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[Bo_Hazem]

It makes perfect sense when u realize what culture those people operate in.

This is your issue.

That's... bad.

 

[MrPotato]

But movies/series as well don't make sense as well, The Walking Dead as well you only see Michonne that fits the lore perfectly. The argument is valid but it's a widespread problem because those devs and producers of games/movies don't seem to be socializing with people that bravely criticize them face-to-face instead of praising them all the time.

We criticized HZD for having bad-looking water and boring traversal, GG fixed that. It's not that devs don't like people criticizing them, but people need to come up with valid criticism and Aloy's face ain't it.

 

[Gravemind]

She looks like a chipmonk.

 

[Putonahappyface]

I can't bring myself to post it, but the Aloy McDonald's employee meme is evil lol.

 

[Touch fuzZy. get BizZay]

You don't understand, how "tone down female sexuality" is #taliban minded, did I get you right?

Oh okay, that adds a bit of context. I'm not really familiar with J-Law's black long dress incident, and Aloys not wearing a burkah or niqarb or anything so bringing up the taliban just seemed kinda random to me. The model's beauty isn't being covered up, her whole face is changed to be more of a Jimmy Olsen type. What I'm interested in here is how I don't like the graphics that everyone likes so much, because of how Horizon's astonishing technical achievements are somewhat hampered by questionable artistic and style choices like dumb costumes that don't look cool, Michael Bayesque dinobot monsters, and the now sufficiently meme-ified derpification of the lead character.

 

[THEAP99]

I still don't get it. She literally looks the exact same except more life-like and less like a plastic doll. "She is fat" Jesus christ people.

 

[MrPotato]

I still don't get it. She literally looks the exact same except more life-like and less like a plastic doll. "She is fat" Jesus christ people.

It's revenge for memeing Craig

 

[Pedro Motta]

She looks like a chipmonk.

Post a picture of your face, I’ll tell you which animal you look like.

 

[Touch fuzZy. get BizZay]

... thread

I mean...Just look at how detailed her facial animations are here! How can you not be impressed?

 

[Sinthor]

It's topics like this I remember why I need to take a break from gaming forums.

Oh the DRAMA!! Seriously, I don't see the big deal. Nobody's going nuts on this forum either. Now I HAVE seen some insanity on Reddit....but I only go to Reddit for brief entertainment usually. I'm afraid if I stay too long I might get contaminated with whatever it is making all those people CRAZY.

 

[Sinthor]

Maybe i'm dumb, but i don't understand why female protagonists must necessarily resemble Disney princesses.
I mean, if you need one in your life just go for the real thing.

The world is made up of pretty, average and ugly things, and i don't mean just the external appearance. I cannot imagine media that only show these idealized aspects and attitudes of our lives. People are defined not only by their own virtues, but also by their defects.

And it is not that we are deprived of attractive protagonists in games or movies, because it is an important element of creative vision that will always be there, for one reason or another. Let's not reduce every single artistic concept to this one aspect only.
Diversity in art is what provokes discussions and confronts points of view, makes shit more interesting. Even if it mainly boils down to mocking comments from fanboys, i'd rather take that than just pure admiration for a product so perfect in every respect that it leaves no room for futher discussion.

Good point in your last paragraph....discussion is good. If games are to be considered 'art' like TV and movies, then they will have criticism as well. That's fine.

Nobody's saying that protagonists need to resemble "Disney princesses," as you say. However, intentionally modifying a character due to a certain ideology or point of view is being looked down on by a lot of posters- IF that's in fact what this is. I don't see how saying that a character should look more like the actor or actress portraying that character is bad or a big deal. There are plenty of ways to maintain that 'realism' without such modifications.

