MatrixReloaded101
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Smart move, I would wait until more HDMI 2.1 TVs come out next year.
How so?
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Smart move, I would wait until more HDMI 2.1 TVs come out next year.
How so?
Imtjnotu
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Higher bandwidth and cheaper price vs the competition if you can get one.
The cx has slightly better motion but I don't really notice the motion issues anymore.
Chris_Rivera
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higher bandwidth for what? it’s a 10bit panel, no?
THEAP99
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didn't seem to work
Captain Hero
The Spoiler Soldier
There is an update I think for the game .. one of my friends has the same issue he restarted his PS5 and the game run smoothly
kyliethicc
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I think the LG C9 and CX OLEDs are both 12 bit color panels. But the CX has a 40 Gb/s HDMI 2.1 port cap (unlike the C9 w/ 48) so it cannot display 2160p @ 120 Hz HDR video with 12 bit color at RGB 4:4:4.
Not a huge issue tho. Both seem great.
ArcaneNLSC
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Just change to right answer.
You live in wonderland if you think that any TV can show 4K@120fps with 12-bit HDR and 4:4:4 subsampling.
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onesvenus
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They are not. They are both 10 bit panels, that's why the capped bandwidth is a non issue
kyliethicc
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Oh well they still accept 12 bit signals. The PS5 can send the LG CX a 12 bit color HDR 4K @ 60 Hz RGB signal.
Maybe the panel is only 10 bit, but I imagine the 12 bit signal input being fed to the image processor could at least help with less color banding.
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FALCON_KICK
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Three Jackdaws
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FALCON_KICK
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LivingD3AD
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It’s not randomized. The LoD of Xbox is static and the same as PC at highest setting, PS5 has just higher level of details compared to both. Some kind of SSD streaming benefits I guess!
ToadMan
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Sounded to me like the excuse Phil wants to use to keep his job if/when this gen is yet another where Xbox doesn’t grab a lot of market share from Sony/Nintendo.
He’s talking about tribalism like it’s out of his hands.
He’s tried to buy impact with power, old games, cheap-ass rentals, buying studios, launching multiple console skus and being down with “da gamers”.
The only thing he hasn’t done is actually produce games people want to play consistently. All that other stuff is horeshit. Xbone was ignored due to lack of games and Xsex will go the same way.
Trying to say it’s tribalism and “he has respect for all teams that put out content” is just trying to pin the blame for his and MS failure on something outside their control when it clearly isn’t.
You have to be able to put out content - for many reasons MS just aren’t doing that. It’s the quality of content experience that generates the tribalism - people don’t just “choose to be tribal” because of the side of the bed they rolled out of that day.
kyliethicc
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And its all hilariously retarded considering the metric fuck ton of lies and petty tribal shit coming out of his marketing department.
Phil Box is biggest hypocrite in gaming.
Sw0pDiller
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When we are down to this kind of level we can all agree they are pretty much equal in IQ Exept PS5 is 100 $/€ cheaper and has force feedback triggers.
LiquidRex
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Xbox chief: the best argument against the Xbox Series S was Sony
Microsoft says it’s behind Sony on manufacturing its next-gen consoles
www.theverge.com
Sorry guys if this has already been discussed, can you give me a heads up on your thoughts if so.... So Phill according to this article has said the reason there aren't so many units compared to PS5 is due to them waiting on AMD to supply the right technology for their chips.
So he's again making the full RDNA 2 claim I guess.
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Zheph
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He is prepping the field for Sony numbers... saving the faceXbox chief: the best argument against the Xbox Series S was Sony
Microsoft says it’s behind Sony on manufacturing its next-gen consoles
Sorry guys if this has already been discussed, can you give me a heads up on your thoughts if so.... So Phill according to this article has said the reason there aren't so many units compared to PS5 is due to them waiting on AMD to supply the right technology for their chips.
So he's again making the full RDNA 2 claim again I guess.
danielJackson
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There is always something new on next year
HDMI 2.1 = I would consider if it is worth of waiting for months/years. VRR is nice, but I would not count it as essential feature, gaming have been fine with current non-VRR TVs for years. Maybe if gamer is super sensitive for fps drops, but I have read that VRR on some TVs (LG i think) can still feel bit "laggy" vs locked 60fps @ 60Hz
My current Sony is 2014 1080p model, still working perfectly and image quality is "ok", so I could probably use it another 6 years if I wanted to
But now Sony A8H (A85) 55" oled got price drop because of black week, from 1899€ -> 1299€ (~1500$) aka lowest it have dropped on EU, includes 22-24% VAT.
I considered that it lacks 2.1 and probably wont get it (some rumors out there about update but I dont think it happens). But it have eARC and Sonys own similar feature that on 2.1 changes TV to game mode / movie mode depending what you are doing on PS5.
Another option would have been waiting for next gen of Sony oled 2021 to get VRR.. But it would have meant that it would drop to ~1300€ range after 12 months again(counting from now) So, is it worth it to wait another year or get top quality image now? I dont think so.
