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[ZywyPL]

That is just cinematic version, you obviously haven't looked at/seen the gameplay portion in the gameplay video or the screen caps they shared and you willfully ignore, so... ??

I did, the 60FPS looks the same as the PS4 version, just runs faster. And there are two reasoning for this - firstly, the original SM already looks fantastic, there's hardly anything that could've been done better, other than truly remastering the game from the ground up for new hardware like CoD4 or Demon Souls, remodeling not just Peter's face but every single model and every texture in the game. And secondly, Miles Morales doesn't look that much better than the PS4 title to begin with, it's basically the same game except in native 4K instead of 1440p + lot of particles + RT reflections. From a PC guy's perspective the difference is basically RTX on vs RTX off, nothing more.

you're joking right?

Check the above post.

 

[ethomaz]

Do we have footage, or images of an XsX raytraced game? I’m not saying it will no be able to do RT, probably a bit better than PS5, but can’t remember seeing something.

You have BC gameplay footage on Xbox Series X.

 

[xacto]

...


.........

Now.

Seriously.

If Demon's Souls environments looked like this.




Like this shitty forest in Halo Infinite.

Can you fathom the shitstorm the PS5 would get from those people? The ridicule and the mocking? Those same people who have the gull, the utter shamelessness of calling Demon's Souls on the PS5 a PS3 port?

Yet, somehow ... in Halo Infinite ... hardly a problem! It looked FINE.

... until MS did the right thing and pushed the release back. Then suddenly, all Xbox hardcore fanboys would claim it was the right call and the game needed work.

It's this blatant hypocrisy which rubs me the wrong way.

Yes, you people. You hypocrites who call Demon's Souls hardly impressive and a PS3 port, you would SHIT YOUR PANTS and LOSE YOUR SHIT if Halo Infinite looked like Demon's Souls, if it had those textures, those weather effects, that lighting. You would CRY FROM THE ROOFTOPS and flood every corner on twitter shouting how MS has already won, and how the PS5 was doomed from the start.

That's how much you need a win. That's how utterly blind you have become.

That's why you cling to numbers.

Because that's all you have. Numbers, and a $1 subscription.

...

[FANBOY. PROGRAM. SHUTTING. DOWN.]

U-um ... whaa? *shakes head*

So, Bugsnatch! What the fuck is this game even?

Bugsnatch. You, Sir, just made my day

 

[user1337]

 

[Apollo Helios]

xacto damn man, that "my face is tired" meme is nightmare fuel, it still irks me how BW though that was okay... after that game even games with bad lip sync but actual human like faces and reactions do not bother me at all

 

[xacto]

xacto damn man, that "my face is tired" meme is nightmare fuel, it still irks me how BW though that was okay... after that game even games with bad lip sync but actual human like faces and reactions do not bother me at all

Now, maybe this is entirely my opinion, but hell... ME Andromeda looks somehow better than Craig's Homeworld.

 

[TheGejsza]

People focus on reflections to easily demonstrate it, but it's light, shadows and sound as well, it is important. I do agree that reflections are not "mind blowing" but try to focus more on the shadows and how light bounces off of objects in the Spider-man comparisons.

Light bounces are the most important thing with RT for me. Control and Metro shows how big impact on indoor enviroments have "real-like" light-rays. They are giving depth to every single smallest object. It is super fun when you see it you don't think it looks somehow great but when you turn them off everything looks super-fat but you just did not notice it earlier. But I don't think every game needs them...

 

[BlueXImpulse]

I did, the 60FPS looks the same as the PS4 version, just runs faster. And there are two reasoning for this - firstly, the original SM already looks fantastic, there's hardly anything that could've been done better, other than truly remastering the game from the ground up for new hardware like CoD4 or Demon Souls, remodeling not just Peter's face but every single model and every texture in the game. And secondly, Miles Morales doesn't look that much better than the PS4 title to begin with, it's basically the same game except in native 4K instead of 1440p + lot of particles + RT reflections. From a PC guy's perspective the difference is basically RTX on vs RTX off, nothing more.

Yeah. Not like Miles Morales doesn't have the best hair rendering seen in gaming to date. It looks much better than the PS4 version of Spiderman but why stop there, it looks better than Cyberpunk 2077. Isn't that the game that PC guys think is supposed to set the graphical benchmark?

