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[INC]

You just gave then an idea for a DLC to Astro Playroom ;p

 

[Investor9872]

Dual Side Fan pulling in more air.

Can we run the PS5 like this, or will taking the plates off ruins the thermal dynamic designs?

 

[Md Ray]

No worries I felt no offense and I can tell you are decent and genuine. I am used to much worse from some Neogaf people and nobody ever managed to penetrate my skin.

I don't mean emotional as in that I actually have tears rolling down my cheeks, but that it makes me happy to see this video because it is well done and the console looks premium and I am looking forward to playing on it. I don't see it as a fault, but as me looking forward to be happy with it and the design of the PS5 looks to cause me less headaches than the loud PS4.

Watching this made me emotional too, Ellery. I've been waiting for PS5 teardown ever since April 2019 when Mark Cerny gave his WIRED interview talking about PS5 for the first time.

 

[iHaunter]

It can, just remove the panels?? plus there will be some nice after market modded panels to replace the ugly white ones, I'm looking forward to that.

Everyone from China studying this teardown. You know they're already looking to make these side panels.

 

[Ar¢tos]

Been researching how to paint the side plates... It's not expensive, but it's boring.
Need a plastic primer spray first, then spray paint, then gloss varnish spray. Total of 15€ (5x3).

 

[Md Ray]

but why is it so big

Because you asked for a quieter console.

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

 

[LordOfChaos]

Can we run the PS5 like this, or will taking the plates off ruins the thermal dynamic designs?

The shrouding directs dust into the dust removal holes, so you'd probably be being counterproductive by letting the insides clog much faster. You could run it like that fine most likely, but no real reason to.

 

[LordOfChaos]

Dual Side Fan pulling in more air.

I think it looks better like this, I bet there's going to be a huge market for aftermarket covers as they're easy to remove, and I'm thinking like a clear/frosted acrylic one. With the built in blue LEDs? Oomph.

 

[RoadHazard]

So we have to open it up to expand storage? Not exactly ideal.

But what about hooking up a external SSD via USB? If we install next gen only games on that, can we play them that way? Or is it like Xbox Series X where it's solely BC games to will boot from it?

I haven't been following the PS5 news much, so I'm sure this is old news. But that's what I want to know.

USB 3.1 maxes out at 10 Gbps, i.e. 1.25 GB/s. The PS5 SSD does 5.5 GB/s. Sooooo no.

 

[notseqi]

Oh nice did this just confirm the SSD was an expansion SSD and not just replacing the main one?!

Yeh, the 825gig is naked soldered straight to the mobo. Cool stuff, should be included on every better mobo.

 

[Clarissa]

I don't get how people don't automatically search for a closed captions button for English subtitles. Is this your first time watching videos?

It's as if all the console warring fried everyone's brain cells.

 

[vpance]

I wonder if 3rd parties will make custom side panels? I love the siz eof the ps5 but im not partial to the collars. Id rather just have it contured to the base unit.

Everyone from China studying this teardown. You know they're already looking to make these side panels.

You know someone's gonna make one that's transparent and maybe one with more fans built in.

 

[Stafford]

USB 3.1 maxes out at 10 Gbps, i.e. 1.25 GB/s. The PS5 SSD does 5.5 GB/s. Sooooo no.

Goddamn. And it already is far from 1tb in that thingt to begin with.

I wonder, does this mean USB externals will never ever work or could that be a future thing?

 

[Laconian Sword]

Fair point. The Xbox 360 power brick was huge.

I like consoles that don't require you to find space for a second box apart from the main unit, but there is a footprint cost to it.

I was going to reply with the 360 power brick too, but this is even better. And it's not like the 360 was a small console without it!

 

[Md Ray]

Can PS5 games run off that M.2 expansion? Or is it just for PS4 and storage?

The M.2 expansion is there so PS5 games can run off it.

 

[Investor9872]

What happened to that Sony patent with heatsinks on both sides of the CPU/GPU?

From what I saw nothing of that was present on the PS5.

Look again. Hint: Pay attention at the beginning of the video when the VP of Product Design takes off the PCB cover and exposing the mother board.

 

[Lupin3]

Everyone from China studying this teardown. You know they're already looking to make these side panels.

And they will sell like hotcakes. Let's just hope they get the fit right.

 

[tillbot8]

Oh for God's sake

the video itself even says "RDNA2 Based" which suggests its not full RDNA2, which is as expected

 

[iconmaster]

Everyone from China studying this teardown. You know they're already looking to make these side panels.

I want panels that look like they're made from rough-hewn obsidian.

 

[ABnormal]

Goddamn. And it already is far from 1tb in that thingt to begin with.

I wonder, does this mean USB externals will never ever work or could that be a future thing?

They work to store games, but to run them you have necessarily to move them to the internal ssd. External drives can be used as mass storage, but to run the games you have to install them internally.

 

[Punkster88]

Liquid metal confirmed. Kudos to Sony to take a brave step.

Has Sony solved all the issues that come with using liquid metal? I guess you'll find out.

 

[Kdad]

You know someone's gonna make one that's transparent and maybe one with more fans built in.

RGB

 

[RoadHazard]

Goddamn. And it already is far from 1tb in that thingt to begin with.

I wonder, does this mean USB externals will never ever work or could that be a future thing?

An external drive will never be able to run PS5 games, no. That's why there's an expansion slot to add an additional internal SSD. YOU can STORE games on the external drive though, but you'll need to move them to the internal SSD to play them (which should be pretty fast). PS4 games will run fine right from an external drive.