LG would have had 2.1, but I dont like their quality/brand, LG is cheap brand like samsung(which is even lower quality), at least to me / here. And 55" LG would have been same 1299€ so easy choise to get top quality Sony.
Third option would have been Sony A900H (AH90), which is around 899€ but deep black levels are thing I like the most and If I would get that one, I would use it again for 6-7 years so no OLED anytimes soon. So not worth it to just to get VRR.
Just to point out that hdmi 2.1 isnt that big of a deal, if it means 12+ months of waiting. Of course for rich people it doesnt matter, and if users current TV is modern enough, then it is easier to wait for another year for sales
Xbox chief: the best argument against the Xbox Series S was Sony
Microsoft says it’s behind Sony on manufacturing its next-gen consoles
Sorry guys if this has already been discussed, can you give me a heads up on your thoughts if so.... So Phill according to this article has said the reason there aren't so many units compared to PS5 is due to them waiting on AMD to supply the right technology for their chips.
So he's again making the full RDNA 2 claim again I guess.
All the waiting and then they cant even sell all their consoles
Series S is still easily available on physical stores here
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BoxFresh123
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Apologies if this has been confirmed/debunked
Are PS5's shipping with different fan models?
Are PS5's shipping with different fan models?
Zheph
Member
yes but they don't do "un boucan d'enfer" this dude is a Xbot FUDer btw, not your best source
BoxFresh123
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Cheers. Do the two different designs not result in differing performance at all though?
Coulomb_Barrier
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Yep it's pre-emptive damage control for being heavily outsold I'm guessing at least 2:1 at launch. As I think the truth is MS manufactured much more conservative numbers in line with XB1 launch whereas Sony planned to make much more, then increased inventory further still after they saw they could hit a home run due to Covid.
I think he's finally feeling the pressure as MS finally caved and backed Xbox with $7.5bn acquisition, so he has to deliver now, no more excuses. Problem is looking at the respective first party outputs and Xbox multiplat performance this first 6 months to a year, it's going to be very tough for him to maintain that poker face! He can't deliver for a good while.
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Zheph
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MistBreeze
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Phil does not understand that u can not sell ur console by pr talk or being the good guy
He pretending to be good and exclusives are bad and gamers should play their games regardless of platform yet he bought an entire publisher and locked it away from other consoles... he is contradicting himself everytime he talk and yet can not deliver
even if microsoft want to produce games they need many years to build great studios that can make top tier games
sony spent all ps3 and ps4 generation to build reputation for naughty dog and santa monica... guerilla and sucker punch just started to make top tier games
u can not buy studios and hope for the best
LiquidRex
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But look at there designs... Surely they both distribute air differently, so which one is more efficient.
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sircaw
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sircaw
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He is always pulling this shit, acting like the good guy, constantly gaslighting sony.
Just make good games Phil, it will make people buy your console, it will make your fans happy. Why is this like a secret to this guy, ffs.
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Three Jackdaws
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WHERE THE F IS THAT APU DIE SHOT!?
LiquidRex
Member
More PS5 stock available today.
Zheph
Member
I'm talking about software update my dude
LiquidRex
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I just saw an article that there's more stock available today apparentlyI'm talking about software update my dude
Zheph
Member
You think I should get a 2nd? Maybe a DE this time?I just saw an article that there's more stock available today apparently
LiquidRex
Member
I'm having 1/2 gig broadband installed today... But no PS5 digital edition to try out unfortunatelyYou think I should get a 2nd? Maybe a DE this time?
Gudji
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Xbox chief: the best argument against the Xbox Series S was Sony
Microsoft says it’s behind Sony on manufacturing its next-gen consoles
Sorry guys if this has already been discussed, can you give me a heads up on your thoughts if so.... So Phill according to this article has said the reason there aren't so many units compared to PS5 is due to them waiting on AMD to supply the right technology for their chips.
So he's again making the full RDNA 2 claim again I guess.
What a load of bullshit. lmao
FranXico
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The dominance that DirectX has over PC is what allows them to pull this kind of marketing off. By coupling RDNA2 frontend to DirectX so tightly, it's easy to make this kind of claims, and confuse people about hardware capability.
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SSfox
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There's also more smoke in the tower in fire here in PS5 compare to XSX, another bug or?
Kinda weird that DF missed those details, usually they have eyes for those kind of details and others even much less significant than that
cebri.one
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So PS5 is full RDNA2 as well. Nice indirect confirmation.
Yoboman
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Phil what is that ugly ass bezel on your TV? Is that some shit from 2002?
Also the left draw is open and the lamps are not aligned
No wonder Xbox is such a mess
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Hawking Radiation
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Its a disease mate. He can't help himself looking like a right tit. It's almost comical and utterly enjoyable.
The lack of self-awareness is incredible
I wished he continued because I was enjoying myself there for a minute.
Shmunter
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Phil must be feeling the heat with the XsX performance deficit. You messed up Phil, own it!
Yoboman
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Hes a self styled old man with a sonic avatar
You know he's not altogether there
BatSu
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