 

[kyliethicc]

I did, the 60FPS looks the same as the PS4 version, just runs faster. And there are two reasoning for this - firstly, the original SM already looks fantastic, there's hardly anything that could've been done better, other than truly remastering the game from the ground up for new hardware like CoD4 or Demon Souls, remodeling not just Peter's face but every single model and every texture in the game. And secondly, Miles Morales doesn't look that much better than the PS4 title to begin with, it's basically the same game except in native 4K instead of 1440p + lot of particles + RT reflections. From a PC guy's perspective the difference is basically RTX on vs RTX off, nothing more.

CoD4 Remaster is just a basic upres remaster. I like it, played it, but don't compare it to Demon's Souls.

That's one hell of a lazy-ass remaster, if you can even call it like that - other than slight color tone change there's virtually zero difference between the two, I guess all the fuss with new face was exactly to distract people from the lack of any changes/improvements in the remaster. But hey, Sony did many "remasters" in the early PS4 days where the only difference between PS3 versions was just higher resolution and/or framerate, nothing else, and they even charged 40$ for it, but I thought those times were over, guess I was wrong. I still don't see a single reason why there won't be a free native 4K 60FPS patch for the PS5, that's all what most people really need/want.

You said there's virtually zero difference in Spider-Man remastered. Look again.

 

[Vae_Victis]

Do we have footage, or images of an XsX raytraced game? I’m not saying it will no be able to do RT, probably a bit better than PS5, but can’t remember seeing something.

Make of it what you want.

 

[zaitsu]

Hey don't pull them away from their happy place!

But you are right, instead of bitching about PS5's capabilities, they should ask to have a look at MS' games. Sony may not have the "most powerful console", but at least it's consistently showing gameplay captured from the actual PS5, and not PCs emulating the "experience".

So it uses SBR. ( sarcasm based reflections)

 

[xacto]

Make of it what you want.

In memoriam of Bo_Hazem

 

[Apollo Helios]

Now, maybe this is entirely my opinion, but hell... ME Andromeda looks somehow better than Craig's Homeworld.

Apart from the demon faces, I wholeheartedly agree mate. On faces I don't know which is worse, but they both suck.

 

[sircaw]

Make of it what you want.

Ray tracing or not, my buildings would never look anything like those lol.

We are talking a shack with a torch on top of it with some bent fence and 2 of those tampon looking sheep in it.

Ray tracing ain't gonna help my stuff to look nice.

 

[FunkMiller]

Make of it what you want.

Something definitely cube shaped.

 

[Entroyp]

Make of it what you want.

I totally forgot about MC. Is the RT patch coming out day 1 on XsX?

 

[Garani]

I hate you. And I hate Sony because my pre-order got cancelled. I hate hate hate you all!

 

[smallpotatosan]

Am I the only one who really does not give a crap about RT? I mean those reflections are cool but when you will be playing the game you will barely notice them and on top of that RT is expensive performance-wise as fuck. Maybe at night they will make bigger overall impact on visual clarity.

If PS5/XSX does not have some super-good RT solutions that will be less GPU-intensive I don't think the performance hit is worth for the visual gain. I mean RT is the next step for fotorealism but as for now I am not sure if next-gen consoles are able to pull them off. There is a reason why 4k RT Minecraft runs on 3080 at 30 FPS


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as an RTX20xx card owner, i can share with you my thoughts on RT. Can I play without RT? absolutely, the graphics still look awesome because devs are employing all the technics to trick our minds. but given both running at an acceptable framerate, I would always choose RT even if it means 40% framerate difference. With RT, it is simply more immersive. Sony is big on immersion in their nextgen narrative. I expect we see a lot RT in Sony titles.

 

[Faithless83]

Make of it what you want.

Say what you will, but it has is less pop in than Halo Infinite.

 

[Apollo Helios]

I know Craig is basically a Meme right now but this guy too has really bad face with bad animations and textures,

and everyone misses this guy and make fun of only Craig, when in fact this dude deserves some ridicule as well.
Just look at great nothingness in his nostrils, just black textures of emptiness, his mouth is also the same, look beyond the weird and badly designed teeth that do not close properly, instead make collisions mistakes on each other, and you will again see black texture of nothingness. And no it has nothing to do with dramatic lighting or lack thereof, there is plenty of light coming from the right from his top and front to light his face and show details, so if textures on his face are missing, they are truly missing.

 

[ZywyPL]

I know Craig is basically a Meme right now but this guy too has really bad face with bad animations and textures,

And it's all irrelevant compared to his plastic teeth... Holy shit they do stand out, in the bad way of course.

 

[ksdixon]

There's no chance of TLOU Factions as a PS5 launch title, is there? Is there any more Sony trailer shows/state of play's, or blog post blowouts beteen now and release?