 

[Iced Arcade]

going to definitely see a market for side panels. I loved the 360 face plates

 

[Stafford]

An external drive will never be able to run PS5 games no. That's why there's an expansion slot to add an additional internal SSD. YOU can STORE games on the external drive though, but you'll need to move them to the internal SSD to play them (which should be pretty fast). PS4 games will run fine right from an external drive.

But to install that SSD you'll need to open the PS5 up? I can't help but think MS went with the better solution with those cards.

 

[portuga]

I was going to reply with the 360 power brick too, but this is even better. And it's not like the 360 was a small console without it!

The original Xbox One has a huge power brick too!

 

[Rentahamster]

The "dust catcher" design intrigues me.

 

[ThaMonkeyClaw]

I just noticed (on my 4th watch) that the PS5 can handle up to a m.2 22110 size NVMe drive (instead of the most common 2280 size)! Check out the 2nd picture and look at the number! They must be planning for some massive size SSD drives in the future!

2nd angle:

 

[RoadHazard]

But to install that SSD you'll need to open the PS5 up? I can't help but think MS went with the better solution with those cards.

You need to slide one of the side panels off and unscrew a small SSD bay cover, yes. A bit more work than just popping in a "memory card", but how often are you going to do it? It's a much more flexible and consumer-friendly solution, as it lets you use any compatible SSD (of which there aren't many yet, but there will be). With the Xbox you can only use their proprietary one, which they can price as they please.

 

[DeepEnigma]

But to install that SSD you'll need to open the PS5 up? I can't help but think MS went with the better solution with those cards.

How often are you going to swap the cards, if your swapping the cards often, then we know why MS went with that proprietary route that may sit on 1TB for some time. Just buy anotha' when full, we got you!

Take off the cover, slap in a 2TB or more in 5 minutes or so from third parties undercutting one another. Set it and forget it.

 

[nosseman]

Look again. Hint: Pay attention at the beginning of the video when the VP of Product Design takes off the PCB cover and exposing the mother board.

Do you mean the back bracket? Every GPU has those.

It just presses the PCB and APU against the heatsink. It even has plastic to protect the capacitors on the back.

The patent was with heat pipes and heatsinks on both sides of the chip.

 

[elenapska]

Big, ugly, but I want it so bad.

 

[BlueXImpulse]

But to install that SSD you'll need to open the PS5 up? I can't help but think MS went with the better solution with those cards.

Only for simplicity, not for cost. As the generation goes on those standard drives are going to become much cheaper, PS5 owners have the better deal here. Shop around and find an affordable drive and you are ready to go.

 

[ethomaz]

Not necessarily. Higher clocks mean higher binning = less working chips from each wafer.

That is not true for silicons.
Every chip with no silicon defect can reach (and even go over) the official clock specs.

The size plays the biggest role in how many good chips you can get from a Wafer.

Smaller = more chips per Wafer= cheaper.

 

[Stafford]

You need to slide one of the side panels off and unscrew a small SSD bay cover, yes. A bit more work than just popping in a "memory card", but how often are you going to do it? It's a much more flexible and consumer-friendly solution, as it lets you use any compatible SSD (of which there aren't many yet, but there will be). With the Xbox you can only use their proprietary one, which they can price as they please.

Hmm I see. Well, let's see what the prices are going to be of the compatible SSDs then.

 

[Senua]

 

[AGRacing]

Did someone say "aftermarket covers"?

 

[a multicultural team of v]

Oh for God's sake

sony lied rdna died

 

[scalman]

this is best teardown yet... do it yourself its whats best of it ....

 

[Kenpachii]

Without the shells it looks like a giant videocard lol

 

[fersnake]

omfg guys, this massive great news that cooling, Cerny my man love you !

 

[scalman]

its just best ...and imagine if its really silent ... that would make it all ... yes make it silent hitman....sony on its own game there .... ms show smt ? no ? too hot ? sorry man die soon

 

[Kdad]

But to install that SSD you'll need to open the PS5 up? I can't help but think MS went with the better solution with those cards.

Your lifting a flap with no tools and one screw to expose the SSD slot.....you are not performing surgery.

 

[ethomaz]

I just noticed (on my 4th watch) that the PS5 can handle up to a m.2 22110 size NVMe drive (instead of the most common 2280 size)! Check out the 2nd picture and look at the number! They must be planning for some massive size SSD drives in the future!

2nd angle:

Yes seems like they will allow every option.... the only requirement will be the weight and the speed.

From the pic the weight will be fine for over 90% of the drives and the speeds we need to wait more options.

Right now 980 Pro is one of the option that fit in that slot and have enough speed to run PS5 games.

 

[scalman]

well sony is not your avearage MS there ...

 

[ethomaz]

But to install that SSD you'll need to open the PS5 up? I can't help but think MS went with the better solution with those cards.

MS went with a simpler but expensive solution.

I should not say it is better.

1TB 980 Pro fits in the PS5 slot and it is not the cheapest option we will have in the market.

 

[notseqi]

Yes seems like they will allow every option.... the only requirement will be the weight and the speed.

From the pic the weight will be fine for over 90% of the drives and the speeds we need to wait more options.

Right now 980 Pro is one of the option that fit in that slot and have enough speed to run PS5 games.

So you guys can argue about SSD benchmarks in the future too! It's kind of a fan service!

 

[Papacheeks]

I think it looks better like this, I bet there's going to be a huge market for aftermarket covers as they're easy to remove, and I'm thinking like a clear/frosted acrylic one. With the built in blue LEDs? Oomph.

That profile actually shows you how slim the actual hardware is without the side panels.

Engineering wise it seems to have a lot more thought than Microsoft.

 

[ethomaz]

So you guys can argue about SSD benchmarks in the future too! It's kind of a fan service!

Well DF already did that with PS3 and PS4 so I expect new bench for the best (performance and cost/beneficies) SSD for PS5.