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I'm flabbergasted...
DF makes videos with the most dumb-proof explanations possible and people still fail to understand what they are saying and somehow this is DF's fault and mistakes/disinformation? How the hell does this happen?!



This is all so wrong, for both cases.
The overclocked 5700 was an exercise to see how true was Cerny's statement that higher clock is better than more CUs.
For the 2060 is because this is the lower-end GeForce RTX available, and the consoles will probably have modest RT power. He picked the weakest RTX GPU to test how games could work with RT at barely playable framerates, what they would have to sacrifice in quality. What was being discussed was RT only not rasterization, you people are retards, specially native english speakers because you have no excuse to not understand what is being said.

Cerny's statement was if you had two GPUs with the same tflop capabilities, the one with the higher clock speed but less CU would perform better

Get it right

 

[kyliethicc]

I disagree movies with Dolby vision look spectacular on my TV..

You do realize I said why right? Read

 

[VargasPaPuM]

Free HDR in all games? this is cooll

 

[On Demand]

Osiris called the Bethesda purchase...
I don't care what anyone says I feel his game info was good.

No he didn't. And he admitted everything he said about PS5 was BS. Nobody caught that. Go search his last post on here.

 

[BlueXImpulse]

This is all so wrong, for both cases.
The overclocked 5700 was an exercise to see how true was Cerny's statement that higher clock is better than more CUs.

I know that. This is what I was getting at.

What Richard did was see how close a 5700 could get to a higher CU 5700XT

What the hell do you think I meant here?

For the 2060 is because this is the lower-end GeForce RTX available, and the consoles will probably have modest RT power. He picked the weakest RTX GPU to test how games could work with RT at barely playable framerates, what they would have to sacrifice in quality. What was being discussed was RT only not rasterization, you people are retards, specially native english speakers because you have no excuse to not understand what is being said.

Except you're wrong.

Here are Alex's exact words

Once again the RTX 2060S was non-arbitrarily chosen because it will be competitve or comparable to the PS5 GPU - not because it is the exact same. To repeat: NOT BECAUSE THE RTX 2060 SUPER IS THE EXACT SAME AS THE PS5 GPU. We could have gone with an RTX 2070S, but after talking with the Team we thought the RTX 2060S Was the better GPU comparison.

And here is another quote

He was referring to overall GPU performance.

Don't just barge in here quoting me with nonsense.

 

[MasterCornholio]

How i would like AMD RDNA 2 cards had in fact infinity cache and PS5 too. Would be funny listen to these guys and their comparissons. Maybe XSX without that cache is in fact (where we have seen ZERO RT rays running) the 2600 super mini. Just maybe.

First time I'm hearing about this Infinity Cache thing.

But to sum it up it means more cache for each CU and that can aid with raytracing. Is this correct?

 

[sircaw]

Another Xbox FUD spreader who got exposed multiple times.

It's like Turkeys voting for Christmas with these fucking idiots.

Their constant war of Fud took a major arse pounding today.
Reality checks all around for the toxic fanboys.


Ps5 load times are AMAZING
The console is whisper Quiet
The Console is colder than an xbox exclusive launch day
DEMON SOULS, SPIDERMAN MM, GOD FALL, BUG-F~UCK~ING-SNAXS.

Sony loves there Fans they are even throwing in AstroBoy for free, it will probably score 90%, kind of run of the mill for Sony exclusives but what can we do.

ITS A FUCKING LANDSLIDE OF WONDERFUL INFORMATION IF you're A PS5 fan.

In the next couple of weeks, we will get quick load times for older games, WTF is going to happen if they are quicker than you know who.....

Bo_Hazem , Bryank75 came back today

TODAY IS THE GIFT THAT KEEPS ON GIVING.

 

[kyliethicc]

OK the source being the game itself or the console.. I ask because Netflix has no "source" I am casting it from my phone, the movie either has Dolby vision or it doesn't. My phone doesn't have Dolby vision.

