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Muckraking Tabloid Journalist Jason Schreier upset at a new game studio "Lacking Diversity in 2021"

Panajev2001a

GAF's Pleasant Genius
Diversity for people like him boiles down to color, gender… what about actual diversity of thought? Are they being racists/sexists by assuming colored/lgbtqia+ people can’t think in a different way they believe it should be?
That is the materialistic or some call Marxist part of it where you are a product of the environment and of victims vs abusers patters society is based on (victims, abusers, saviours) so to have true diversity of thoughts you need diversity of backgrounds.
 

ZywyPL

Banned
The tweet from the rainbow imbecile is infuriating.

Did he and his diverse team even developed something good?!

Well looking at their team:

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I highly doubt they'll ever make anything that's not targeting 8yo kids and their moms.
 

GymWolf

Member
The daft thing is, this is now happening out in the world, the place i work has now hired a group of people to ‘help with diversity in the workplace’ as they are saying there isnt enough women or lbgt etc compared to males and they need to change that by 2030 where there a equal split, theres a man being doing a temp job there for last 10yrs and they officially boarded the job and hes lost out to female whos never worked here and apparently hasnt got a clue how the buisness works, my nephew applied for a apprenticeship and never got a interview yet he also applied but altered his name and changed his sex to female and got offered a interview right away. Gone are the days where people get a job or promotion for there ability and what they can do
To save my brain sanity i still think that diverse hiring instead of talent hiring is still a rare thing and majority of companies actually want to make money with the best team possible.
 

GymWolf

Member
That is the materialistic or some call Marxist part of it where you are a product of the environment and of victims vs abusers patters society is based on (victims, abusers, saviours) so to have true diversity of thoughts you need diversity of backgrounds.
You can achieve diversity of background with same skin colored individuals.

Thinking otherwise is more racist than people having only white dudes in their studios.

You don't need to be black or yellow to suffer poverty, fighting struggles in life or just having different taste\ideas.

The narrative that a black guy must have a different background then a white guy just because he is black, is moronic to even say at loud.
 

sircaw

Banned
The sad thing about this is, our opinions on this forum will be met with hate and condemnation, while schreier rakes in the praise from the so-called "woke media and news outlets"

Everyone is terrified to make a fucking stand against the kind of shit he is doing.

His, i will just ban anyone, says it all really. He's playing the game so well.

It's a sad world.
 
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Papacheeks

Banned
Fuck these fucking soy clowns, man.

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BRB, slashing my wrists with a chainsaw.

You know its weird that people like Mitch Dyer, Jason Schrier call out a small studio who was founded with original people who had an idea? So any small studio that doesnt have diversity automatically are pieces of shit and part of the problem, regardless of how great the work environment is, no crunch?

Like I'm all for there being people being hired fairly based on their skills not the ethnicity or gender. And it looks like here the old studio team moved to a new studio. Also would be nice to interview the woman that works there of what the studio is like.

Context is everything, you cant just automatically judge someone/studio based on a pic, and not at least know that they are all the original team members from previous small studio. SO if the studio had not sent out a pic? Would there be outrage Jason/Mitch?

You seem outraged by an image.
 

Boss Mog

Member
He doesnt give up


Why would he even interact with this douchebag? I would just ignore him. The opinions of degenerate male feminists are irrelevant.

What the fuck is he on about feeling "safe"? Does he think straight white men are automatically going to punch him? Then again, after looking at the guy's picture, he does have a face you wanna punch... but in all seriousness, these people are obviously mentally ill, they speak of "not feeling safe" if there's too many white guys even if all of them are good people, meanwhile if you, as a normal person, complain about actually "not feeling safe" when you go out in the street because violent crime is out of control and the police is being defunded, you're the problem in their eyes. And like Bernd Lauert Bernd Lauert said even in a work environment, the normal people are the ones that don't feel safe because they need to constantly watch what they say lest it be seen as a microagression of some sort and get them fired and harassed on twitter (like this douchebag is doing right now).
 

Umbasaborne

Banned
Fuck these people are disgusting, they're the internet equivalent of some asshole trying to bait you into punching him out so he can scream OMG HE HIT ME! DID YOU ALL SEE???
I agree. Fucking vultures looking for the next high horse they they can climb up. Im liberal, i think diversity and inclusion are important, but these people are so fucking fake its ridiculous, Putting a start up on blast for some woke brownie points. If they really cared they would have reached out privatley to them to ask for clarification as to why they don't have more women, not immediatley gone to twitter to publicly shame them.
 

Panajev2001a

GAF's Pleasant Genius
You can achieve diversity of background with same skin colored individuals.

Thinking otherwise is more racist than people having only white dudes in their studios.

You don't need to be black or yellow to suffer poverty, fighting struggles in life or just having different taste\ideas.

