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[Birdo]

This is the most beautiful/futuristic console ever created

Considering the future looks bleak, I agree.

 

[Neo Blaster]

pre recorded no live

Uh oh, VargasPaPuM has arrived, prepare for an increase in salt levels.

 

[xacto]

He has no proof of this he's just saying it. But when it comes to PS5, proof is definitely required for Gavdium.

What proof, when you can simply pull out stuff like this straight from the ass?

Am telling you, Tales from the Crypt ain't got nothing on Tales from the Ass.

 

[Nickolaidas]

IbelieveinGenerations was permed

Console wars are no joke.

 

[FunkMiller]

What proof, when you can simply pull out stuff like this straight from the ass?

Am telling you, Tales from the Crypt ain't got nothing on Tales from the Ass.

Is that one with Jenna Jameson in it?

 

[Insane Metal]

It was without a tag ffs. You're always loved, like Pele.

Oh my, now I feel loved again. Thank you!

 

[Nickolaidas]

This is what he actually thinks



XVA > PS5 IO

Damn you, Odium! Damn you! I thought you were better than this!

 

[devilNprada]

Question for this Gen.. As someone who loves Dolby vision in movies.. What does that mean if XSX has it but ps5 does not.. If in fact that is the case. Is DOLBY vision a games thing or just a TV thing.

 

[xacto]

Is that one with Jenna Jameson in it?

I like you, mate. Also Batman.

 

[Neo Blaster]

Question for this Gen.. As someone who loves Dolby vision in movies.. What does that mean if XSX has it but ps5 does not.. If in fact that is the case. Is DOLBY vision a games thing or just a TV thing.

Dolby Vision is paid HDR, we have to ask whether Sony wanted to include that cost in every console and devs are willing to implement it. And don't forget people need compatible tv sets.

 

[DaGwaphics]

The stresses used in HALT are typically hot and cold temperatures, temperature cycles, random vibration, power margining, and power cycling. The product under test is in operation during HALT and is continuously monitored for failures. As stress-induced failures occur, the cause should be determined, and if possible, the problem should be repaired so that the test can continue to find other weaknesses.

One, a lot of 360 QA testing was done on lead solder units and not completely repeated on the final lead-free units (a mistake, but anything different would have caused a delay), Two, RRoD for most users occurred after many, many temperature cycles. In any type of manufacturing, failures that occur after months or years of use are harder to spot than those that occur more quickly or just occur as a design failure. If 360s were frequently overheating during use, that would have been easier to spot, etc. Obviously, the OG Xbox 360 units were passing the testing procedures completed prior to packaging, whatever threshold those may have been.

 

[devilNprada]

Dolby Vision is paid HDR, we have to ask whether Sony wanted to include that cost in every console and devs are willing to implement it.

So it can be used for games? Every Sony TV has it hence why I am wondering what benefit would it have for a console?

 

[VargasPaPuM]

This is the most beautiful/futuristic console ever created

netgear design it for Sony

 

[DaGwaphics]

They were and they were warned about that. Nevertheless, they relesead a console

I'll take the word of those that worked on the project over yours.

Robbie Bach' doesn't sugar coat anything in that book, it goes over all the last minute changes that lead to production issues etc. He didn't spare MS there, I doubt he would alter the timeline to make them look better.

 

[Garani]

pre recorded no live

Oh my! Like we didn't notice!

/s

Same room, same console, 8 concurrent streams, 2 of which made by VTubers, and obvious gameplay cuts. You know, you gotta have a PhD to be on NeoGAF nowadays.

 

[Physiognomonics]

One thing I find super funny,
Is when he said XBSX BC is running BC in GCN mode.

So why isn't the CPU running jaguar mode?
Why isn't RDNA 1 GPUs running PC games in GCN mode?
Will the PS5 run games in GCN mode or is it an Xbox exclusive thing?
Does RDNA 2 have no real improvement with IPC gains?

