kyliethicc
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Somewhat, the clear bump to 60 FPS is great. More NPCs and cars on the roads, everything looks sharper higher res to me.
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xacto
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I think it's just the "usual" usual meltdown AKA "a new day, another meltdown."
MrS
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£175 with an extra malfunctioning controller. No idea what the individual breakdown was.
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Apollo Helios
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This.Those trees reflected on the cars look way better than these trees... and these aren't even reflections.
Even reflections of Spiderman REMASTER is better than those trees on a NEW game, and some people's favorite-choice-of-plastic fanaticism is preventing them to call it for what it is!
Entroyp
Member
Oooh puddlegate is back... however looks like it’s raytracegate this time. I regret reading the comments on that linneman tweet.. some people just need to quit gaming, they take it too seriously.
Loxus
Member
I don't know why, but for some reason Peter Parker in the Original looks like Harry Osborn (James Franco) from Spiderman 3.Seeing the remaster made me even more happy that I preordered the ultimate edition. Look at this. I care about them changing the model as much as I care that they reboot movies every few years and change the cast.
LucidFlux
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If you look closely at what's being reflected you'll see that the only area that seems light on leaves is actually an area of trees that is off the screen. I imagine it matches up with the actual scene.
As for your question on why only certain things may be reflected or why it's being selective. To keep it simple, every object has a list of properties, "is this object flagged to be raytraced" for example. All vegetation might be grouped and have a general high level preset applied so that all of these objects are eligible to be reflected. The reflective surfaces themselves will also have properties that determine the quality of the reflection (resolution, diffuse, etc) and which objects they reflect. So yes, developers have a very high level of control when it comes to what objects get reflected off which surfaces.
As John from DF pointed out the environment here is most likely fully ray traced in the window reflection while the Spider-man model is only using SSR likely to save on performance.
Apollo Helios
Member
That is just cinematic version, you obviously haven't looked at/seen the gameplay portion in the gameplay video or the screen caps they shared and you willfully ignore, so... ??
Garani
Member
Yeah. At the end of the day, I don't give a shit if it is RT or something else. Does it look good? Is the game playable? Am I enjoying playing it? So who cares. There are indie games that use 8bit graphic and are selling strong.
Oh, wait, may be the fact that to play such a beauty you gotta have a PS5?
Entroyp
Member
Do we have footage, or images of an XsX raytraced game? I’m not saying it will no be able to do RT, probably a bit better than PS5, but can’t remember seeing something.
xacto
Member
You should have lost interest when he said "zero difference" - that's how you spot the pained troll.
Garani
Member
Nope. Zip. Nada. Everything has been captured from a PC emulating the XSX.
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Nickolaidas
Member
Fuck Sony. Fuck MS. Fuck Nintendo.
You will always be a Power Ranger nerd in my heart.
IT'S MORPHING TIIIIIIIME!!
Apollo Helios
Member
I always felt that the face on Peter in the original game looked A LOT like Uncle Ben from Avi Arad's Spider-Man movies but younger, the hair and eyes plus a square-ish face is spot on for this guySeeing the remaster made me even more happy that I preordered the ultimate edition. Look at this. I care about them changing the model as much as I care that they reboot movies every few years and change the cast.
just look at Uncle Ben and don't tell me they didn't purposefully made Peter resemble him in 2018 game...
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Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
kyliethicc
Member
you're joking right?
BlueXImpulse
Banned
No which is why they are so harsh on anything RT related on PS5. I'm assuming they think XSX will have DLSS and ray tracing.
travisktl
Member
Exactly. In motion it looks great, and you won't be nitpicking reflections like with a photo. GT games always look significantly better by launch compared to the reveal trailers as well.
Entroyp
Member
Well, it’s two months till launch, shouldn’t xbox fans be asking to see games running on the console instead of old shit with uprezed graphics?
xacto
Member
If it's a joke, it's a bad one. I think at this point he's just taking the piss, cause what little else remains for people like that?
IntentionalPun
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The lighting looks quite a bit better in the PS5 perf mode for Spiderman to me. I like the presentation overall because of that even if it's somewhat subtle.
Now bring on 5 more pages of talking about what xbox fans are saying. Should rename the thread "Xbox Fans Comments Discussion"
Now bring on 5 more pages of talking about what xbox fans are saying. Should rename the thread "Xbox Fans Comments Discussion"
Entroyp
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I remember someone from Tim’s virgin army saying something about Tensor cores in the XsX
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IntentionalPun
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OMG DO YOU REMEMBER THAT?I remember someone from Tim’s virgin army saying something about Tensir cores un the XsX
Super interesting stuff, please tell more!
Apollo Helios
Member
dude are you OK? What's gotten into you? You are supposed to be hardcore xbox fan what happened?
xacto
Member
Exactly this! I mean, everyone loses their collective minds over BC games "it's immense! IT'S HUGE!!!" Wait a second, are they gushing about last-gen games running at 60 FPS, on a next generation console?!
That's so sad.
geordiemp
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Unless Sony is using some fine trickery for ray tracing.....who knows,.......
The plot thickens in the great war of our time.
IntentionalPun
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I barely touched Xbox last generation.. and play on PS4 all the time. And I pre-ordered PS5 the second I could, and am still undecided on XSX, at least not gonna get it at launch.
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Entroyp
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TheGejsza
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Am I the only one who really does not give a crap about RT? I mean those reflections are cool but when you will be playing the game you will barely notice them and on top of that RT is expensive performance-wise as fuck. Maybe at night they will make bigger overall impact on visual clarity.
