Killer Sakoman
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For daily rank, it makes sense.Ps5s sold out before xbox even went up, that's why xbox is trending higher daiky/weekly. XSX is #1 in the UK if you just click on best sellers. This year its 45, while ps5 is 9.
For daily rank, it makes sense.Ps5s sold out before xbox even went up, that's why xbox is trending higher daiky/weekly. XSX is #1 in the UK if you just click on best sellers. This year its 45, while ps5 is 9.
it was actually said that you do get enhancements, most to 1440p
You get the uprezzed versions of the base game, you don't get the graphical enhancements of the One X version of the game.
you get other enhancements though like better texture filtering etc. it’s not just better res and FPS. There is more to it.
Here comes my train of thought about the whole Spider Man Remake shitstorm!
There are a few things added up that makes such a negative impact:
1. Sony said multiple times how BC is important for them and stated that they will update the PS4 games for PS5 increasing their performance.
2. Their whole BC explanation is really poor - they said about Ps4/PS4 Pro mode/Legacy etc. but without much of a details - can we expect 60fps/4k? Can we expect combined performance/resolution modes from PS4 Pro? They also said really important statement - at the minimum the game from PS4 will work the same on PS5 but any additional upgrades is up to developers. So any kind of upgrades of PS4 games for PS5 is dependend on a good will of a dev.
3. Microsoft comes with it's Smart Delivery - and in fact they showed Gears of War 5 and how it is upgraded for Series X where it goes above PC max settings. The diffrences are visible but not something really mindblowing. I would not call it remaster (but still it is some kind of remastering of the X1 version) -
4. In the meantime MS Smart Delivery info caused a lot of dev to ride the "good pr of MS" and annaunced upgrades for PS5 - like Cyberpunk and Assassins Creed Valhalla and some more titles I can't remember right now.
5. long-ass period of now info from sony and many of players alread took for granted that BC upgrade is something that we will get from Sony because If MS gives them why would Sony not if they were the "good guys" at current gen.
6. Info about Spider-Man Remaster not avaible for free for PS4 version owners drops. And here comes the problem - they did not show us how big changes are. This will backfire either way - some expect it to be similiar to Gears of War 5 and if MS does not want additional pay why would Sony want? Other people claims it is full remaster and expects full-power PS5 graphic. If Sony does not deliver it there will be in even more dire situation than now. Now back to point 2. - Sony statamets simplified - Good devs will upgrade games, bad devs will not. And everyone considering Sony the "good guys" expects them to somehow (similiar to how MS upgraded GOW) upgrade the PS5 version of PS4 game and charging additional fees for remaster is contradictory to what sony made us to believe - that they are a good guys that will do all they can to upgrade PS4 games on PS5.
IMO it all comes to the lack of fucking informations from Sony. How BC works? How the remaster will look like? On top of that MS pr moves a few weeks back gave players a time to get used to how upgrades will work and some kind of "vision" about how next gen will look and what then can expect - and that they can expect considerable upgrades of the
I think it all comes from Microsoft. If Sony would stated it earlier this would have way weaker (negative) impact. And Microsoft indeed are giving upgrades but they are not calling them Remasters. It is confirmed that Gears of War 5 will have higher settingh than those avaible on PC.
Lets be honest guys. We all know the PS5 will sell more globally and it won't be close. Microsoft is making moves to reduce that gap and if Sony become complacent they could catch up.
You forgot ratchet and Final Fantasy 16.True. But GoW2, HFW and Spiderman Miles Morales within first year of launch versus Craig Infinite doesn't come across as complacent to me, at least on Sony's side.
Lets be honest guys. We all know the PS5 will sell more globally and it won't be close. Microsoft is making moves to reduce that gap and if Sony become complacent they could catch up.
Yeah I don't know why anyone would suspect Sony is being complacent.True. But GoW2, HFW and Spiderman Miles Morales within first year of launch versus Craig Infinite doesn't come across as complacent to me, at least on Sony's side.
More PS5 stock on amazon SA now.
I believe Sony has enough consoles but they are opening and closing the tap . They are likely monitoring the demand of every of country and relocating units based on data.