I'm taking them letting #TLOUday pass without properly mentioning it, that it's gonna be like next summer as part of a TLOU2 PS5 Remaster

 

[Insane Metal]

I just realised that the "grass" is actually made of flat cables! Haha how cute!

 

[BlueXImpulse]

I know Craig is basically a Meme right now but this guy too has really bad face with bad animations and textures,

and everyone misses this guy and make fun of only Craig, when in fact this dude deserves some ridicule as well.
Just look at great nothingness in his nostrils, just black textures of emptiness, his mouth is also the same, look beyond the weird and badly designed teeth that do not close properly, instead make collisions mistakes on each other, and you will again see black texture of nothingness. And no it has nothing to do with dramatic lighting or lack thereof, there is plenty of light coming from the right from his top and front to light his face and show details, so if textures on his face are missing, they are truly missing.

Let's not focus on this though. Let's instead focus on the fact that Spiderman remastered missed some leaves in the BVH! That is the true crime, never mind that it looks Miles better than Halo Infinite. We need to focus on the smallest details.

/s

I wish these rabid fans who continue to hound anybody who dares to praise PS5 would focus on what's going on in their own house.

 

[Faithless83]

There's no chance of TLOU Factions as a PS5 launch title, is there? Is there any more Sony trailer shows/state of play's, or blog post blowouts beteen now and release?

I'm taking them letting #TLOUday pass without properly mentioning it, that it's gonna be like next summer as part of a TLOU2 PS5 Remaster

They announced a board game on that day right?

 

[xacto]

I know Craig is basically a Meme right now but this guy too has really bad face with bad animations and textures,

and everyone misses this guy and make fun of only Craig, when in fact this dude deserves some ridicule as well.
Just look at great nothingness in his nostrils, just black textures of emptiness, his mouth is also the same, look beyond the weird and badly designed teeth that do not close properly, instead make collisions mistakes on each other, and you will again see black texture of nothingness. And no it has nothing to do with dramatic lighting or lack thereof, there is plenty of light coming from the right from his top and front to light his face and show details, so if textures on his face are missing, they are truly missing.

Orcs in World of Warcraft look better than Craig.

 

[xacto]

I hate you. And I hate Sony because my pre-order got cancelled. I hate hate hate you all!

You will just walk into the brick-and-mortar trusty store, and you will pick up your box. Simple as that. I can already picture it. While people with pre-orders will (maybe) get their boxes a week after the launch

 

[Nickolaidas]

Guys, please. Pics inside a spoiler tag if you wish to post like, ten of them.

 

[martino]

sometime i wonder if this is not made of faith failling at attempt to created another zarnakan

Yeah. Not like Miles Morales doesn't have the best hair rendering seen in gaming to date. It looks much better than the PS4 version of Spiderman but why stop there, it looks better than Cyberpunk 2077. Isn't that the game that PC guys think is supposed to set the graphical benchmark?

let's play that cherry picking game
in term of distance this one is a more honest comparison too

silly isn't it ?

 

[duhmetree]

Do Halo fans like the cartoony vibe they were giving off on Infinite? IMO it seemed over the top.

What would a Bethesda inspired Halo look like? I would be extremely interested if Halo went the Destiny route. RPG elements, strikes and raids ( end-game PvE )

Would a Halo Battle Royale work? IMO TDM is slowing down. It's not enticing the new/younger generations.

 

[PSX]

Orcs in World of Warcraft look better than Craig.

2020 model it has some character feel to it at some point, unlike meh with Halo design

 

[MrS]

What a beautiful post. Kena looks sublime. PS5 owners are going to enjoy an embarrassment of riches in terms of gorgeous games. I for one can't wait. 50 days, friends!

 

[3liteDragon]

 

[BlueXImpulse]

sometime i wonder if this is not made of faith failling at attempt to created another zarnakan

let's play that cherry picking game
in term of distance this one is a more honest comparison too

Only one issue. The one on the left still has superior IQ but since you have a better shot, let's compare the best shot you have to the best shot I have. Better hair rendering, better IQ, better skin rendering, the clothes look more realistic too.

 

[IbelieveInGenerations]

I did, the 60FPS looks the same as the PS4 version, just runs faster. And there are two reasoning for this - firstly, the original SM already looks fantastic, there's hardly anything that could've been done better, other than truly remastering the game from the ground up for new hardware like CoD4 or Demon Souls, remodeling not just Peter's face but every single model and every texture in the game. And secondly, Miles Morales doesn't look that much better than the PS4 title to begin with, it's basically the same game except in native 4K instead of 1440p + lot of particles + RT reflections. From a PC guy's perspective the difference is basically RTX on vs RTX off, nothing more.





