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Angry Joe - Top 10 WORST Games of 2020

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CliffyB's Cock Holster
At this point, I believe that whoever hated TLoU2, felt that way because theu felt personally betrayed.

Which is pretty funny to me.

Oh well, we can't choose how we feel about games. No wait, we can.

Still funny.

Game is a masterpiece.

Yeah. Weirdest part for me is the idea that tonally its such a departure from the first game, when it really is more of the same.

The original is hardly a barrel of laughs, starting with the death of a child, and ending with shooting an unarmed woman!

I get that some people wanted a happy ending for Joel, but realistically that was never on the cards. And quite honestly I really do not understand some people's insane attachment to the character.
 

mxbison

Member
I have NEVER seen a game before that people wanted to get over with so fast that they activated ALL Accessibility features because they did not care at all anymore. And this was not just one Person.
It was certainly the worst letdown and if you think how far these developers have fallen in sections they were praised to heaven before I can totally see this being the worst game of 2020

Is this the new story after everyone returning it or breaking their disc didn't work out when we saw the trophy completion rate? LOL
 
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Lupingosei

Banned
God of War was $18-$25 during the 2018 holiday and $25-$30 during January and February of 2019.
And God of War was still in the PS4 charts in December 2018 while Last of Us Part 2 is MIA since the end of September.

And what makes it even juicier God of War was released in April and Last of Us Part 2 in June during a global pandemic, when people had to stay inside.

If Player Stats was an indication of anything, it it sold just over 7 million units since during the beginning of November.


Ever since the game has been $30, the sales have picked up. It's likely we'll see over 10 million units sold later this year.
The sales have picked up so much, that it is somehow not in any of the PS4 charts worldwide. If it would have to sell another 3-4 million, it would have to perform like Animal Cross and not like Last of Us 2 Part 2

btw. if you bring up Gamestats, the Ghost userbase was always growing faster and even the userbase of the first Last of Us was growing faster than the audience of Part 2.
 
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Dr. Claus

Vincit qui se vincit
Look it all the sad little kiddos crying that Joe criticized TLOU2 and how he is a nobody whose opinion doesn’t matter. Yet if Joe gave it a positive review these same sad sacks would be praising him to kingdom come.

I’ll say what I have said before: if you like the game then good for you! Don’t cry that someone doesn’t share your opinion as the only one that ultimately matters is yours. They can’t change your thoughts on the game and you can’t change theirs. Move the fuck on.
 
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2. Last of Us: Part 2
south park popcorn GIF
 

MarlboroRed

Member
I'm currently playing TLOU2 whenever I'm at the ladies house. So far it's good, but not excellent.. But I haven't gotten far yet. Hoping it will pick up some momentum going forward.
 

Concern

Member
Tlou2 almost got another award... damn lol

Game is trash. Made it to the open area in Seattle and it bored me to death on top of the shitty plot.
 

AV

We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
I don't like TLOU2, but calling it a "worse game" than the 3 before it is a little over-the-top. At least TLOU2 is a finished product. This isn't "worst scripts of 2020".
 
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DForce

NaughtyDog Defense Force
And God of War was still in the PS4 charts in December 2018 while Last of Us Part 2 is MIA since the end of September.

And what makes it even juicier God of War was released in April and Last of Us Part 2 in June during a global pandemic, when people had to stay inside.

As far as I can see, the only one who provided PS4 charts was Sony and it was God of War was 16th on the top 20 charts and missed the following months of December and January. It did make the top 10 during the month of November on the PS Store. TLOU made the top 8 on the PSN store in Europe and America.

We had this conversation before and you always try to prove that it's failing when its not.

I'll be sure to tag you when it's reported that it has surpassed 10 million in sales.
 

Lupingosei

Banned
As far as I can see, the only one who provided PS4 charts was Sony and it was God of War was 16th on the top 20 charts and missed the following months of December and January. It did make the top 10 during the month of November on the PS Store. TLOU made the top 8 on the PSN store in Europe and America.

We had this conversation before and you always try to prove that it's failing when its not.

I'll be sure to tag you when it's reported that it has surpassed 10 million in sales.

PSN store is really your argument for why it does great or even good? And completely ignore that is not in the physical sales charts anywhere, while other titles still are.

Do you really expect that those 3-4 million sales come from the PSN store?
 
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I'm one of the people who think The Last of Us part 2 shit the bed with it's story. For me it was pretty much an empty, pointless waste of both Joel & Ellie as characters.

Having said that, there's no way in hell it deserves to be in a top 10 "worst games of the year" list. It's maybe the best looking game ever created. Seriously, it's production values are unmatched, the visuals are out of this world & I don't remember a single bug or glitch of any kind during my time playing. The entire cast all do great jobs (with the terrible script). The soundtrack is fantastic. It has the best & most wide ranging accessibility options that I've ever seen. Last but not least, it plays like a dream. Naughty Dog have refined their gameplay systems to an S class, god tier level.

