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Jeff Grubb seems to notice that sometimes the XSX is also hot in his case, but that it's not something to worry about?
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jimbojim
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In the GiantBomb podcast he said the entire thing is toasty showing XSX, not just the SSD.
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Vae_Victis
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The translation is correct and very accurate to the terminology. Source: I studied French for 7 years at school (and my first language is Italian, which is overall somewhat similar to begin with). "Violent" is the exact word they used.
Of course I don't know if the people in the video themselves are exaggerating, but they are very clearly making a big deal out of it.
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BlueXImpulse
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There are no heating problems. The console works fine and the cooling is good enough that it won't overheat. This is not an actual problem for the hardware, the air it lets out is just a bit toasty. Separately, I see a future where both MS and Sony go with an approach similar to what is in the PS5 currently. The drawbacks are incredibly minor for a huge upside which is firstly only using as much power as is necessary for a particular frame and being able to predict exact the power output and match the cooling accordingly. Again I stress, there are no overheating problems with the Series X, but from what we're hearing maybe the cooling isn't aggressive enough.
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Garani
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in a 30°C room in a basement. Come on, you can't be this blind.
I don't think it's fair to jump on MS for sending hundreds of Xbox Series X units worldwide, including to DF for a full teardown, because a few people were shocked the SSD drive dissipates heat. Especially when Sony invited professionals like this guy
YOU were not Sony's audience, I was NOT Sony's audience. The audience was Japanese people where the guy does show business. Is it cringy? It is! But I am used to other standards of entertainment. They had 2 VTubers as well as at least one Voice Actor and more "normal" people.
Point is they wanted to show the DS5 and a couple of games. They acchieved their goal. What YOU and I want is not relevant on a global level.
Shall I remind you of all the FUD and BS about PS5's heat management problem? Come on! Some on us are just taking cheap funny shots at MS. That's all.
TBiddy
Member
Still taking this with a grain of salt, no offence. What is the original french quote used?
jimbojim
Banned
He said entire thing is toasty and showing the XSX. Video provided in post above ( timestamped )
sircaw
Banned
You are being disengious now, sorry there are two videos below check them out. i have not mentioned the two hour shut down thing at all, nor did the op in that thread, you are moving, stretching your argument for some reason.
That post that got shut down was not about fake screenshots, here it is.
You can see from the Op it is legit and proven conversations from people.
If the post led with the 2 hours shut down crap image i would of said yes you are 100% right shut it down, but it did not. Shutting that post down was not correct, there are legit concerns there, there is no two ways about it.
Xbox Series X is getting quite hot according to some influencers
LeStream : "Xbox Series X is hot" at 05:49:45 Full quote : "I don't know if we can talk about this but, we have the Series X here and the Series X is hot, it is hot. It makes 0 noise but on the other hand it gives off heat, it's violent. I mean it's violent... yeah, yeah it's violent. You can...
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Neko Mimi Mode
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In the above podcast, Jez Corden who has an XsX, says heat dissipation/temperature is in-line with the Xbox One X, even tests it.
It's totally normal for an SSD to be hot in standby mode if it's still working. We don't know what it was doing, was it installing updates? Did it have smart delivery games queued? What about Quick Resume? These two isolated reports from unprofessional sources tell us absolutely nothing
martino
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they are talking playing bc games here
but this is not a surprise; depending on usage ssd temp alone are high
ex 970 pro with various heat sink :
and in one way it's not that a bad thing ms cartridge come with its own form 'heatsink'.
the console need to cool two of them though
bitbydeath
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It sounds like it’s not removing the heat from the innards which is why the device itself is heating up.
That said it is preview hardware so may not be an issue with the final device.
Sw0pDiller
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well, it still is a pre production console was it not? plus, xbox360 ring a bell?