Check the above post.

I disagree.

The superiority of MM is Very obvious even for a Cross gen title.

Look at the KingTrashGaming video my nigga'

 

[ZywyPL]

Yeah. Not like Miles Morales doesn't have the best hair rendering seen in gaming to date. It looks much better than the PS4 version of Spiderman but why stop there, it looks better than Cyberpunk 2077. Isn't that the game that PC guys think is supposed to set the graphical benchmark?

Gameplay vs cut-scene lol, you don't even know the difference and you want to discuss about graphics? xD

CoD4 Remaster is just a basic upres remaster. I like it, played it, but don't compare it to Demon's Souls.

If you don't see any difference other than resolution between CoD4 and its remaster, but at the same time you think SM remaster is oh so difficult then thePS4 version, then I really speechless...

 

[devilNprada]

I know Craig is basically a Meme right now but this guy too has really bad face with bad animations and textures,

and everyone misses this guy and make fun of only Craig, when in fact this dude deserves some ridicule as well.
Just look at great nothingness in his nostrils, just black textures of emptiness, his mouth is also the same, look beyond the weird and badly designed teeth that do not close properly, instead make collisions mistakes on each other, and you will again see black texture of nothingness. And no it has nothing to do with dramatic lighting or lack thereof, there is plenty of light coming from the right from his top and front to light his face and show details, so if textures on his face are missing, they are truly missing.

this guy looks pretty cool to me...

 

[BlueXImpulse]

Gameplay vs cut-scene lol, you don't even know the difference and you want to discuss about graphics? xD

Miles Morales looks better in cutscenes and gameplay.

 

[JTCx]

I know Craig is basically a Meme right now but this guy too has really bad face with bad animations and textures,

and everyone misses this guy and make fun of only Craig, when in fact this dude deserves some ridicule as well.
Just look at great nothingness in his nostrils, just black textures of emptiness, his mouth is also the same, look beyond the weird and badly designed teeth that do not close properly, instead make collisions mistakes on each other, and you will again see black texture of nothingness. And no it has nothing to do with dramatic lighting or lack thereof, there is plenty of light coming from the right from his top and front to light his face and show details, so if textures on his face are missing, they are truly missing.

I always bring up craig's uncle whenever somebody tries to make excuses for halo infinite 'open world' but never get a clear cut answer just constant dodging lmfao

 

[MastaKiiLA]

 

[Vae_Victis]

I know Craig is basically a Meme right now but this guy too has really bad face with bad animations and textures,

and everyone misses this guy and make fun of only Craig, when in fact this dude deserves some ridicule as well.
Just look at great nothingness in his nostrils, just black textures of emptiness, his mouth is also the same, look beyond the weird and badly designed teeth that do not close properly, instead make collisions mistakes on each other, and you will again see black texture of nothingness. And no it has nothing to do with dramatic lighting or lack thereof, there is plenty of light coming from the right from his top and front to light his face and show details, so if textures on his face are missing, they are truly missing.

It feels a bit like one of those gamelike-but-not-from-an-actual-game 3D characters that GPU ads used back in the mid 2000s. It's "detailed" in and of itself, but in some parts the technology itself feels really old.

The teeth in particular are fucking atrocious. They are literally a single solid color with the specular value turned to max. No texture, no normal map, not even a basic specular map to break the reflection and give a semblance of wear and irregularity. They look like a billiard ball with wax on. It's the way reflective surfaces were handled in low budget CGI from the 90s.

 

[ZywyPL]

Miles Morales looks better in cutscenes and gameplay.

 

[Dibils2k]

do we know if the RT is on the 60fps mode? might have to play 30fps mode otherwise

 

[IbelieveInGenerations]

But the 60fps vídeo looks bad. It should be as impresso as these pics but with less res.

 

[BlueXImpulse]

Agree to disagree.

 

[Codexer]

 

[saintjules]

 

[MrS]

Man this is truly some April 1st shit. I can't actually believe they showed this to highlight the power of Series X. It's like a bad joke. I can't believe it's real some times. I really hope they're able to right the ship and fix this game. Our green cousins deserve more than this.

 

[HAL-01]

i hope they fixed the incorrectly aligned contact point reflections, the only thing that's really peeving me off in these screens

 

[Neo Blaster]

Well i guess if your company is working on a 7.5 billion dollar acquisition that your competitor may also be interested in, it might not be a bad idea to pretend like you aren't interested in the target yourselves