ChuckeRearmed
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Well you can always play on fridge via XCloud. But it will be hilarious when Playstation won't be able to use XCloud (because it doesn't have a browser lol), while fridge can because it runs on Android
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Microsoft is finally clarifying the situation regarding future Bethesda games
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Stop it.
supraman1120
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They clearly don't care about selling more individual games. They care about subscription attach rates for their platform ecosystem, which currently includes Xbox and PC. This is all about recurring revenue streams, a la Netflix/Disney+. These big acquisitions and spends are to drive the subscription base and nothing more.
You are legitimately delusional if you think major new releases are coming to ANY new console where GamePass is unavailable. Period.
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ManaByte
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Well you can always play on fridge via XCloud. But it will be hilarious when Playstation won't be able to use XCloud (because it doesn't have a browser lol), while fridge can because it runs on Android
XCloud doesn't use the browser.
Interfectum
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CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
Actually they confirmed they WON'T all be exclusive due to the 2 Sony moneyhats. They DID clarify new games that didn't have a moneyhat contract are exclusive to the Xbox ecosystem.
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SLB1904
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lmao
iJudged
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MEH, they can always come up with an emulator of sorts, i wasn't even trying to be funny TBH i am just sick of these salty assholes who refuse to invest in another platform just because, now they get to stfu and eat it...and something tells me this is just the beginning...Well you can always play on fridge via XCloud. But it will be hilarious when Playstation won't be able to use XCloud (because it doesn't have a browser lol), while fridge can because it runs on Android
Greedy MS has so much money, they literally have billions to lose and it's ok...they're going to keep buying intellectual property until game pass is a necessity
LazyParrot
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I dunno, him saying that the deal was all about providing exclusives to "platforms where Game Pass exists" sure makes it sound like this is about strengthening Game Pass first and foremost. I fully expect them to give GP subscribers priority access to first party games at some point. There's really no reason for them not to do this. Keep in mind I'm talking about days here, or maybe a week or two at most, similar to what EA is doing with EA Access.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
Stretching that a lot ain’t you
kuncol02
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Bernkastel
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The Medium, Scorn, Flight Simulator, Shredders, Warhammer 40,000: Darktide and Exo One are this years Series S|X console exclusives.
Interfectum
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Not sure what you are trying to read into this.... he is bringing exclusives to devices that have Game Pass. PS5 does not have Game Pass therefore no Bethesda games. I don't think he could be more clear unless you wanted to actually specify "NO PS5 GAMES! LOL"
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Fredrik
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They were clear. People are just searching for glimpses of hope because they refuse to believe this is happening.
Aaron Greenberg posted on twitter the quote that specifically highlighted the exclusive comment from Phil which really says it all.
They aren’t trying to dodge it anymore.
If you like Bethesda’s games. Buy a Xbox or PC.
ManaByte
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What a difference 20 years makes. When MS bought Rare you didn't see Nintendo fans claiming MS would put Rare games on the GameCube "because they like money".
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Deleted member 17706
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We'll see. I think a few million extra sales and exposure to the Xbox brand could easily justify the development costs for Microsoft, especially when the two consoles have such similar architectures.
Interfectum
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Stop. This argument is done and dusted just move on.
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Deleted member 17706
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It's perfectly within reason to speculate about it. Why do you think Microsoft puts Minecraft out wherever it can?
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SpongebobSquaredance
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The first thing I did after seeing this, was to look for an old post I did a few months ago.
Also found this gem while at it. This quote is not from me.
Also found this gem while at it. This quote is not from me.
Interfectum
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Phil literally just said new Bethesda games are exclusive to Xbox. He never said that about Minecraft. Why are you trying to compare the two?
Should we speculate about new God of War and Horizon titles coming to Game Pass / xbox?
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DaGwaphics
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Because there was a big existing community for that and they want to continue to serve those folks. It's logical for anything GaaS, where even if you have a new standalone entry, you are looking to directly pickup those same players.
When is the question Sony was buying each zenimax game as a timed exclusive. We are seeing the deals get longer with Sony. So what 1, 2 or 3 years later when they are old games? Microsoft also get ID7 engine thank God send that shit to 343.
Fredrik
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Lol yeah, the money left on the table thing was always a dumb idea, I understand the frustration of exclusivity, it sucks if it locks you out, but it is a good way to get people to invest in the platform.
I wouldn’t buy a PS5 if it weren’t for Gran Turismo 7, God of War Ragnarök and Horizon Forbidden West.
I wouldn’t have bought a Switch if it weren’t for Breath of the Wild and Super Mario Odyssey.
The Pleasure
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Hopefully Elder Scrolls VI will be bug free and have improved combat.
I hope Wolfenstein finishes off strong. II and Youngblood kind of sucked. But I just want to see how the story end even as gameplay gets worse.
I hope Wolfenstein finishes off strong. II and Youngblood kind of sucked. But I just want to see how the story end even as gameplay gets worse.
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Deleted member 17706
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It is a very different landscape... Microsoft had just started shunning even Windows back then.
Also, Rare did put out two games on the Nintendo DS...
If you have a compelling reason to speculate about it, I'd love to hear it.
