• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

PS5 doesn't let you store PS5 games on external HDD

Chukhopops

Member
I'm really trying to force myself to PS5 purchase over XSX.

No 1440p support
No freesync
No external PS5 games support
No quick resume
Slower BC SSD speeds
Much slower resume boot

I'm ready to switch to Xbox ecosystem at this point.

Sony seems very unprepared in a lot of areas. Keeping so much close to their chest didn't help things.
Wait is the lack of quick resume confirmed? That is imo the absolute best part of this gen from a usability improvement point of view.
 
S

SLoWMoTIoN

Unconfirmed Member
I'm really trying to force myself to PS5 purchase over XSX.

No 1440p support
No freesync
No external PS5 games support
No quick resume
Slower BC SSD speeds
Much slower resume boot

I'm ready to switch to Xbox ecosystem at this point.

Sony seems very unprepared in a lot of areas. Keeping so much close to their chest didn't help things.
Quick question.

Why even get a system at launch when all you want to do is play old games/ports?
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
I'm ready to switch to Xbox ecosystem at this point.
Really comes down to how much you value Sony's first party games and your PS profile/friends list/trophies list.

If you value that stuff a lot, probably better to stick with PS5 as some of the things you listed could be added to PS5 in a systems update.

If you care more about feature set and you don't really care about Sony first party games and your profile on PSN, then grab an SeX, pay for 3 years of gold (assuming you do MP), and do the Game Pass Ultimate $1 upgrade.

You'll get GPU for 3 years. And GPU includes EA Access too starting on launch day so you got all their Xbox games that are about 1 year old and older. Even SW Fallen Jedi is being added soon.
 
Last edited:

Ceadeus

Gold Member
Wait for a firmware update. I don't even think there are 667GB worth of PS5 games this year, much less at launch. There's no reason they won't have this feature. From a UI development aspect, this would be a low-priority ticket, given there's no need for it yet. Address other features first.

Lol with call of duty being more than 200gb, those SSD gonna be filling fast af
 

Jigga117

Member
I'm really trying to force myself to PS5 purchase over XSX.

No 1440p support
No freesync
No external PS5 games support
No quick resume
Slower BC SSD speeds
Much slower resume boot

I'm ready to switch to Xbox ecosystem at this point.

Sony seems very unprepared in a lot of areas. Keeping so much close to their chest didn't help things.
People need to stop using FreeSync for a feature concern when VRR is standard for HDMI 2.1. Which is fine for TVs that support it
 

Moogle11

Banned
Quick question.

Why even get a system at launch when all you want to do is play old games/ports?

I doubt for many that is "all" they want to do. But launch window lineups are usually pretty thin, many are still playing current games but would like to sell off the old console since there's BC on the new ones etc. So it's definitely a nice perk, and many were looking forward to also getting faster load times in those BC games etc.


Really comes down to how much you value Sony's first party games and your PS profile/friends list/trophies list.

If you value that stuff a lot, probably better to stick with PS5 as some of the things you listed could be added to PS5 in a systems update.

If you care more about feature set and you don't really care about Sony first party games and your profile on PSN, then grab an SeX, pay for 3 years of gold (assuming you do MP), and do the Game Pass Ultimate $1 upgrade.

You'll get GPU for 3 years. And GPU includes EA Access too starting on launch day so you got all their Xbox games that are about 1 year old and older. Even SW Fallen Jedi is being added soon.

Yep. I'll get both since I don't plan to upgrade my PC where I played Xbox/Gamepass stuff this gen, but I'm more invested in Playstation at this point. There first party games make up a lot of my favorites the past couple of generations and the few real life friends I game with are all on Playstation and sticking with the PS5. I do tend to prefer the Xbox experience in terms of OS, controller (Dualsense may change that, haven't used it yet) so I may end up playing more single player multiplats there if they run better than on PS5. I don' care about trophy/achievement score so that doesn't factor into where I play.
 

Jigga117

Member
Isn’t that the same thing buyi
Quick question.

Why even get a system at launch when all you want to do is play old games/ports?
Isn’t this the same as buying a new GPU card just for better FPS and graphics features? No game is built for a 3080.
 
Last edited:

FrankWza

Member
Huge oversight, as several people on here already purchased nvme drives or external drives in hopes of either working for launch. They definitely should have handled this better.

Who bought drives without knowing if they’re approved? I mean, you can just return the drive, can’t you? It’s not like prepaying for say, Netflix for 2-3 years and having no new movies to watch. Netflix wouldn’t do that, but maybe a different subscription service with no new content. If that even exists. I doubt it exists, but it may. That would be an oversight.
 