If you're looking at the game & trying to make a fair judgement, there's no way you can say it's one of the worst games of the year because it so obviously, blatantly is not. Most disappointing? Sure, I wouldn't argue with that.

The story failed terribly, in my opinion. Everything else about it is objectively excellent work by people at the very top of their game.

So yeah, even though I share his disappointment with the continuation of Joel & Ellie's story, I'm not with Joe on this one. No way.
 

mcz117chief

Member
Disagree based on

4. Warcraft 3: Reforged

That shit is #1. The game is trash and it's existence removed the GOOD version of the game.
Yeah, Warcraft 3 Refunded should be a number 1 on all "the worst of all time" lists going forward. I don't see anybody taking something so good and turning it into such shit in the foreseeable future.
 
I have a hard time seeing how TLOU2 deserves to be on that list. It's a very well-crafted game that plays amazingly and is well-written. It's ok to not like it but I can't buy having it as your second worst game of the year. Didn't watch the video yet but I imagine him putting Cyberpunk on there is due to the console versions? I played it on PC and loved it, didn't have that many bugs.
He follows the outrage train and has no single thought of his own. In essence, he became a sell out. Not to corp. To views.
 

DForce

NaughtyDog Defense Force
PSN store is really your argument for why it does great or even good? And completely ignore that is not in the physical sales charts anywhere, while other titles still are.

Do you really expect that those 3-4 million sales come from the PSN store?

That's the top games of 2018, NOT the month of November or December. The Last of Us Part II was the 6th best selling game of 2020.

God of War made the top 20 of November's 2018 NPD, but didn't make the top 20 in December or January. We did not get top 10 PlayStation 4 games sold during that month as we do now from NPD.

What you don't realize is that NPD tracks revenue and not units sold. This means if a game at number 20 sold 50k copies at $50, then God of War would have to sell a shade more than 100k to surpass it because it's selling for half the price during that month. PlayStation charts the most units sold during that month. Yes, EU being the biggest region and US being the second, it really does matter. Lets not forget the fact that it has bee charting across Europe during this time.

But as I said before, you're going to ignore facts, so I'll just tag you when it's announced. I'm done with this conversation.
 

Hestar69

Member
Come on. Even if you dont like TLOU2 it is NOT a bad game. But whatever it's his opinion he can hate the game.

Just funny he put games like among us,fall guys,phantosmia and COD on his best games of 2020 when ALL of them are casual trash games.

Fall guys was fun for 2-3 weeks with friend,s after that,it going super boring.
 
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Hestar69

Member
I have NEVER seen a game before that people wanted to get over with so fast that they activated ALL Accessibility features because they did not care at all anymore. And this was not just one Person.
It was certainly the worst letdown and if you think how far these developers have fallen in sections they were praised to heaven before I can totally see this being the worst game of 2020
LOL sureeee..Weird how all my friends and people I know LOVED the game and most even got the plat for it. but sure,everyone hated the game.
 

Banjo64

cumsessed
But as I said before, you're going to ignore facts, so I'll just tag you when it's announced. I'm done with this conversation.
Lol look at you, so personally invested. This might blow your mind, but sales ≠ quality.

Just for your info, The Ketchup Song sold over 7 million copies world wide, which makes it one of the world’s best ever selling singles of all time. It was number 1 on the charts in over 23 countries. Enjoy;

 

Dunki

Member
LOL sureeee..Weird how all my friends and people I know LOVED the game and most even got the plat for it. but sure,everyone hated the game.
Mabye you just have shitty friends? Again this was an observation on the internet not my friends. I have seen influencer like COH who normally 100% all his games end this game as fast as possible. I have seen more than a dozen streamer turn on all accessibility features after they reached Abbies part because they did not care anymore and it destroyed the complete Pacing of the game., It is like playing it twice.
 

DForce

NaughtyDog Defense Force
Lol look at you, so personally invested. This might blow your mind, but sales ≠ quality.

Just for your info, The Ketchup Song sold over 7 million copies world wide, which makes it one of the world’s best ever selling singles of all time. It was number 1 on the charts in over 23 countries. Enjoy;
We're not talking about the quality of a game. We're specially talking about sales and where it currently stands. You would've saved some time if you took a minute to read what was actually going on.
 
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JORMBO

Darkness no more
TLOU2 had a really stupid story with gameplay that felt dated and tedious. But it had nice graphics...

#2 still feels a bit harsh. It would probably be up towards the top of my list of what I played in 2020, but since I don't review games I can normally avoid playing most of the stinkers each year.
 

cormack12

Gold Member
I have issues with TLOU II but to put it as the second worst game smacks of Jim Sterling type behaviour. It's certainly not a bad game
 

Banjo64

cumsessed
We're not talking about the quality of a game. We're specially talking about sales and where it currently stands. You would've saved some time if you took a minute to read what was actually going on.
Sorry, but whilst not explicitly stated I thought it was fairly obvious that you are using sales metrics as an indicator of quality. If not, what was your point? Why discuss sales at all, or chart positions, in a thread where the game is listed as the second worst game of 2020, unless you’re trying to make a counterpoint?
 