Also, if we use the case that games will mirror TV and movies as 'art,' tell me....how many ugly people are starring on TV shows or movies these days again? Are those characters in movies and TV 'realistic?' Yeah, I think we all know the answer to that question. Because they are 'entertainment' they often represent the IDEALS of the human race rather than the reality. Now with games, we already have characters like Nathan Drake and Aloy that can tirelessly climb and jump up MOUNTAINS AND CLIFFS, regardless of grip and upper body strength ratios...then effortlessly aim rifles or guns immediately after with no shaking..... So how exactly is appearance the ONE THING that they'll make "realistic?" Is that really the hill we're going to die on when it comes to video games???

 

[Thirty7ven]

I'm pretty sure a real post apocalyptic feral woman would look way worse.

It's funny how you never hear women complaining that Mario games have a fat aging Italian main character.

Or how Marcus Fenix looks like Fred Durst started the wrong band.

 

[infinitys_7th]

This crap is hilarious. We seriously somehow need characters to pass these random people’s attractability test to be deemed “worthy” enough to play as. There’s literally people trying to petition the developers to change something so menial and stupid as her jawbones. People have truly gone insane.

It kinda makes me hope more game developers do this just to see how these people cope.

Edit: Also people are acting as if some how Aloy is now ugly (as if that would matter to anyone but themselves), when in fact she’s nowhere close. I honestly think these people are sexually frustrated that they might not find her as attractive now. That’s the funniest part.

Those aren't jawbones - those are jowls. Why would an athletic post-apocalyptic scavenger have jowls?

*JRPG's. Yup, that checks. Same head structure with very minor tweaks then cover it up with wacky style and haircuts.

You realize several of those are literally modeled off of western women, right?

 

[GHG]

 

[Bo_Hazem]

That Irish intro.

 

[infinitys_7th]

I don't think any of us want her to look like the fan-made pic in the original Tweet, but she looks noticeably different now vs in the first game and vs her model (who is pretty close to the first game although less built because, you know, post-apocalyptic scavenger), and the change doesn't make sense. She has a babyface now.

 

[Neolombax]

What's the issue? She looks fine?

 

[Sinthor]

Play a game that isn't boring as shit, then. And move away from area that lacks diversity and where people fuck their cousins if you're encountering so many uglies "every day".

An elitist who lives to quote stereotypes says...'Whaaat???"

 

[Sinthor]

Lol. Hey, whatever gets clicks and views, I guess. I still haven't seen anyone making a BIG DEAL about this besides the people crying foul that anyone would dare to comment on such a thing. Whatevs. Dude is right about one thing- this is definitely not a Sony issue, it's a Western Developers issue. Pandering to the ideology they want to convert everyone else to. Well, if they take it too far the market will speak and they'll lose sales. That's the correcting force, if needed, in this case. We'll see how it goes.

 

[Fake]

I've seeing people doing this all the bloody time and I'll never understand, I mean, the 'fiction char' argument including the GoW 3 creator.

One side ask you 'why do you care' because they're fiction char, no real, on the other hand they do care about people caring over 'fiction char', so my conclusion on this are people from both sides are dumb.


Its like 'I don't care about the face/body from the main char', but 'hey you shouldn't care too'. Is so fucking annoying. People telling how you must feel, think or behave. Modern people are dumb as fuck.

 

[Gravemind]

Post a picture of your face, I’ll tell you which animal you look like.

You seriously squirrel simping bro

 

[[Sigma]]

Gotta loves the way he laughs. Totally joker.

 

[Phase]

Aloy preparing for battle

But honestly, they just need to thin her cheeks out a bit and she'll look more like her original form.

 

[jonnyp]

Let's not kid ourselves, they made her a butterface. I don't care though, cannot wait to play it.

 

[llien]

I'm not really familiar with J-Law's black long dress incident, and Aloys not wearing a burkah or niqarb or anything so bringing up the taliban just seemed kinda random to me.