The narrative that a black guy must have a different background then a white guy just because he is black, is moronic to even say at loud.
I am not really disagreeing, but being aware and thinking about the other’s viewpoint is never unhelpful. The problem is that what some
People are doing is fanning the flames where there is a kernel of logic / truth which is what makes it easier for them to apply a nasty label to those that oppose the arguments even logically.

The answer they would give you would be that your upbringing and the society around you will set expectations, influence you, and thus your heritage and your condition might imply the root diversity need of white vs PoC that is referenced… in countries where the “norm” is white for example. You can kind of invert this in other countries.
 

Majukun

Member
a studio should only care about getting the best people for the job.

if this implies a lack of diversity, they can care afterwards when they will have the money to worry about it.
 

Papacheeks

Banned
Also

Corrinne Yu worked for both Microsoft and Naughty Dog. Someone should ask her what her experiences are with diversity. But I doubt she would want to talk to jason.​

 

borborygmus

Member
Nope, their argument relies on people successfully being shamed, duopolies or effective monopolies which customers have accepted (read the article I linked to), and to have a direct war between zealot camps that if it results in curtailed freedom of speech laws / freedoms nets them a win regardless.

Anti SJW vs SJW is the scenario they are trying to create, but 🤷‍♂️.
That's not mutually exclusive with what I said. Their ideas continue to hold water in the public discourse at least in part because they are ascribed merit. It's certainly not helping to pretend people like Shreier actually have a moral basis for what they say. If non-SJWs like yourself keep on validating their ideas then the situation is hopeless. That is to say, if you genuinely believe that the so-called SJWs have a valid moral position, then frankly you've been played. If your only objection is the harassment they engage in, then you're missing all the other methods they use to infiltrate and socially engineer industries to follow their agenda. Shaming and creating division is certainly a big one, I will grant you, but that is far from being all they've been doing and I don't get why you would be so charitable towards everything else they stand for; and besides, the shaming only works because people think it has merit in the first place.
 
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Boss Mog

Member
I agree. Fucking vultures looking for the next high horse they they can climb up. Im liberal, i think diversity and inclusion are important, but these people are so fucking fake its ridiculous, Putting a start up on blast for some woke brownie points. If they really cared they would have reached out privatley to them to ask for clarification as to why they don't have more women, not immediatley gone to twitter to publicly shame them.
Yep and you know that all of these people live in the whitest neighborhoods. They want diversity for you but not for themselves apparently.
 
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That is the materialistic or some call Marxist part of it where you are a product of the environment and of victims vs abusers patters society is based on (victims, abusers, saviours) so to have true diversity of thoughts you need diversity of backgrounds.
This is only partially true, if you choose on ideological background you will get people who all agree, at least superficially (diverse Marxists?) Yet you will get your rainbow of skin color for the press.

Also, victim vs abusers can't be mapped on to skin color, or gender, not at a personal level. If anything abusers are more often than not close to their victims, which almost guarantee that they look the same.

And there is that idea that diversity is always a strength, sometimes you want cohesion, at least on some level people who are sharing a background will often share a set of assumptions, which can ease communication to some degree (I personally prefer working with people from different backgrounds, because there is fun in the exchanges you get out of this, however wokeness makes it less and less pleasing as honest / level conversation becomes unlikely given the dynamic it imposes).

Books exist on the subject, in short, I am not against diversity (real diversity), but I am firmly against how it's done now, that basically turned into hunt the white dudes, especially if they don't toe the line, they're all evil. The ideology itself does it in a kind of racist way, assuming that nobody from a victim group can do anything by themselves if the others don't "get out of the way" first, i.e. they are not good enough to get to the front?

But the most important thing is the practicality of the quotas everywhere approach, if there are few diverse candidates and the big corporations already got all the good ones to fill their quotas... What are the small businesses to do? And how small a group of white people has to be before it raises suspicion? 2? 5? 10? 15?

I prefer the days when a black/asian/latino person sitting beside me was not questionable, if that person is there it's because they're as good as me (or as bad as I am) we can interact on even ground.
 

TastyPastry

Member
The sad thing about this is, our opinions on this forum will be met with hate and condemnation, while schreier rakes in the praise from the so-called "woke media and news outlets"

Everyone is terrified to make a fucking stand against the kind of shit he is doing.

His, i will just ban anyone, says it all really. He's playing the game so well.

It's a sad world.

people need to stop being scared about standing up to these people. i mean where is it going to stop? we're now at a point where it's somehow morally wrong to be an indie studio of 20 white guys and posting a photo of the team online. if this was ubisoft and out of their 20.0000 employees only 10% were women or whatever, that's a completly different thing and worth thinking about but we are talking about a small indie studio with 20 people here. is it still okay for 5 people with white skin to work on something together or would that already be too close to a klan rally for schreier? the guys who made hotline miami were 2 (white) friends from sweden, should they be cancelled now too because no diversity?
 