So many questions with no answers.
Did Richard create some kind of GPU Paradox?

It's just damage control because of disappointing BC performance in some games.

 

[Md Ray]

This is what he actually thinks



XVA > PS5 IO

Man, I really wish Matt Hargett to kick this clown's ass for spreading FUD.

 

[sircaw]

netgear design it for Sony

you must feel like a dinosaur took a shit on you today m8, will all this awesome ps5 news about.

 

[TGO]

Wait....no way he said Demon Souls is not as impressive as Halo Infinite
Right?

 

[BlueXImpulse]

【PS5先行体験】「Godfall」を試遊！ 超美麗グラフィックスながらロード時間が皆無でサクサク

　プレイステーション 5のローンチタイトルとして発売される「Godfall」。次世代コンソール機のパワーを感じられる美麗なグラフィックスと、TPS視点の近接戦闘に特化したド派手なアクションを特徴としたルータースラッシャーアクションRPGだ。最大3人でも協力プレイにも対応しており、PS5発売日当日に友達と一緒に遊ぶ約束をしている人もいるのではないだろうか。

game.watch.impress.co.jp

This article says Godfall was 4K 120fps. Personally I don't believe that. But that's what it says

 

[silent head]

this one is for people who are wondering

 

[sircaw]

【PS5先行体験】「Godfall」を試遊！ 超美麗グラフィックスながらロード時間が皆無でサクサク

　プレイステーション 5のローンチタイトルとして発売される「Godfall」。次世代コンソール機のパワーを感じられる美麗なグラフィックスと、TPS視点の近接戦闘に特化したド派手なアクションを特徴としたルータースラッシャーアクションRPGだ。最大3人でも協力プレイにも対応しており、PS5発売日当日に友達と一緒に遊ぶ約束をしている人もいるのではないだろうか。

game.watch.impress.co.jp

This article says Godfall was 4K 120fps. Personally I don't believe that. But that's what it says

I agree with you, Ps5 is good but that is mental lol

 

[BlueXImpulse]

Man, I really wish Matt Hargett to kick this clown's ass for spreading FUD.

No need for Matt to waste his time with fake xbox fanboy devs posing as neutral gamers like Gav.

 

[devilNprada]

netgear design it for Sony

Hey you're an Xbox fanboy.. Maybe you can answer for me what benefit does a console get by having Dolby vision? If my TV has it does my console also need it?

 

[Dodkrake]

this one is for people who are wondering

These people need psychiatric treatment. Like, ASAP

 

[Lysandros]

If he fails as a developer (quite likely), he would be a perfect match for the DF crew.

 

[zaitsu]

The only thing i hope is that Sony studios will render games in lower resolution and use CB or something more in par with DLSS. Rendering in native 4K is just waste of resources when you can push other things.

 

[VargasPaPuM]

you must feel like a dinosaur took a shit on you today m8, will all this awesome ps5 news about.

 

[On Demand]

I knew trolldium was a xbox fanboy. He was the one talking garbage about PS5 specs like he had inside info. Osiris too. Both of them were here just to post lies. Wouldn't be surprised if they got paid.

 

[Kagey K]

Maybe you can answer for me what benefit does a console get by having Dolby vision? If my TV has it does my console also need it?

For your tv to display Dolby Vision the source has to output in Dolby as well, and yes the XB Series will be using Dolby for games as well as Tv/Movie apps.

 

[TheFarter]

No need for Matt to waste his time with fake xbox fanboy devs posing as neutral gamers like Gav.

So he's a fake xbox fanboy? Looks real to me. We need more Tidux and Foxy.

 

[sircaw]

today has cut you deep my friend, i be you feel like your legs have been taken from beneath you.

The good news is Sony is making more consoles, you can still order one, its not to late.

 

[kyliethicc]

Question for this Gen.. As someone who loves Dolby vision in movies.. What does that mean if XSX has it but ps5 does not.. If in fact that is the case. Is DOLBY vision a games thing or just a TV thing.

