the campaign and MP in the meantime with the rest of us, or wait a measly 3 months and buy it then, or be huffy and don't buy the game at all and cut off your nose to spite your face.
Suck it up, princesses! You could enjoy the campaign and MP in the meantime with the rest of us, or wait a measly 3 months and buy it then, or be huffy and don't buy the game at all and cut off your nose to spite your face.
VolticArchangel
Member
It sure is disappointing, but not the end of the world. I just won't play the campaign till co-op's in. Only the multiplayer till then.
Halo campaigns are usually best enjoyed with friends in co-op, even for the first time.
Also, I just want to earn as much achievements in one playthrough as possible. What I do for Halo campaigns usually is just play on Legendary solo for it's achievement (stackable for recruit, normal and heroic) and play 4-player co-op on Heroic to earn all campaign, difficulty and co-op achievements. Just 2 playthroughs covering all SP content, and remaining random achievements like "xxx kills using *** weapon", collecting skulls, secret terminals etc. It's just only multiplayer for me after that, for the entirety of the game's lifespan till the servers are shutdown.
The vast majority of Halo customers buy the game for it's multiplayer, not campaign or any other aspect. It's the franchise USP. The multiplayer, which is being offered as a standalone F2P game with Halo Infinite's launch (like Fortnite), and now F2P does not require a Xbox Live Gold subscription on all Xbox consoles, just like Playstation consoles don't require an active PS+ for F2P games.
How would Microsoft even remotely gain or "maintain" their existing gamepass subscriptions, for a F2P game?
Halo campaigns are usually best enjoyed with friends in co-op, even for the first time.
Also, I just want to earn as much achievements in one playthrough as possible. What I do for Halo campaigns usually is just play on Legendary solo for it's achievement (stackable for recruit, normal and heroic) and play 4-player co-op on Heroic to earn all campaign, difficulty and co-op achievements. Just 2 playthroughs covering all SP content, and remaining random achievements like "xxx kills using *** weapon", collecting skulls, secret terminals etc. It's just only multiplayer for me after that, for the entirety of the game's lifespan till the servers are shutdown.
The vast majority of Halo customers buy the game for it's multiplayer, not campaign or any other aspect. It's the franchise USP. The multiplayer, which is being offered as a standalone F2P game with Halo Infinite's launch (like Fortnite), and now F2P does not require a Xbox Live Gold subscription on all Xbox consoles, just like Playstation consoles don't require an active PS+ for F2P games.
How would Microsoft even remotely gain or "maintain" their existing gamepass subscriptions, for a F2P game?
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coffinbirth
Member
I think broken and/or buggy games on Game Pass seem even less likely than normal releases as these games are being curated and presumably previewed and/or reviewed before a deal is ever made.Thanks for proving my point, i guess you didn't see all the posts in previous threads where its mentioned as means of a justification either then?
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Pass at launch(will play the free pvp though)and I hope they price this right.
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
Thanks for proving my point, i guess you didn't see all the posts in previous threads where its mentioned as means of a justification either then?
How?
Borked games are not acceptable anywhere, a dropped feature how ever does not equal a broken game. I guess if you were going to buy a game and it was busted but you got it on gamepass you would be happy ya dodge that bullet but that's about it.
Personally the value of gamepass for me are all the games I would never buy being there so I can try them. I would have bought a big game like Halo either way.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Another game released incomplete. Brillant. The game probably has a 500 million dollar budget and they still can't get it done. Awful.
This plus the fact that they have failed to give updates on the single player campaign could mean that the only thing they're confident to release this year is just the multiplayer f2p mode.
Quite frankly 343i should be put under review by MS after this game is released. They're either not competent for the task or really mismanaged.
Quite frankly 343i should be put under review by MS after this game is released. They're either not competent for the task or really mismanaged.
Krappadizzle
Member
Bummer. I'll buy it when coop drops. Not too fussed. Been a long time since Halo 5, I can wait a little longer
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The co-op thing is a bummer but in some sense means you can rip through campaign stuff your own pace initially, then do a play through with a friend later when it's ready. Ultimately, campaign isn't what keeps the community healthy.
The big problem here is lack of Forge for the first six months. Forge for Halo 3 kept the community engaged while we waited for new maps to come out. It meant that the community could both make crazy maps to share with each other, or make slight tweaks to things like weapon placement and spawn to improve what bungie had offered up at launch. There's a strong chance you could see a significant portion of players drop off before forge even arrives, and with new BFs and CODs lunching at the same time, you may not be able to draw them back.
The big problem here is lack of Forge for the first six months. Forge for Halo 3 kept the community engaged while we waited for new maps to come out. It meant that the community could both make crazy maps to share with each other, or make slight tweaks to things like weapon placement and spawn to improve what bungie had offered up at launch. There's a strong chance you could see a significant portion of players drop off before forge even arrives, and with new BFs and CODs lunching at the same time, you may not be able to draw them back.
Captain Toad
Banned
LMAO
Bernd Lauert
Banned
It's drive-by anti-Gamepass shitposting by the Sony crew. Business as usual
supernova8
Banned
and it still looks shit visually. I mean, what have they been doing for 5 years? It literally looks like the same game as Halo 5. They probably could've pimped out Halo 5 to 8K with ray tracing and it would look better, and would've taken less time.
edit: before anyone accuses me of "Sony crew drive-by shitposting", point me to a Sony game that has the same issue and I'll happily do the exact same thing. I'm a universal shitposter.
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kyoji
Member
It's drive-by anti-Gamepass shitposting by the Sony crew. Business as usual
Lack of self awareness, you hate to see it
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