Anti SJW vs SJW is the scenario they are trying to create, but 🤷‍♂️.
This is where you are playing the SJW/woke game. It's not like there was the woke on one side and the rest of humanity on the other (all racists?)

Whatever point you think you may agree with on the woke side, it's probably not really the case to begin with. Look at how they redefine words to mean different things, so they can say things that are understood as reasonable to get the buy-in from society... Then push further once they have authority.
 
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cormack12

Gold Member
At least he got his thread hug from the loons on era. Caught what he was fishing for, he's gonna rub that head furiously with a marigold now while fingering his ear and making chewbacca noises. The guy is fucking Kirk Van Houten

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They're all protective about mental health and all this shit until they want to hound and harass people right.
 

sircaw

Banned
people need to stop being scared about standing up to these people. i mean where is it going to stop? we're now at a point where it's somehow morally wrong to be an indie studio of 20 white guys and posting a photo of the team online. if this was ubisoft and out of their 20.0000 employees only 10% were women or whatever, that's a completly different thing and worth thinking about but we are talking about a small indie studio with 20 people here. is it still okay for 5 people with white skin to work on something together or would that already be too close to a klan rally for schreier? the guys who made hotline miami were 2 (white) friends from sweden, should they be cancelled now too because no diversity?
Totally agree,

I mean if i went for a heart op i want the best fucking team available for the job at hand. I don't care if it's six white dudes, six black dudes, 6 gay people, a person in a wheelchair or number 126 on the god damn gender scale.

It goes for everything in life, i want the best person for the job.

I just can not understand what this narrative is they are pushing, they are causing division in what he/they are doing.
 

Panajev2001a

GAF's Pleasant Genius
Totally agree,

I mean if i went for a heart op i want the best fucking team available for the job at hand. I don't care if it's six white dudes, six black dudes, 6 gay people, a person in a wheelchair or number 126 on the god damn gender scale.

It goes for everything in life, i want the best person for the job.

I just can not understand what this narrative is they are pushing, they are causing division in what he/they are doing.
The answer they give is that due to intersectional racism and sexism you are not getting enough competent candidates that are best for the job (they are not trained, they do not submit the CV, etc… systemic issues). Before rejecting it wholesale or in parts it helps to see how deep the rabbit hole goes IMHO.
 

ZywyPL

Banned
Can someone with a Twitter account ask Schreier who gave him the permission for cyberbullying and inciting others to do so? Because that's what his effectively doing. I would love to see his response on the subject, seeing how "concerned" he is how people in the industry are being treated in his articles, while being an oppressor himself. Seems like a hypocrite to me.
 
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nush

Member
He's playing the game so well.

He's not. He's living off past glories and playing to a captive audience who will clap and retweet anything that's custom made to fit their worldview.

No article this "Journalist" has written has ever broken through to mainstream media.
 

SaucyJack

Member
I agree. Fucking vultures looking for the next high horse they they can climb up. Im liberal, i think diversity and inclusion are important, but these people are so fucking fake its ridiculous, Putting a start up on blast for some woke brownie points. If they really cared they would have reached out privatley to them to ask for clarification as to why they don't have more women, not immediatley gone to twitter to publicly shame them.

Like asking them questions and stuff to find out what the story is?

Like, you know, journalism 😱
 

Needlecrash

Member
Another Black Man's Take #2.

I truly care about the end product here. Last thing I'm looking at is who's on your team. There's nothing wrong with Diversity. But when it's utilized as a weapon to possibly stifle other talent because you have to fulfill a quota? WE GOT A PROBLEM. Just hire based off of talent. Period. Most game developers in the west are Caucasian. And I know there are minorities in the game industry too. There may not be as much because hello, the gaming industry primarily white. I don't believe that gaming companies are excluding any non-white applicants at all. It just a matter of fact.

What I have an issue with the pandering mob. HIRE PEOPLE OF COLOR YOU FUCKING BIGOT. Congratulations! You're the new token black/woman/LGBTQIA hire! You're now the official token of diversity of your office! You're most likely fulfilling a quota and I hope you know what you're doing! If not, you're probably gonna still keep your job!

UMMMM.....NO. Hire based on ability and skill set. You can't code? You can't show me your portfolio? You ain't versed in Java, c++, Python? Then no.

I can go on and on about this. But, I'm just trying to illustrate a point. Hire everyone on the same merits, regardless of what you are or who you are. Hiring based off what you are race wise or whatever sexual orientation you are doesn't make a product better or worse. PERIOD.
 
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Arcadialane

Member
So what exactly is the next step solution here that they want? Think of it, they can either:

Fire one of them because they are white leaving them out of a job, but whore cares I guess they're white? and hire a diverse person. Or: When they next need hire somebody for a job make sure it's non whites only job position.
 
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