If you're casting video from your phone then its not gonna be Dolby Vision 4K 4:4:4 with 12 bit color HDR lol

You're streaming shitty compressed internet video lossy codec on Netflix. Even if the movie was mastered in Dolby Vision & Atmos, you're not streaming loseless TrueHD audio or 12bpc HDR 4:4:4 2160p video.

 

[amstradcpc]

First time I'm hearing about this Infinity Cache thing.

But to sum it up it means more cache for each CU and that can aid with raytracing. Is this correct?

Yes, is why big Navi is rumored to have enough with 256 bits RAM bandwidth ( like PS5 has ). The rumor says there is a 128 MB of cache inside the chip that would make traveling to the graphics RAM less frecuent. We already know IO module in PS5 has SRAM, could be this cache...

 

[saintjules]

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[DaGwaphics]

And that happens also way before the 9 months period that you conveniently forgot.And do you think that when they test the console they just bring them home and normaly play ?They don't stress test everything possible? That's such a naive way of thinking.The truth is that the european lead free solder law fucked them and they just said fuck it.

To recap your points is there are no lawsuit ....... well yeah there are but I dismissed them because they have good lawyers ...... to they couldn't know because the first wave of problem happened after 8 months of normal use.... to yeah they stress test it but it couldn't have shown up for reasons.... to yeah it happen sometimes faster than 9 months but it's just bad luck.
And the most relevant of points yeah but they upped the warranty.....which has nothing to do about the fact that they knew they had a fuckton of faulty units.

This will be my last post on this, just because it's an old dead issue and because of the way you piece these childish ideas together. The book details very closely the production faults (that were mostly related to the cheap memory and disk drive used in the early units and were not related to RRoD) and the solder change issue which did trigger warnings from engineers that were ignored to launch on schedule. However, there is a big difference between not doing enough testing on the lead-free units to catch these issues and intentionally releasing broken units that would cost $1b to cover (eliminating all profits from the venture). By your logic, there would never be recalls because every issue is caught and correcting in product testing, that's not the case by any stretch of the imagination. You could argue that in many instances the manufacture knows about problem x for quite some time before instituting a recall, but even that is a far cry from intentionally releasing the product broken in the first place.

Regarding legal cases, anyone can file frivolous lawsuits, so, obviously only cases with merit are important.

 

[duhmetree]

Navi 22 will be faster than 2060S no? More like 3060 or 3070

Isn't the PS5 gpu essentially a cut down Navi22 at this point?

 

[PSX]

We know already, it's not per se you like, it's her...

All going to my belly it's Bugsnax!

 

[thebigmanjosh]

Question for this Gen.. As someone who loves Dolby vision in movies.. What does that mean if XSX has it but ps5 does not.. If in fact that is the case. Is DOLBY vision a games thing or just a TV thing.

TL;DR: It means nothing for games on today’s TVs other than marketing.

Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe the biggest difference between HDR on film vs games is the need for dynamic metadata, so Dolby Vision on consoles basically comes down to a difference in peak brightness (4,000 vs 10,000) and color depth (10 bit vs 12 bit).

No consumer tv gets anywhere near 4,000 nits let alone 10,000 (most don’t even hit 1,000) and I can’t think of any that support 12bit @4k60.

 

[MasterCornholio]

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I'll definitely try out Astrobot to see the new features that the controller has. Really curious about what the triggers feel like.

 

[DaGwaphics]

I love that as a quality of life feature, I've missed that on the current gen pads.

 

[sircaw]

I'll definitely try out Astrobot to see the new features that the controller has. Really curious about what the triggers feel like.

my only worry with the game is i hope its not a 30 min demo game.

It looks so awesome i want it to be a full-blown game.

 

[devilNprada]

If you're casting video from your phone then its not gonna be Dolby Vision 4K 4:4:4 with 12 bit color HDR lol

You're streaming shitty compressed internet video lossy codec on Netflix. Even if the movie was mastered in Dolby Vision & Atmos, you're not streaming loseless TrueHD audio or 12bpc HDR 4:4:4 2160p video.

Yeah I have to check if I am casting from the phone or using the TV app I do both and may have misspoke..
But I do think when I see that Dolby vision pop up in the corner the picture is extremely clear.