To me, it's just that Microsoft's strategy is not in conflict with releasing games on other platforms. I honestly don't care if they ever come out on PlayStation or Switch myself. I would never play them there anyway, but I look forward to revisiting this thread and others a year or so after the next big Bethesda game is released.
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LisaMariaMartin
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You can remove Starfield from that list
Sony Boss Jim Ryan Doesn't Know if Starfield's Coming to PS5 Anymore
"Out of our hands"
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SpongebobSquaredance
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...because Minecraft was already released on plenty of different platforms prior to the buyout including phones for once, secondly Minecraft is a platform on its own that even gets usage in schools. It would have been a huge waste of potential and super anti-consumer to just shit on all these customers and force exclusivity. Third, it's too big and therefore wouldn't make much sense to make it exclusive.
i stand corrected...just looked up some pc software sales...honestly didn't think it was that high on PC...good move on Microsoft then
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Deleted member 17706
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Microsoft is no stranger to that kind of behavior.
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Deleted member 17706
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Only if they rebrand their gaming division as SEGA and put out a Dreamcast 2.
Clear
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There's exclusives and there are *lifetime* exclusives.
Its just as ambiguous as ever.
That they'd honour contractual obligations was inevitable, becuase they'd get sued to oblivion (ho-ho) were they to try that on.
That they will continue to support pre-existing releases is just as obvious.
That this is about bringing exclusive content to Xbox platforms is again self-evident, but, its unlikely people are doubting that Bethesda's PC output isn't also going to be sold on Steam. Which is outside of Xbox.
So, when that happens (there is no if, frankly) will Phil be called a liar for this statement? Don't think so.
Its just as ambiguous as ever.
That they'd honour contractual obligations was inevitable, becuase they'd get sued to oblivion (ho-ho) were they to try that on.
That they will continue to support pre-existing releases is just as obvious.
That this is about bringing exclusive content to Xbox platforms is again self-evident, but, its unlikely people are doubting that Bethesda's PC output isn't also going to be sold on Steam. Which is outside of Xbox.
So, when that happens (there is no if, frankly) will Phil be called a liar for this statement? Don't think so.
Tommi84
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Don't be like that
. I was in the camp 'there's no way MS will let Bethesda play new IPs/games on PS. They are not stupidI think I was half way through when I decided I had enough. Fast-paced fps games are just not for me - Deus Ex were far better for me
cyen
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The first thing I did after seeing this, was to look for an old post I did a few months ago.
Also found this gem while at it. This quote is not from me.
Man. That can only be a troll post, 5 stars for the effort.
JokerMM
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SpongebobSquaredance
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Yeah, but I think in this scenario it wouldn't have made sense from a business standpoint, as the game was available on Java, Android, iOS, PC, PS3, PS4, etc. at his point. That's billions of potential customers.
Interfectum
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Steam is easily justified as it still allows for Xbox Live functionality and having a Steam user jump over to Game Pass is as simple as a free app download.
There could very well be a time when so many Xbox First Party games get launched that even the most avid Steam user will get tired of buying them all and just toss in a Game Pass sub.
Concern
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Pretty much. And guess what this also would mean.... Death Loop 2 and Ghostwire 2 will most likely be Xbox/pc exclusive too.
So much for all the "concern" , trolling, and "
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Andodalf
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Don't be like that
I think I was half way through when I decided I had enough. Fast-paced fps games are just not for me - Deus Ex were far better for me
Play Prey
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Deleted member 17706
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It was, but after the acquisition, they made a point to create a new version that actually connected all of the platforms and pushed heavily for crossplay.
Phil Spencer seems to be all about letting people play where they want. That doesn't mean he's not going to keep anything exclusive to Xbox/Windows, but his strategy seems wildly different to that of the Microsoft of the past.
Leyasu
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People need to accept what is happening. These are now 1st party studios, and their I.Ps are Microsoft’s. They were bought to feed the gamepass monster. After the contracts have been concluded for death loop, that shitty looking Tokyo ghost game , ESO and any other MMOs, every thing else is exclusive.
Just play them on the PC that every Sony fan is rocking.
Just play them on the PC that every Sony fan is rocking.
CatLady
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Hasn't really changed that much. I still don't see hordes of NintenBros claiming Bethesda games are coming to Switch (although I think there is a better chance of that than PS4/5). It's just a bunch of delusional SonyBros that refuse to accept reality.
Well, we still disagree on the clarity provided by today's statement. But it's pretty much splitting hairs at this point. Subsequent to that Phil replied to someone's tweets, and based on context provided by the poster who linked the tweets, it sounded like Phil may have been confirming that nothing goes to PS beyond contracts and games already released being supported. I'm not going to speculate on what is under contract already, so as far as I am concerned the games are exclusive if we don't already know PS is getting them.
Minecraft is also a small play to get kids to see Microsoft in a positive light. It also benefits it having a big user base as a game based around having UGC.
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SpongebobSquaredance
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I think the reason for this is how big Minecraft actually is. We need to consider that Minecraft isn't just some great selling title like God of War or Super Mario Odyssey, it is in a whole other league and this success story was already deep into the making before Microsoft bought it. Microsoft helped to grow Minecraft into the beast it is today.
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