I don't believe it neither but with all the FUD fighting back and forth all news gets it's own stage. just like the "news" about overheating ps5 devkits, yield problems, and single digit TF numbers did.
silent head
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Vae_Victis
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The guy with the hat on the left talks about the PS5 previews from Japan and how the PS5 is supposedly not heating up, and then at 05:49:45 says:
"On a la Series X ici, et la Series X elle est CHAUDE. Elle est CHAUDE. Elle fait zero bruit mais de contre la chaleur est violente."
"We have the Series X here, and the Series X is HOT. It is HOT. It makes zero noise, but on the other hand the heat is violent."
I'm missing an adverb or similar near the end there (the "on the other hand" part) because he speaks very fast and the other guy cuts him off. A native speaker can probably give you a transcription of the quote that is 100% complete, but I think the point is very clear.
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Delpij
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they are talking playing bc games here
but this is not a surprise; depending on usage ssd temp alone are high
ex 970 pro with various heat sink :
and in one way it's not that a bad thing ms cartridge come with its own form 'heatsink'.
the console need to cool two of them though
Chaud devant!
Zheph
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The is exactly it and I’m a native french speaker
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That's not what he is saying. The NDA forbids them to talk about ANYTHING of the hardware. Reason for this is probably because it has to go together with their marketing campaign. Every 2 weeks they take the lit of something new, and then people can discuss it. I don't think this is because of heating issuesSo, the issue is under STRICT NDA. It's there, Microsoft knows about it, and they are telling people NOT to talk about it.
And we have to hear people preaching us about Sony's controlled show in Japan. Gee...
What do you mean by this? That those people got prototypes and there's nothing to worry about because it's not the same as actual retail consoles?
TBiddy
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Violente can also mean high or severe. But I get why the obvious choice would be violent (since it's close to violente).
Sw0pDiller
Member
And that's running in BC mode. Not fully taking advantage of velocity architecture and RDNA2 features, those two would heat up the console even more. I am curious how this play out. Seems like the SSD does not need active cooling so the fan is not turned on. maybe they let it run hot (normal working conditions) and shield the APU from its heat and the fan only kicks in when the APU itself generates heat. that could bite them in the ass when the system is on for prolongued time.
martino
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That's the point: your 7 years of french study means absolutely nothing unless you have lived within that culture. A word by word traslation is fine, but there is more to the innuendos than just a couple of words translated. Source: my being bilingual Italian-American and attended both the Italian and American school systems with lots of Japanese students to boot. Basically a messy past
i'm french and basically here the worry is that they can't test the console with next gen games to see how it behaves.
it's hot doing bc stuff.
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Mr Moose
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Hmm, was the first group who said about it being hot just talking about the removable SSD or the console its self?
Are these just talking about the hot air being pushed out or...
Wonder if we'll see more reports like this and if they'll go into detail about it.
TBiddy
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In BC mode the console is most likely running full steam. As Toadman put it:
Lunatic_Gamer
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Play Has No Limits
Delpij
Member
Yes, that's exactly what he's saying (native french speaker).
Right before that, he said that, if it's confirmed that the PS5 is cool, it is excellent news for the console, that he's unsure he should say how hot the Series X is running.
Delpij
Member
There is true beauty in shortening the life expectancy of your console by playing old games.
BlueXImpulse
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You guys want some good news? In a little over a month we won't have to speculate anymore!
TBiddy
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wellgamer789
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PlayStation 5 3.03 hmm
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
It is depressing. I was watching the latest Red Gaming Tech video this morning, a channel that is balanced and has actual insight into how the tech works and likely performance of hardware based on reason and understanding. The video had 30k views and I looked at the side panel and saw Dealer's latest FUD video was at 60k. The land of Youtube (and society as a whole) seems to be more of an idiocracy than a meritocracy
BlueXImpulse
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BatSu
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And you know that?
FranXico
Member
Do you know the difference between a console and a resistor?Do you idiots know that all the electricity you supply to your console gets converted to thermal energy ?