 

[XinTniX]

Free HDR in all games? this is cooll

Holy Sh*** I can't wait to play again all these games!!!!

 

[LED Guy?]

It's like Turkeys voting for Christmas with these fucking idiots.

Their constant war of Fud took a major arse pounding today.
Reality checks all around for the toxic fanboys.


Ps5 load times are AMAZING
The console is whisper Quiet
The Console is colder than an xbox exclusive launch day
DEMON SOULS, SPIDERMAN MM, GOD FALL, BUG-F~UCK~ING-SNAXS.

Sony loves there Fans they are even throwing in AstroBoy for free, it will probably score 90%, kind of run of the mill for Sony exclusives but what can we do.

ITS A FUCKING LANDSLIDE OF WONDERFUL INFORMATION IF you're A PS5 fan.

In the next couple of weeks, we will get quick load times for older games, WTF is going to happen if they are quicker than you know who.....

Bo_Hazem , Bryank75 came back today

TODAY IS THE GIFT THAT KEEPS ON GIVING.

Facts! I agree a 100% and Bugsnax looks better graphically than Halo Infinite in my opinion, and yeah I'm also happy that Bo_Hazem and Bryank75 are back! I bet Mod of War did his amazing work as always!!

Craig and his uncle are happy with us.

 

[VargasPaPuM]

 

[silent head]

Navi 22 will be faster than 2060S no? More like 3060 or 3070

Isn't the PS5 gpu essentially a cut down Navi22 at this point?

rx 5700xt (rdna 1 ) faster than 2070

navi 22 will be faster than 2080S

 

[iamvin22]

All generations BC is one thing that Sony never will have.

Video of xsx games being played is something you don't have. See how that works

 

[mancs]

 

[VargasPaPuM]

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next gen for goofies

 

[kyliethicc]

Yeah I have to check if I am casting from the phone or using the TV app I do both and may have misspoke..
But I do think when I see that Dolby vision pop up in the corner the picture is extremely clear.

If you're streaming the video, its shit. Use physical media if you want quality A/V for. No video streamed is even close to regular BD quality, even at 1080p SDR. Its compressed internet potato bitrate codecs. And the audio is lossy.

And your TV cannot even come close to showing 2160p HDR with 12 bit color over 1000+ nits brightness.

 

[PSX]

Best look inside the console so far

From the vents look, it seems the fan is big I was worried about the fan being small, but we can't really tell until the teardown event happen. hurry up Sony

 

[VargasPaPuM]

Video of xsx games being played is something you don't have. See how that works

really just look youtube

 

[dotnotbot]

really just look youtube

He said XSX games, not Xbox One games

 

[Wraith Phantom]

rx 5700xt (rdna 1 ) faster than 2070

navi 22 will be faster than 2080S

OOfff


I don't know why PC fallen race don't get it. Leave this PS5 alone. It's not 2013.You are just going wreck yourself. Leave this PS5 alone. Before you end up like Linus tech ,looking goofy ,doing apologies.

Digital fraudery are not engineers. Nor are they devs not one of them has made a game. Stop listening to these goofy dudes that have no clue.

 

[MasterCornholio]

From the vents look, it seems the fan is big I was worried about the fan being small, but we can't really tell until the teardown event happen. hurry up Sony

It looks like there might be one fan on each side.

 

[sircaw]

I bet this is how Mark Cerny feels like atm.

 

[mancs]

all together now...