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Zimmy68

Member
I can see Cyberpunk being on the most disappointing but worst of the year? Come on.
Unless you are playing it on a base Xbox or PS4, that is a stretch, even for him.
And TLOU2? Now we are being silly.
 
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Saber

Gold Member
That was bold of him. I mean, LoU2 has nothing to lose since it's well awarded. Yet here we are with people getting offended by his take. The level of insecurity of LoU2 fans is astonishing.

Must be a conspiracy. Whole 174 of them!

What about the "reditt is mass downvoting LoU2" conspiracy?
 
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DForce

NaughtyDog Defense Force
Sorry, but whilst not explicitly stated I thought it was fairly obvious that you are using sales metrics as an indicator of quality. If not, what was your point?
He thinks the game is a flop because Sony is not updating sales figures. He later compared GoT and TLOU2 price point as proof, but I told him God of War was under $30 for a long time back in 2018 so it doesn't prove that the game is a flop.

I'm done. We'll see the sales figures later this year (I'm sure of it) so the facts will come out eventually.
 
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Neo Blaster

Member
I can see Cyberpunk being on the most disappointing but worst of the year? Come on.
Unless you are playing it on a base Xbox or PS4, that is a stretch, even for him.
And TLOU2? Now we are being silly.
Considering it's a 150+ million player base, it's one hell of a reason.
 

RJMacready73

Simps for Amouranth
I love me some angry joe, his skits with other joe and alex are on occasion v funny, i cant see why anyone would have a problem with him, his reviews are fair and balanced and he backs up everything he says, dont get the hate but fuck me, TLOU2 at no.2... fuuuuuuuuuuuck man, you done fucked it up!
 

Banjo64

cumsessed
He thinks the game is a flop because Sony is not updating sales figures. He later compared GoT and TLOU2 price point as proof, but I told him God of War was under $30 for a long time back in 2018 so it doesn't prove that the game is a flop.

I'm done. We'll see the sales figures later this year (I'm sure of it) so the facts will come out eventually.
OK? And? If he’s arguing poor sales = flop, then surely you’re counterpoint is that good sales = success. Success isn’t just measured by sales, just as sales aren’t an indicator of quality.

It’ll probably hit 10 million sold because it’s dirt cheap, backed by Sony and comes from a studio with great previous pedigree. Do you think those sales are worth it if the next game tanks because no one wants to play as Tiger Woods?

Since September/October last year the game has regularly hovered between £20 and £25 in the UK. It launched in June.
 

MeteorVII

Member
The Last of Us 2 on Angry Joe’s worst list? How shocking!

Totally didn’t see the neckbeard mouth breather who is literally braindead when it comes to anything resembling narrative and writing critiques having immense problems with understanding The Last of Us 2 coming!
 

ShirAhava

Plays with kids toys, in the adult gaming world
Cyberpunk 2077 is a decent game with a ton of issues I guess technically it is one of the worse but ehhh I'm enjoying it

So many really really crappy games that run like a dream could be on this list
 
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Max_Po

Banned
People cheering AJ for his
#2 pick.... must be dying inside with all the awards the game is getting.... lol
 

DForce

NaughtyDog Defense Force
OK? And? If he’s arguing poor sales = flop, then surely you’re counterpoint is that good sales = success. Success isn’t just measured by sales, just as sales aren’t an indicator of quality.

It’ll probably hit 10 million sold because it’s dirt cheap, backed by Sony and comes from a studio with great previous pedigree. Do you think those sales are worth it if the next game tanks because no one wants to play as Tiger Woods?

Since September/October last year the game has regularly hovered between £20 and £25 in the UK. It launched in June.
Dude, just stop.

You're trying to force your opinion and it's not going to work. A game being good\bad quality is subjective. They made a game that millions of people loved and they wanted to make it divisive. It's their third highest game in Sony's history in the US, beating the likes of Uncharted 4, the original TLOU in less than a month. That is a success no matter what attempts you make to spin it. God of War is their second highest game ever and it was $40 for the entire summer, under 20 in December and $25 in the month of January of 2019.

Search God of War on Slickdeals and look at the deals they had for God of War. It was $18 on Gamestop and Amazon in December in the US, which is a bigger region than just the UK.


For the last time, I'm done. You guys love to argue without doing any research whatsoever.
 

LordCBH

Member
I don’t think TLOU2 is a top ten worst of last year, but I also didn’t think it was good. Considering one of the main draws is the story, which fell on its face in part 2, I can at least understand why someone would consider it to be on a list like this.
 
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