It's funny but XsX in #2 while PS5 is #32 . I don't know what that means. Xbox always did ok here,but far from playstation
Any news on other retailers also getting stock?
More PS5 stock in UK tomorrow.
Any news on other retailers also getting stock?
Microsoft has to go all guns blazing 2022 onwards. They now have the studios to do so. Imagine a great Fallout on gamepass!Yeah I don't know why anyone would suspect Sony is being complacent.
There is always the chance for a delay drought.. not everything slated for 2021 shipping, etc.. but WTF does MS even have scheduled for the next year? And they have the same problem (software delays are typical under normal circumstances, let alone when you have to WFH and your codebase is a 100GB monster)
I would not be surprised is sales were something like 4:1 by the end of year 1. Playstation is just too damn popular right now compared to Xbox.
Ive luckily sorted myself out. Its a few mates that haven't got one in yet. Its going to be a free for all tomorrow.I definitely don't think GAME got stock out of thin air, so I would say keep an eye on Currys also. But if you don't have a PS5 yet I would take advantage of this and worry about the rest later. It's every man for himself.
Likely Amazon. It already restocked in the ME. Just open the browser and smash on that fucking F5. Use lubricant when neededAny news on other retailers also getting stock?
Ive luckily sorted myself out. Its a few mates that haven't got one in yet. Its going to be a free for all tomorrow.
What they've had every year since Don left. Wait one more year™There is always the chance for a delay drought.. not everything slated for 2021 shipping, etc.. but WTF does MS even have scheduled for the next year?
I know.. but my super cheap Gamepass deal will expire by then so I'm not all that excited lolMicrosoft has to go all guns blazing 2022 onwards. They now have the studios to do so. Imagine a great Fallout on gamepass!
Not with Call of Duty Cold war
It is available now. However, many people here want the digital only. Sony SA said no pre order for Digital, but it will be available on release.PS5 was sold out, will be back to #1 shortly after restocking.
You don't buy a next gen version to play on the last gen. That's "Smart Downgradibility".you just buy next gen bundle that works on both generations, so one game that works across both gens
It is available now. However, many people here want the digital only. Sony SA said no pre order for Digital, but it will be available on release.
Game looks like shit on all systems.
I was one of the people who wanted the DE, In the end I preordered the regular version.
The BC explanation by sony was very clear since day one. It's fanboys who keep interpreting stuff and confuse everyone.
Most PS4 games will work on PS5
Many of these games will be boosted by PS5 clock speed. Sony tested 100 games back in March and almost all of them worked well.
Sony never mentioned or promised PS3 BC. Only PS4.
It's not very difficult to comprehend
However, I agree with you that Sony communications this year sucks. Jim is not good for SIE. Many things went wrong since he took over.
what is ps5 for? Just play older games? This whole discussion is moot after 6 months once when we have more next gen games. the upgrade is clearly not for existing owners. just pretend it doesn’t exist. Then y’all gonna feel much better.I think us playstation fans are in for a rough generation. Microsoft is on the war path and sony cant even be bothered to show you with a screen shot or a video of why you should pay for a spider man upgrade. Long gone are the days of Andrew House and Adam Boyes. Jim Ryan looks a fool right now.
what is ps5 for? Just play older games? This whole discussion is moot after 6 months once when we have more next gen games. the upgrade is clearly not for existing owners. just pretend it doesn’t exist. Then y’all gonna feel much better.
Any BC is 99% even on PC. You cannot guarantee 100%. Even Microsoft office struggle to run some old excell files.You say clearly explained and yet they use words like most and "99%" etc and did not specify which will work and which will not. This is not a "clearly" statement. This is PR-bullshit-talk.
What is clear about boosted clock speed? Tell me what information it gives for the consumer? I personally understand it that the games will work at least like as on PS4/PS4PRO as it is stated in the Cerny Road to PS5 presentation.
But it will work better? Probably yes but still no clear statement.
What about games like bloodborne that did not recieve PS4Pro patch. They should easly hit 4k but will they?
As a homo sapiens I also think it is possible that games that recieved PS4Pro patches/graphic settings would BE able to combine both performance mode and resolution for PS5 bc but will they?