Dolby Vision is useless spec for at least 3+ years.

Its basically just HDR10 but with 12 bit color, but there's basically no content that is mastered at 12 bit color. Especially any that can be seen on modern TVs.

No HDR 4K TV today can go over 1000 nits sustained HDR, and at less than 1000 nits brightness, most people can't even tell the difference between HDR 10 bit color and HDR10+/Dolby Vision 12 bit color. HDR10 video is capped at 1000 nits to hide the color banding that can be seen at higher brightness, which the 12 bit color depth can help fix. But you'll likely be unable to notice any difference with current TVs.

As long as you have a HDR10 display with sustained brightness over 500-600 nits when displaying HDR content, you're good. And almost no games are ever going to be mastered to meet HDR10+/Dolby Vision/HLG spec.

We'll be lucky if most games can even deliver solid HDR implementations that can meet the HDR10 spec, for the next few years at least.

 

[VargasPaPuM]

【PS5先行体験】「Godfall」を試遊！ 超美麗グラフィックスながらロード時間が皆無でサクサク

　プレイステーション 5のローンチタイトルとして発売される「Godfall」。次世代コンソール機のパワーを感じられる美麗なグラフィックスと、TPS視点の近接戦闘に特化したド派手なアクションを特徴としたルータースラッシャーアクションRPGだ。最大3人でも協力プレイにも対応しており、PS5発売日当日に友達と一緒に遊ぶ約束をしている人もいるのではないだろうか。

game.watch.impress.co.jp

This article says Godfall was 4K 120fps. Personally I don't believe that. But that's what it says

this comment is true next gen

 

[Radical Dreamer]

subtitles x;

 

[Insane Metal]

This is what he actually thinks



XVA > PS5 IO

Well of course he does. lol

 

[Neo Blaster]

this one is for people who are wondering

And this is what happens when fanboys run out of FUD and go berserk.

 

[devilNprada]

I knew trolldium was a xbox fanboy. He was the one talking garbage about PS5 specs like he had inside info. Osiris too. Both of them were here just to post lies. Wouldn't be surprised if they got paid.

Osiris called the Bethesda purchase...
I don't care what anyone says I feel his game info was good.

 

[LED Guy?]

This is what he actually thinks



XVA > PS5 IO

Another Xbox FUD spreader who got exposed multiple times.

 

[kyliethicc]

Pleeeeeaaassse stop posting the fucking pigeon guy

 

[VargasPaPuM]

Dolby Vision is useless spec for at least 3+ years.

Its basically just HDR10 but with 12 bit color, but there's basically no content that is mastered at 12 bit color. Especially any that can be seen on modern TVs.

No HDR 4K TV today can go over 1000 nits sustained HDR, and at less than 1000 nits brightness, most people can't even tell the difference between HDR 10 bit color and HDR10+/Dolby Vision 12 bit color. HDR10 video is capped at 1000 nits to hide the color banding that can be seen at higher brightness, which the 12 bit color depth can help fix. But you'll likely be unable to notice any difference with current TVs.

As long as you have a HDR10 display with sustained brightness over 500-600 nits when displaying HDR content, you're good. And almost no games are ever going to be mastered to meet HDR10+/Dolby Vision/HLG spec.

We'll be lucky if most games can even deliver solid HDR implementations that can meet the HDR10 spec, for the next few years at least.

I never heard soooo many garbage

 

[duhmetree]

Are these peopling fanboying for free or are they paid shills?

I've never seen anything like this... nevermind... This is literally like the Fake News Media.

 

[zubairali2]

And this is what happens when fanboys run out of FUD and go berserk.

they cant talk shit about astros playroom loading times anymore.