Oh, you poor soul.
Oppressing women who look hot and sexy, considering sexy looks (and normal sex in general) to be something bad that needs to be suppressed is totally not what #taliban does, right?
Ah, because "not burkah".
Now I'm getting it, I think.
Please remind me, how this lady (her name is "Skarlet" I was told) looked like... you know, earlier:

What I'm interested in here is how I don't like the graphics that everyone likes so much, because of how Horizon's astonishing technical achievements are somewhat hampered by questionable artistic and style choices like dumb costumes that don't look cool, Michael Bayesque dinobot monsters, and the now sufficiently meme-ified derpification of the lead character.

Thank you for outlining the points that non-garbage people are allowed to care about, enlightened one, I'll take that into account next time I react to things. Possibly.

 

[Corndog]

We criticized HZD for having bad-looking water and boring traversal, GG fixed that. It's not that devs don't like people criticizing them, but people need to come up with valid criticism and Aloy's face ain't it.

Who determines what’s valid criticism? Sounds like another forum.

 

[Coolwhhip]

Who determines what’s valid criticism? Sounds like another forum.

We need to do better.

 

[Touch fuzZy. get BizZay]

Thank you for outlining the points that non-garbage people are allowed to care about, enlightened one, I'll take that into account next time I react to things. Possibly.

As long as it's not the next time you over-react to things. You're really coming at me quite aggressively for someone who is confused about what you were on about rather than adamantly opposed to you.

 

[cormack12]

I realised this might be a phonetics issue. In Zero Dawn Aloy was a Nora, in this game, she is a 'gnawer'

 

[llien]

someone who is confused about what you were on about

People can disagree about things, but there is no need to be pussy about your own opinion.

 

[Strategize]

I mean I'd much rather smash Aloy than that meme tall vampire lady from RE8 weebs were thirsting for.

God that was a dumb fad, half of them were probably still trying to jack off while she was mid transformation, weirdos.

 

[UnNamed]

Who determines what’s valid criticism?

Criticism has to be objective, subject to analisys and evaluation. Otherwise it's just an opinion.

 

[Touch fuzZy. get BizZay]

People can disagree about things, but there is no need to be pussy about your own opinion.

And what is my opinion exactly? That the taliban didn't design the latest mortal kombat game? wtf

 

[Bo_Hazem]

I mean I'd much rather smash Aloy than that meme tall vampire lady from RE8 weebs were thirsting for.

God that was a dumb fad, half of them were probably still trying to jack off while she was mid transformation, weirdos.

Aloy looks prettier, but that tall vampire packs what really matters. So I vote for the vampire.

BatSu come here.

 

[llien]

That the taliban didn't design the latest mortal kombat game?

Because someone literally meant it was taliban designing it, Jesus, how pathetic could people go.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Because someone literally meant it was taliban designing it, Jesus, how pathetic could people go.

Looks like a ninja to me? Not familiar with MK new games, been a very long time since I played one.

 

[BatSu]

Bo_Hazem

I don't dare.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Bo_Hazem

I don't dare.

This is a meme thread, really. It only got serious few posts ago.

 

[BatSu]

 

[llien]

Looks like a ninja to me?

Yeah, possibly:

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Yeah, possibly:

How can you play with this character and win any fight?

Me

 

[Toots]

Sergent Burger Lardy Fat Club (sandwich) Band

 

[MAX PAYMENT]

I always thought aloy was intentionally a little weird looking. It looks like they pushed it a bit further.

 

[BatSu]

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Should've typed:"Who did this to your face!".

 

[The Chairman]

OH NO NO NO NO NO

 

[BatSu]

Should've typed:"Who did this to your face!".

 

[Bo_Hazem]

OH NO NO NO NO NO

She literally looks like Aloy's older sister. Or is that Aloy off season/bulking? Damn, Abby should watch out.

 

[Mister Wolf]

She literally looks like Aloy's older sister. Or is that Aloy off season/bulking? Damn, Abby should watch out.

 

[Banjo64]

OH NO NO NO NO NO

Average... reminds me of;