TBiddy
Member
People will post whatever backs up their belief. The amount of tweets that have been posted over the years from timdog, blueisviolet, Roberto and whichever else is trying to pass as an insider is insane.
Yoboman
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Does this mean we will get a real browser on PS5?
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BlueXImpulse
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I know that for certain. He was exposed when he made five predictions for what the date for the PS5 show was and got every single one of them wrong.
Sw0pDiller
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But the games cap at 60 fps (i have not seen footage of a BC game running faster), surely a 12TF GPU can handle last gen games at more fps than that? That makes me think BC mode is not letting the APU destroy itself.
sircaw
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FranXico
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Depends on how you feel about Mozilla. Is it a big improvement over the PS4 browser?
sircaw
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Play Has No Limits
sometimes i just don't realize just how good the studio's Sony has at their disposal.
i mean just look at those, a hell of a pedigree if i ever saw it.
TBiddy
Member
Games that run a locked 60 FPS usually runs a higher FPS 'behind the scenes'.
Yoboman
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I dont think the PS4 browser has been updated since 2013, so anything would be an improvement
Gediminas
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it is funny and the same time pity to watch these xbox losers.
when some random comment under random youtube video appeared with comment that PS5 is overheating, xboxers jumped high horse and ride with it for months
and look at them now, influencers got xbox sx, testing it, and reporting that is it running hot, violent hot, and now the same xboxers downplaying it
this is gold. hilarious
p.s. got a ban. stating facts now is bannable.
when some random comment under random youtube video appeared with comment that PS5 is overheating, xboxers jumped high horse and ride with it for months
and look at them now, influencers got xbox sx, testing it, and reporting that is it running hot, violent hot, and now the same xboxers downplaying it
this is gold. hilarious p.s. got a ban. stating facts now is bannable.
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Vae_Victis
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Predictions he got right so far: zero
Prodections he got wrong so far: every single one
He jumps on every bandwagon he sees trying to act as if he knows something everybody else doesn't. A piece of information starts floating around he immediately "confirms" it to get in the spotlight, even if later on it turns out it was wrong. Even random impossible shit he finds on 4Chan sometimes, he's that desperate.
I lost count of the amount of PS games and events he teased in the Summer that never happened or were on a completely different timeline than he predicted.
EDIT: I forgot, he also immensely oversells his journalist background in the hope that non-Italian people will believe he's a big fish (and it works somehow, I've even heard RedGamingTech quote him as an actual Italian journalist). In truth he only wrote for a tiny, obscure online website (we're talking 20-clicks-per-article small) that talks about gaming and electronics in general, and on which he never published a single piece of insider information. Somehow his magical contacts in the industry only manifested after he left, apparently.
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Blue Spring
Read my tears about xbox here --->
Its fucking crazy. Those people are legit mental.it is funny and the same time pity to watch these xbox losers.
when some random comment under random youtube video appeared with comment that PS5 is overheating, xboxers jumped high horse and ride with it for months
and look at them now, influencers got xbox sx, testing it, and reporting that is it running hot, violent hot, and now the same xboxers downplaying it
Aladin
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Bud, heat dissipation and overheating positive loop are inversely related. Quote me if I am wrong.it is funny and the same time pity to watch these xbox losers.
when some random comment under random youtube video appeared with comment that PS5 is overheating, xboxers jumped high horse and ride with it for months
and look at them now, influencers got xbox sx, testing it, and reporting that is it running hot, violent hot, and now the same xboxers downplaying it
sircaw
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it is funny and the same time pity to watch these xbox losers.
when some random comment under random youtube video appeared with comment that PS5 is overheating, xboxers jumped high horse and ride with it for months
and look at them now, influencers got xbox sx, testing it, and reporting that is it running hot, violent hot, and now the same xboxers downplaying it
I won't say its everyone xbox user around, there are a quite a few decent and reasonable ones about in this thread, but yes there are a couple that really have been sniffing the glue a bit to much.
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