Kinda bug and kinda snack
Try to catch 'em in your trap
Feed somebody and you'll see
We are whatever we eat
Find 'em hiding in the sand
Tearing up a ketchup patch
Come to Snaktooth Island and
Discover its Bugsnax
I heard that somewhere far off in the ocean
There lies an island where the creatures roam
A famed explorer tells me they're delicious and yet
They're hitherto unknown
You might think it sounds impossible
'Til you've seen a carrot crawl
Kinda bug and kinda snack
Try to catch 'em in your trap
Feed somebody and you'll see
We are whatever we eat
Find 'em hiding in the sand
Tearing up a ketchup patch
Come to Snaktooth Island and
Discover its Bugsnax
Oh-oo-oh
It's Bugsnax
Oh-oo-oh
Talkin' 'bout Bugsnax
Oh-oo-oh
It's Bugsnax
And if the rumour's not complete baloney
Then it's the story of the century
So grab a journal listen up and make some new friends
To solve the mystery
An expedition thirteen-strong
Of Grumpuses who all set off
Seeking out a better life
On Snaktooth Island they did find
A tasty quest to fill the hole
That many feel inside their soul
Venture deep to reach the truth
And maybe you'll learn something too
You might think it sounds impossible
'Til you've seen a sandwich climb a wall
Kinda bug and kinda snack
Try to catch 'em in your trap
Feed somebody and you'll see
We are whatever we eat
Find 'em hiding in the sand
Tearing up a ketchup patch
Come to Snaktooth Island and
Discover its Bugsnax
Oh-oo-oh
It's Bugsnax
Oh-oo-oh
Talkin' 'bout Bugsnax
Oh-oo-oh
It's Bugsnax
Oh-oo-oh
Everyone's talkin' 'bout Bugsnax

 

[MasterCornholio]

really just look youtube

There's not a lot of footage of XSX games to be honest. There's loads of footage of BC titles though.

all together now...

It's crazy how much the game is getting talked about. Hopefully it ends up being good.

 

[Yoboman]

Best look inside the console so far

 

[icy121]

 

[aclar00]

Shes about as hot as that chick with green hair that all the kids love today,

Cant remember her music but it makes me want to drive myself of a cliff when i hear it.

blasphemy! You take that bsck. Dont talk about Sarah like that.

 

[kyliethicc]

6-1 lol Ole's at the wheel

 

[mancs]

it could be a new pokkeymarn?
grumpanati?? lol.
i'm interested , i love quirky.
MasterCornholio

 

[Wraith Phantom]

 

[Neo Blaster]

Dolby Vision is useless spec for at least 3+ years.

Its basically just HDR10 but with 12 bit color, but there's basically no content that is mastered at 12 bit color. Especially any that can be seen on modern TVs.

No HDR 4K TV today can go over 1000 nits sustained HDR, and at less than 1000 nits brightness, most people can't even tell the difference between HDR 10 bit color and HDR10+/Dolby Vision 12 bit color. HDR10 video is capped at 1000 nits to hide the color banding that can be seen at higher brightness, which the 12 bit color depth can help fix. But you'll likely be unable to notice any difference with current TVs.

As long as you have a HDR10 display with sustained brightness over 500-600 nits when displaying HDR content, you're good. And almost no games are ever going to be mastered to meet HDR10+/Dolby Vision/HLG spec.

We'll be lucky if most games can even deliver solid HDR implementations that can meet the HDR10 spec, for the next few years at least.

Isn't Dolby Vision more like HDR10+ but proprietary? I thought their main feature was dynamic metadata.

 

[MasterCornholio]

it could be a new pokkeymarn?
grumpanati?? lol.
i'm interested , i love quirky.
MasterCornholio

It's from the same ones who made Octodad and I didn't find it bad.

 

[Neo Blaster]

this comment is true next gen

If you can feel that properly with your hands, then yes, it's a feature not available in current gen. You should check your blood pressure, your salt levels must be off the charts.

 

[mancs]

It's from the same ones who made Octodad and I didn't find it bad.

never played it tbh , this title looks more directed , could be deeper than it appears , interesting premise..bugsnax

 

[MasterCornholio]

never played it tbh , this title looks more directed , could be deeper than it appears , interesting premise..bugsnax

Well you should check out some footage. It's really weird.

 

[sircaw]

I can not see this being true.

What's it gonna look like, stick men.

I saw the dirt game at 120 it looked like shit.

 

[Bladed Thesis]

6-1 lol Ole's at the wheel

Ole take the wheel.

 

[PSX]

Thank you

 

[thurnishaleygw]

Uh oh, VargasPaPuM has arrived, prepare for an increase in salt levels.

 

[MasterCornholio]

this comment is true next gen

It's using Haptics. Which means it can produce vibrations alot quicker than rumble can. That's why the vibrations can end up being more accurate.