N1tr0sOx1d3

Given another chance
No expandable storage, no external storage, and a small SSD lol. Great combination. Sony need to hurry up and implement both of them.

I find it utterly baffling that clearly you hate Playstation and yet, for reasons known to no man, you can’t resist jumping in to each PlayStation thread and finding faults at every opportunity you can.

What excites you? What really gets you pumped up? A new pair of sock perhaps?

I’m a fan of PlayStation, but I can find the positives that both Xbox and PlayStation bring to this new gen. Has Sony really done nothing that excites you? Even a tiny bit?
 

Three

Member
Another beauty Sony didn't tell anyone, which testers had to find out and tell gamers a week before launch.
Because anyone with any sense knew already that PS5 games could only be stored on the expansion drive or internal. PS4 games internal. Wait till you find out it's the same for Xbox Series only games.
 

Chukhopops

Member
It's confirmed

Yeah I saw that in another thread. I guess it will be supported eventually but won't it make the available space even smaller?

Because anyone with any sense knew already that PS5 games could only be stored on the expansion drive or internal. PS4 games internal. Wait till you find out it's the same for Xbox Series only games.
Nobody expected that you could run those games on an external SSD/HDD, but being able to store them was kind of expected. It will save you some time downloading if you can back up your games on a cheap USB SSD or HDD.
 

THE DUCK

voted poster of the decade by bots
Because anyone with any sense knew already that PS5 games could only be stored on the expansion drive or internal. PS4 games internal. Wait till you find out it's the same for Xbox Series only games.



No expandable storage and no way to back up your ps5 games on ps5 is pretty lame.
 
Last edited:

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Because anyone with any sense knew already that PS5 games could only be stored on the expansion drive or internal. PS4 games internal. Wait till you find out it's the same for Xbox Series only games.
Xbox Series X games can be stored on external drives.

If you want to play them at Series X speed and perks, you have to have it in the internal SSD or that Seagate card. But in terms of storing it, all old gen and next gen games can be stored on an external HDD.

But you cannot store PS5 games on an external HDD. Nobody knew till now just simply storing PS5 games had to be on SSD.

.
By now, you probably know that to play next-gen Xbox Series X games, you need to store them either on the internal SSD or the official $220 Seagate 1TB expansion card. When it comes to backward compatible games, however, you can load them from an external USB drive. And if you don’t want to redownload an Xbox Series X game later, you can even store them on external media.
 
Last edited:

lachesis

Member
I wonder why... and pretty sure it's fixable and doable.... unless it's part of copyright protection?
This is pretty terrible news.

I wonder if DF is going to do SSD speed test for the PS4 games like they did with XSX? Depending on the result, I may end up getting external SSD/HDD for PS4 games.
 
I'm really trying to force myself to PS5 purchase over XSX.

No 1440p support
No freesync
No external PS5 games support
No quick resume
Slower BC SSD speeds
Much slower resume boot

I'm ready to switch to Xbox ecosystem at this point.

Sony seems very unprepared in a lot of areas. Keeping so much close to their chest didn't help things.

Console gamers dont usually need 1440p, yeah it would be nice but most play on TV and those are 1080p or 4k. 1440p is niche and even pc gamers still play on 1080p screens and higher are rarer

Quick resume vs loading games in similar time from zero, not a big deal. And 1 game in quick resume is enough for many

BC = maybe they fix it later, still not a big deal as difference is small

Same with resume, it is not slow by any means and probably gets faster later

Freesync = same as 1440p, good to have but many console gamers dont have it, and if they say officially that it never comes then it is sure. As feature it is not ground breaking for consoles, stable 30/60hz is as good as variable + Sync (on consoles)

Stop trying to turn tiny annoyences into big problems and it is easier
 

01011001

Banned
Wait is the lack of quick resume confirmed? That is imo the absolute best part of this gen from a usability improvement point of view.

it is basically confirmed. there is no mention of it by anyone and nothing on the dashboard points towards it being there either.
Sony is counting on developers using their card system for quickly starting up certain activities, which is not really comparable but also has its benefits over quick resume. both features are very different in nature tho. Quick Resume lets you quickly jump back in where you left off, and the cards system lets you quickly start a certain level or jump into a Multiplayer mode or something like that, which many games will not really be able to use... say Assassins Creed for example, that game has no "levels" or specific modes you could quickly jump to.
 
Last edited:

chinoXL

Member
wow ppl over hyping this...the console hasn't even officially dropped yet.. let it release as well as the approved drive list and go from there..even if its not available at launch, who cares just rock the internal storage until the externals are ready...not..that...serious
 
Wow, not happy about this at all.