"uhhhh, HEY! NO CABLES! AHABSBANSKANSJ"

 

[kyliethicc]

I never heard soooo many garbage

"First, should you worry about the more limited color and brightness range of HDR10 and 10-bit color? The answer right now is no, don’t worry too much about it. Getting much beyond 1k nits in an HDR display simply isn’t doable right now. Nor can most any display go beyond the smaller P3 gamut. And because a lot of content is mastered and transmitted in 10-bit color, 12-bit color hardware isn’t going to do much for you today anyway."

What Is 10-Bit (And 12-Bit) Color?

So, 10-bit color: It's important and new, but...what is it?

www.tomshardware.com

 

[devilNprada]

For your tv to display Dolby Digital the source has to output in Dolby as well, and yes the XB1 will be using Dolby for games as well as Tv/Movie apps.

OK the source being the game itself or the console.. I ask because Netflix has no "source" I am casting it from my phone, the movie either has Dolby vision or it doesn't. My phone doesn't have Dolby vision.

 

[Epic Sax CEO]

I'm flabbergasted...
DF makes videos with the most dumb-proof explanations possible and people still fail to understand what they are saying and somehow this is DF's fault and mistakes/disinformation? How the hell does this happen?!

I figured it out. They still believe that Richard's RDNA1 tests of overclocking a 5700 in comparison to a stock 5700XT are relevant when it comes to RDNA2. What Richard did was see how close a 5700 could get to a higher CU 5700XT and it fell short but that's due to the limitations of the architecture at higher clock speeds. This didn't stop Richard though.

Another theory of mine is that they still believe PS5 to be 9TF. 5700 is a 7.9TF GPU (2060 class) and 5700XT is a 9.7TF GPU (2070 class). From what Alex is saying he thinks PS5 falls somewhere in between that which would land it conveniently around the 9TF mark which would be roughly a 2060S.

This is all so wrong, for both cases.
The overclocked 5700 was an exercise to see how true was Cerny's statement that higher clock is better than more CUs.
For the 2060 is because this is the lower-end GeForce RTX available, and the consoles will probably have modest RT power. He picked the weakest RTX GPU to test how games could work with RT at barely playable framerates, what they would have to sacrifice in quality. What was being discussed was RT only not rasterization, you people are retards, specially native english speakers because you have no excuse to not understand what is being said.

 

[MasterCornholio]

today has cut you deep my friend, i be you feel like your legs have been taken from beneath you.

The good news is Sony is making more consoles, you can still order one, its not to late.

I think he's broken. He's sentence structure really took a hit. It's almost Meirl levels of dumb in my opinion. He really needs to just accept what he saw and move on.

 

[devilNprada]

Dolby Vision is useless spec for at least 3+ years.

I disagree movies with Dolby vision look spectacular on my TV..

 

[amstradcpc]

I'm flabbergasted...
DF makes videos with the most dumb-proof explanations possible and people still fail to understand what they are saying and somehow this is DF's fault and mistakes/disinformation? How the hell does this happen?!



This is all so wrong, for both cases.
The overclocked 5700 was an exercise to see how true was Cerny's statement that higher clock is better than more CUs.
For the 2060 is because this is the lower-end GeForce RTX available, and the consoles will probably have modest RT power. He picked the weakest RTX GPU to test how games could work with RT at barely playable framerates, what they would have to sacrifice in quality. What was being discussed was RT only not rasterization, you people are retards, specially native english speakers because you have no excuse to not understand what is being said.

How i would like AMD RDNA 2 cards had in fact infinity cache and PS5 too. Would be funny listen to these guys and their comparissons. Maybe XSX without that cache is in fact (where we have seen ZERO RT rays running) the 2600 super mini. Just maybe.

 

[Kagey K]

OK the source being the game itself or the console.. I ask because Netflix has no "source" I am casting it from my phone, the movie either has Dolby vision or it doesn't. My phone doesn't have Dolby vision.

A combination of both, the console supports Dolby Vision for everything but the game may or may not support it. If the game doesn’t support it It won’t display in Dolby.

Similar to how some shows and movies are Dolby on Netflix, while others are in 4K/HD or HDR formats.