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[xacto]

Hey, remember this everybody?

Spoiler: screenshot in case the Tweet is deleted

What do you think we will get from him today?

A) Silence
B) Weak excuses
C) Some fake sideways blurry screenshot of a picture with "All PS1, PS2 and PS3 games are playable on PS Now from September 30!" written on it
D) Actual backwards compatibility (in spite of all logic, probability and possibly physics itself, in regards to the PS5 reading CDs)

Please, remind me... who is this guy?

 

[Three Jackdaws]

I see people people discussing that Japanese Youtubers or whatever will get their hands on the PS5 over the next week or so and that they'll be the only ones.

I really don't think this is the case, I think there are multiple influencers/tech enthusiasts who have already or will get their hands on the PS5 over the next week or so, for a review of the console and some of it's features like the SSD and Dualsense. It would make no sense for Sony to allow this for one demographic/region only.

I also think we'll be getting a hardware teardown at the end of next month or the start of November, basically after Zen 3 and RDNA 2 are fully revealed.

 

[ethomaz]

Ratchet & Clank won't have a native 4k30 mode. Only dynamic 4k30 and a performance mode that targets 60fps

Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart Will Run at Dynamic 4K Resolution, Targets 60 FPS For Performance Mode

Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart will run at a dynamic 4K resolution with HDR on the PS5. It also targets 60 FPS in performance mode.

twistedvoxel.com

That's .... quite unexpected. I really expected a 4k30 and dynamic 1440p-4k 60 (e.g. without RT) mode. At least for a title so close to the launch.

RT is the more probably reason.

 

[WhispersintheWind]

~That rat smelling xacto has been trying his luck too, he is down to his last couple of lives. dirty fleabag needs to be spade.
Either will do if i am honest, the one from the surgery or the one from my tool-shed, i am not fussy when it comes to the spade option on these overgrown rodents.

And yes lol, WELCOME BACK. somethings never change.

I want to be nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize. So I’m wondering can I bring peace to the cat people led by xacto and the Fish People led by sircaw ?

 

[Faithless83]

RT is the more probably reason.

The world transitions. It will have to recalculate everything on each jump, besides loading the assets.

 

[3liteDragon]

 

[Faithless83]

I want to be nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize. So I’m wondering can I bring peace to the cat people led by xacto and the Fish People led by sircaw ?

I wanna see you pull one involving the white shark. That would be the day.

 

[Sinthor]

The fact that "someone" recommended you the Twilight series and you LAPPED IT UP LIKE IT WAS SHAKESPEARE!!! right? that doesn't exonerate you AT ALL, my aquatic friend.

Vampyr isn't bad at all, if you get used to its camera controls, you kind of have to fight the directional sticks, no matter what settings you use for them. But all in all, not a bad game.

Hey-hey-HEY! Don't rip on 'Twighlight' man! That shit is the bomb!

 

[Deleted member 775630]

People were laughing with Smart Delivery, but this is actually an important feature that Sony for some weird reason doesn't properly support.

 

[Codexer]

 

[BlueXImpulse]

How is this not CGI?

 

[xacto]

I want to be nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize. So I’m wondering can I bring peace to the cat people led by xacto and the Fish People led by sircaw ?

You can also bring a can of tuna fish... oh no... did I touch a nerve there, sircaw ?

 

[Codexer]

 

[Mod of War]

If anyone decides to create topics on his tweets, they will be immediately closed.

 

[Lysandros]

Details on I/O Complex once more... *time stamped*

I replied to the poster talking about 'XSX' having I/O coprocessors friend. I know PS5's I/O complex by heart, i watched Road to PS5 five times at least. Thanks for sharing.

 

[BlueXImpulse]

Spiderman Remastered Detailed | PS5

https://blog.playstation.com/2020/09/30/marvels-spider-man-remastered-detailed/

www.neogaf.com

 

[saintjules]

Damn, that Spider-Man Remastered is FRESH.

 

[Moridianae]

So they changed him to an older Tom Holland-esque look?

Okay, cool. I never played the original so this looks well worth the price with Miles Ultimate Edition.

 

[Riky]

Ratchet & Clank won't have a native 4k30 mode. Only dynamic 4k30 and a performance mode that targets 60fps

Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart Will Run at Dynamic 4K Resolution, Targets 60 FPS For Performance Mode

Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart will run at a dynamic 4K resolution with HDR on the PS5. It also targets 60 FPS in performance mode.

twistedvoxel.com

That's .... quite unexpected. I really expected a 4k30 and dynamic 1440p-4k 60 (e.g. without RT) mode. At least for a title so close to the launch.

Memory Bandwidth limitations with all the effects? I thought 4k 30fps would be the bare minimum to be honest.

 

[Faithless83]

People were laughing with Smart Delivery, but this is actually an important feature that Sony for some weird reason doesn't properly support.

Games using different SKUs (crossgen) will need extra work, different game ID. It needs to be converted. We had crossplay games before and it wasn't a problem (PS3/PS4/PS Vita). Legacy ones will do just fine.

The answers are coming. Please don't go the "it doesn't support" just yet.

 

[xacto]

"In addition, on the PS5 console we have the Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales Ultimate Edition which includes a voucher code* to download Marvel’s Spider-Man Remastered. It retails for $69.99/€79.99 MSRP" - PlayStation Blog

So if we buy this version, we actually get two games for the price above? That's not that bad, right?