For me there are plenty of uncertainty about PS5 bc mode and even more after info from XBOX Smar Delivery "way of bc". Can we expect something similiar? Or not? Why the fuck Sony is silent. Just fucking tell us Sony. Shut down speculations, show us those games and how they work.
They emphasised BC and why they sticked 36 CU and many other hardwar solutions to give us best possible experiance with current-gen games. But the did not fucking show what it means for the consumer!
If you ask me - all we know for certain is that PS4 games will "mostly" work on PS5 and not a single fucking thing more is stated CLEARLY. And we are less than 2 moths from release date and few days after pre-order started. It is a fucking mess.
No where did they say future games will come to PlayStation or Nintendo platforms besides what’s contractually obligated to before the purchase.At the end MS will profit from it anyways, to me MS hasn't convinced me to get Xbox yet, maybe in future for Fallout, Skyrim or Starfield special edition XBOX will make me trigger.
for now I don't think they offer anything interest me.
Already announced Bethesda games won’t be exclusive to Xbox. What’s next is less clear.
If the system and games sell, that's pretty much all his job entails. He's not Chief Fanboy Satiater. His job is to put consoles in homes, and games in said consoles. I'd say he's off to a great start, given that the consoles are moving at a pace faster than the competition, and apparently faster than the very successful PS4.I get that its one game early in the generation. My point is that Sony are not even doing a good job explaining WHY you should have to apy extra for a next gen upgrade while their biggest competitor is purchasing entire publishers. Jim Ryan may not be the man for the Job...
The boost mode clearly boost performance mode and dynamic resolution.
So are we complaining about 1% now?You say clearly explained and yet they use words like most and "99%" etc and did not specify which will work and which will not. This is not a "clearly" statement. This is PR-bullshit-talk.
What is clear about boosted clock speed? Tell me what information it gives for the consumer? I personally understand it that the games will work at least like as on PS4/PS4PRO as it is stated in the Cerny Road to PS5 presentation.
But it will work better? Probably yes but still no clear statement.
What about games like bloodborne that did not recieve PS4Pro patch. They should easly hit 4k but will they?
As a homo sapiens I also think it is possible that games that recieved PS4Pro patches/graphic settings would BE able to combine both performance mode and resolution for PS5 bc but will they?
For me there are plenty of uncertainty about PS5 bc mode and even more after info from XBOX Smar Delivery "way of bc". Can we expect something similiar? Or not? Why the fuck Sony is silent. Just fucking tell us Sony. Shut down speculations, show us those games and how they work.
They emphasised BC and why they sticked 36 CU and many other hardwar solutions to give us best possible experiance with current-gen games. But the did not fucking show what it means for the consumer!
If you ask me - all we know for certain is that PS4 games will "mostly" work on PS5 and not a single fucking thing more is stated CLEARLY. And we are less than 2 moths from release date and few days after pre-order started. It is a fucking mess.
No where did they say future games will come to PlayStation or Nintendo platforms besides what’s contractually obligated to before the purchase.
What has Jez been doing to his poor One X? That corner geez.
I understand the frustration of Sony’s sloppyness when the other side dropped some news. But no one is perfect. People have short memories and forgot how bad the Xbox team had been doing until the acquisition news. And the acquisition itself has much less actual impact than people make out to be.I get that its one game early in the generation. My point is that Sony are not even doing a good job explaining WHY you should have to apy extra for a next gen upgrade while their biggest competitor is purchasing entire publishers. Jim Ryan may not be the man for the Job...
Games like elder scroll online and other mmos of course they’ll put everywhere he’s not putting any other games on PlayStation if they don’t allow gamepass. If that was the case hellblade 2 would be coming to PlayStation since then first one is on there.They never outright confirmed anything but Phil has gone on to say other consoles will be considered
That's a hell of a lot of money to recoup if he doesn't publish on PS, mind.Games like elder scroll online and other mmos of course they’ll put everywhere he’s not putting any other games on PlayStation if they don’t allow gamepass. If that was the case hellblade 2 would be coming to PlayStation since then first one is on there.
Games like elder scroll online and other mmos of course they’ll put everywhere he’s not putting any other games on PlayStation if they don’t allow gamepass. If that was the case hellblade 2 would be coming to PlayStation since then first one is on there.