If PS5/XSX does not have some super-good RT solutions that will be less GPU-intensive I don't think the performance hit is worth for the visual gain. I mean RT is the next step for fotorealism but as for now I am not sure if next-gen consoles are able to pull them off. There is a reason why 4k RT Minecraft runs on 3080 at 30 FPS
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If PS5/XSX does not have some super-good RT solutions that will be less GPU-intensive I don't think the performance hit is worth for the visual gain. I mean RT is the next step for fotorealism but as for now I am not sure if next-gen consoles are able to pull them off. There is a reason why 4k RT Minecraft runs on 3080 at 30 FPS
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sircaw
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we were doing so well then you ruined it.
Apollo Helios
Member
in that case can you please change that Phil-woman mesh avatar it is weirding me out every time I see it lol why put that in the first place if not for the love of xbox?
IntentionalPun
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No.. I just do not understand why you guys discuss random bullshit absolute morons say on twitter here so much..Oh, was it you then?
Why the fuck do you even read these people's comments? They are idiots... I wish I could ignore their existence but it's the main topic of this damn thread.
xacto
Member
I agree. Let's start over. But if you're telling me about how you were forced to watch Twilight, we're back to square one. Sounds fair to you?
kyliethicc
Member
And its a 4K60Hz sim racer. I'm not gonna stare at a reflection and nit pick, I'm gonna look at the cars, the track, and win the race lol.
I'm just excited for the DualSense haptics & triggers, sounds perfect for GT7.
IntentionalPun
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Philis can not be held responsible for how much of an assbag Phil is, she is only his twin sister.. and she is a doll.
Avy is just a joke lol.. I don't hate Xbox or MS or anything and want them to do well, but they sucked pretty bad last gen and I PC game so mostly use stuff like Gamepass there.
Entroyp
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Absolutely, I’m not sure why people give them any attention, but for some reason they keep popping up all the time.
Lysandros
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Full RT of Spiderman on XSX is sarcasm based, it's pretty difficult to see.
Garani
Member
Hey don't pull them away from their happy place!
But you are right, instead of bitching about PS5's capabilities, they should ask to have a look at MS' games. Sony may not have the "most powerful console", but at least it's consistently showing gameplay captured from the actual PS5, and not PCs emulating the "experience".
Nickolaidas
Member
...
.........
Now.
Seriously.
If Demon's Souls environments looked like this.
Like this shitty forest in Halo Infinite.
Can you fathom the shitstorm the PS5 would get from those people? The ridicule and the mocking? Those same people who have the gull, the utter shamelessness of calling Demon's Souls on the PS5 a PS3 port?
Yet, somehow ... in Halo Infinite ... hardly a problem! It looked FINE.
... until MS did the right thing and pushed the release back. Then suddenly, all Xbox hardcore fanboys would claim it was the right call and the game needed work.
It's this blatant hypocrisy which rubs me the wrong way.
Yes, you people. You hypocrites who call Demon's Souls hardly impressive and a PS3 port, you would SHIT YOUR PANTS and LOSE YOUR SHIT if Halo Infinite looked like Demon's Souls, if it had those textures, those weather effects, that lighting. You would CRY FROM THE ROOFTOPS and flood every corner on twitter shouting how MS has already won, and how the PS5 was doomed from the start.
That's how much you need a win. That's how utterly blind you have become.
That's why you cling to numbers.
Because that's all you have. Numbers, and a $1 subscription.
...
[FANBOY. PROGRAM. SHUTTING. DOWN.]
U-um ... whaa? *shakes head*
So, Bugsnatch! What the fuck is this game even?
travisktl
Member
Same. I love GT's replays, but I'm not going to be analyzing the RT. I'm really excited for the dualsense features and 3d audio.
sircaw
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Faithless83
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People focus on reflections to easily demonstrate it, but it's light, shadows and sound as well, it is important. I do agree that reflections are not "mind blowing" but try to focus more on the shadows and how light bounces off of objects in the Spider-man comparisons.
ethomaz
Banned
Sony is showing gameplay games running on PS5 like usual.
smallpotatosan
Member
BVH structure does not come free.
John is a good dude. he isn't a sony fan per se. but he is right on point with a lot of things including negative things against Sony. I'm cool with the bro.
travisktl
Member
I'm more excited about the audio, global illumination, and shadows side of RT. The actual reflections are cool, but the other stuff is way more impressive and really adds to the atmosphere, IMO.
kyliethicc
Member
I just want a game with dynamic lighting. Like I play Rainbow 6 Siege, I would love a mode at night where every light source can be destroyed and then in darkness, night vision, flashlights, lasers all come into play.
I have no idea if RT is needed for that idea, maybe not. But currently, that game and many others seem to have pre-baked lighting that can't change. Static.
I just hope devs keep trying to increase the interactivity of the worlds, removing static aspects when possible. Thats whats so cool about video games to begin with, interaction.
xacto
Member
I think forum users post that kind of stuff here because of two reasons; to make fun of them, or because they believe in them. Everyone is bored at this point, Sony people because there's not much they can do while waiting for the Holy-Sunday-When-Japanese-YouTubers-Showed-Us-The-Goodies, and Xbox side... well, you know that one already.
But I agree it's getting tiresome at some point.
Garani
Member
If (and it's a big IF) the ending of the trailer is of any indication, I'd say they it may be a horror/thriller game.
sircaw
Banned
those trees are fucking awful, i still can not believe they released a game looking like that, Craig, the pop in, the best part is when the player goes up the massive lift, they make it as if he is looking around, taking a 360 degree look around at the vistas, like trying to say how beautiful this is lol. What the fuck were they thinking.
That entire studio should be fired, replaced.
Fucking unbelievable what they tried to pull.
but a hair of on place or a reflection not in line in a ps5 game, xbox fan boys go crazy lol
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