Thought the ssd size would be a non issue due to being able to offload my games to the external drive if needed.

Why the fuck did Sony not mention this???
 

Javthusiast

Banned
A patch is coming...

A-the-cat-behind-the-curtain-soon-meme.jpg


Maybe
 
Last edited:

Gravemind

Member
Wow, not happy about this at all.

Thought the ssd size would be a non issue due to being able to offload my games to the external drive if needed.

Why the fuck did Sony not mention this???

Same reason they were very quiet on a lot of other features. People figured they were just waiting to drop all the "good news" at once, but it's been obvious to unbiased observers that theyve been quiet because they just dont have these features.

Clearly their plan was to try and launch the console without touching on these things and deal with the potential backlash later.

It's pretty pathetic that they're not allowing people to park games on an HDD. No excuse for that.
 

01011001

Banned
Same reason they were very quiet on a lot of other features. People figured they were just waiting to drop all the "good news" at once, but it's been obvious to unbiased observers that theyve been quiet because they just dont have these features.

Clearly their plan was to try and launch the console without touching on these things and deal with the potential backlash later.

It's pretty pathetic that they're not allowing people to park games on an HDD. No excuse for that.

it is clever tho, their first badge is basically sold out by now anyways.
 

Bojanglez

The Amiga Brotherhood
I'm really trying to force myself to PS5 purchase over XSX.

No 1440p support
No freesync
No external PS5 games support
No quick resume
Slower BC SSD speeds
Much slower resume boot

I'm ready to switch to Xbox ecosystem at this point.

Sony seems very unprepared in a lot of areas. Keeping so much close to their chest didn't help things.
All of these things are true, but to be fair Sony did prepare a few games for the launch. Arguably more important than any of these things.
 

MrFunSocks

Banned
Wow, not happy about this at all.

Thought the ssd size would be a non issue due to being able to offload my games to the external drive if needed.

Why the fuck did Sony not mention this???
Why didn’t they mention it? Because it’s a negative. They wouldn’t mention it because it hurts them. Sony haven’t been super secretive about the ps5 because they wanted to drop surprise good news bombs on release like people have been trying to say lol. They’ve been secretive because they don’t want to release bad news, so they just say nothing and let their shills spread rumours of secret sauce.

NXGamer and Digital Foundry especially were the causes of a lot of this secret sauce ps5 bullshit.
 

Bojanglez

The Amiga Brotherhood
Has anyone tried it with a fresh HDD and not one formatted by a PS4? I wonder if they both have different filesystems or something so they need to be separate.

I'm sure they'll patch it eventually, if not I'm screwed because I'm all digital and 600GB of storage ain't going to cut it.
 

MrFunSocks

Banned
Oh dont get me wrong, it was definetly the smart play for them. I'm just surprised that so many people honestly thought they were being quiet on important features for any other reason than they just dont have them.
Doesn’t help when they had people like NXGamer telling people that there were “huge surprises” he couldn’t wait to talk about in regards to the PS5. That “huge surprise” was that BC works lol.

I dislike it but Sony know that they can just say nothing and their vocal fanboys will do all the work for them, from making secret sauce stuff up to slandering the competition with outright lies. They threw a flash name like Tempest Audio out there and told their team that it’s revolutionary, and people even on this “enthusiast forum” ate it up and shouted from the rooftops that the ps5 is the only console that can do 3D audio ffs. They’re working their crowd up to do free marketing and defence for them, and it works a treat unfortunately.
 
Last edited:

yohan12

Member
I dont know how the rumor that the PS5 had it started, but there was never any confirmation for it. Nobody should be surprised
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
Do people really want back up of saves to USB? Why? Why not just use cloud saves?

Because you have to pay for those with PS+.

I dont know how the rumor that the PS5 had it started, but there was never any confirmation for it. Nobody should be surprised

People just assumed it would. Look at threads here and people just say "of course it'll support that".
 
Last edited:

tryDEATH

Member
What the fuck is Sony thinking and doing at this point, I though this was going to be on of the solid advantages Sony would have over Series X when it came to SSD space as Sony would be able to transfer games at a much faster speed than Series X from external to internal thus making the internal capacity of 625GB not a big issue now it certainly does become a issue that Sony gamers will have to cope with.
 
Wait for a firmware update. I don't even think there are 667GB worth of PS5 games this year, much less at launch. There's no reason they won't have this feature. From a UI development aspect, this would be a low-priority ticket, given there's no need for it yet. Address other features first.
Black ops and warzone would like to have a word with you ,
 
Top Bottom