 

[Codexer]

Gameplay

 

[geordiemp]

If anyone decides to create topics on his tweets, they will be immediately closed.

But I like odium, my favouirite developer of erm...

 

[Three Jackdaws]

facial animations as well as the details/fidelity of the character models actually look impressive.

 

[avenovah]

 

[Faithless83]

"In addition, on the PS5 console we have the Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales Ultimate Edition which includes a voucher code* to download Marvel’s Spider-Man Remastered. It retails for $69.99/€79.99 MSRP" - PlayStation Blog

So if we buy this version, we actually get two games for the price above? That's not that bad, right?

It is because it's not free. give me free stuff!
(I'll play the PS4 version though. I'm a cheap fuck)

 

[Andodalf]

Memory Bandwidth limitations with all the effects? I thought 4k 30fps would be the bare minimum to be honest.

With the level of Alpha and particle effects the game shows at times + a seemingly aggressive use of RT, mem bandwidth could be stressed for sure. Bandwidth is the biggest bummer for both consoles.

The self shadowing of the T-shirt onto his neck, and the self shadows from his throat/adams apple onto his skin look really nice. Obviously just a cutscene, but cool all the same.

 

[Deleted member 775630]

Games using different SKUs (crossgen) will need extra work, different game ID. It needs to be converted. We had crossplay games before and it wasn't a problem (PS3/PS4/PS Vita). Legacy ones will do just fine.

The answers are coming. Please don't go the "it doesn't support" just yet.

It doesn't need extra work on the Xbox platform. So "extra" work means Sony never added this to their cloud storage and game API's, right?

 

[Codexer]

Looks like Tom Holland

 

[geordiemp]

Memory Bandwidth limitations with all the effects? I thought 4k 30fps would be the bare minimum to be honest.

Maybe they should cut out the ray tracing / good lighting and down grade the textures and crazy particles so we can get a 4k60 to tick the fanboy box ?

/s

 

[xacto]

It is because it's not free. give me free stuff!
(I'll play the PS4 version though. I'm a cheap fuck)

Since I didn't play the first Spider Man, I am so going to now, plus MM. Looking at the new gameplay posted above, I realized how much I want a next-gen Batman game.

 

[Andodalf]

It doesn't need extra work on the Xbox platform. So "extra" work means Sony never added this to their cloud storage and game API's, right?

Could be that PS5 is mandating changes to how saves are stored to A: optimize speed or B: reduce the number of writes on the ssd to extend it's life, and the new format just isn't compatible.

 

[Insane Metal]

Those reflections don't looks very good.........

 

[FunkMiller]

Gameplay

Well, yes. That certainly is Spider-man with a few more bells and whistles...

I'm sure some will enjoy the increase in frame rate, but I already played this to death, so won't be buying it a second time.

 

[VargasPaPuM]

It's still an unreleased game?

So he's still wrong?

glad no released looks garbage

 

[Three Jackdaws]

Maybe they should cut out the ray tracing / good lighting and down grade the textures and crazy particles so we can get a 4k60 to tick the fanboy box ?

/s

Was watching DF's benchmark analysis of the RTX 3080, holy shit, high and ultra high RT settings really push the GPU to around 30-40 FPS at times and you know what's even more mad is that I could hardly tell the difference a lot of the time. In some instances RT seem's like a huge cost just for some fancy reflections and shadows, call me crazy.

 

[Andodalf]

Those reflections don't looks very good.........

I wonder what the trees? they're reflecting look like? If they're low detail like trees can be sometimes in racing games, a reflection is necessarily going to be super low detail

 

[Mr Moose]

Well shit... I wasn't going to get the £69 version of S-M MM, until today. Those bastards.

 

[Faithless83]

It doesn't need extra work on the Xbox platform. So "extra" work means Sony never added this to their cloud storage and game API's, right?

They did it in the past with crossplay. The concern is the non PS Plus users using manual storage upgrade. They'll come up with something for sure.

 

[zubairali2]

good lord im not a fan of the new face haha, however the detail looks great!

 

[TheGejsza]

All I wanted is faster swings without stopping momentum for Spider Man Remake ...

 

[Three Jackdaws]

 

[xacto]

Well shit... I wasn't going to get the £69 version of S-M MM, until today. Those bastards.

You and me both, mate... and guess what, I will have no regrets

 

[sandkiller]

Why does Peter's face look different?

 

[Three Jackdaws]

Gameplay

The reflections on those windows actually look really good considering the gameplay is at 60 FPS.

*says that immediately after complaining about how RT can be overrated at times.

 

[dimaveshkin]

The reflections on those windows actually look really good considering the gameplay is at 60 FPS.

*says that immediately after complaining about how RT can be overrated at times.

Where did you find RT in 60fps mode?

 

[MasterCornholio]

Someone get Jonny a Series S

OMG it's homers brother.

Or is it from a cheap knockoff of the simpsons called the Craigsons?

 

[PSX]

 

[LiquidRex]

Someone is not impressed.

 

[CrysisFreak]

It doesn't need extra work on the Xbox platform. So "extra" work means Sony never added this to their cloud storage and game API's, right?

Sony literally already has cross-save since years.
It's probably easier to implement on Xbox that's why it's more common that devs do it there.