Killer Sakoman
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Sethbacca
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You get the uprezzed versions of the base game, you don't get the graphical enhancements of the One X version of the game.
you get other enhancements though like better texture filtering etc. it’s not just better res and FPS. There is more to it.
Sethbacca
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The problem is that the X versions usually have better draw distance, foliage density, and better textures. Not sure why they cant just use those versions of the game.
Killer Sakoman
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The BC explanation by sony was very clear since day one. It's fanboys who keep interpreting stuff and confuse everyone.
Most PS4 games will work on PS5
Many of these games will be boosted by PS5 clock speed. Sony tested 100 games back in March and almost all of them worked well.
Sony never mentioned or promised PS3 BC. Only PS4.
It's not very difficult to comprehend
However, I agree with you that Sony communications this year sucks. Jim is not good for SIE. Many things went wrong since he took over.
BlueXImpulse
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True. But GoW2, HFW and Spiderman Miles Morales within first year of launch versus Craig Infinite doesn't come across as complacent to me, at least on Sony's side.
Killer Sakoman
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You forgot ratchet and Final Fantasy 16.
DaGwaphics
Member
This! Sony will have a commanding lead after the first 2 years. All MS can do is try to create reasons for console players to want their box too. Just like Nintendo already does. At least the Bethesda acquisition shows they are serious about that. No way Sony isn't blown away by how easy they are going to have it in the early going, MS is just out of position on software. Even the die-hard xbox fans can see that.
LiquidRex
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Could it all end in tears
BlueXImpulse
Banned
More PS5 stock in UK tomorrow.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Yeah I don't know why anyone would suspect Sony is being complacent.
There is always the chance for a delay drought.. not everything slated for 2021 shipping, etc.. but WTF does MS even have scheduled for the next year? And they have the same problem (software delays are typical under normal circumstances, let alone when you have to WFH and your codebase is a 100GB monster)
I would not be surprised is sales were something like 4:1 by the end of year 1. Playstation is just too damn popular right now compared to Xbox.
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Aceofspades
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More PS5 stock on amazon SA now.
I believe Sony has enough consoles but they are opening and closing the tap. They are likely monitoring the demand of every of country and relocating units based on data.
It's funny but XsX in #2 while PS5 is #32. I don't know what that means. Xbox always did ok here,but far from playstation
PS5 was sold out, will be back to #1 shortly after restocking.
Zoro7
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Any news on other retailers also getting stock?
More PS5 stock in UK tomorrow.
BlueXImpulse
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I definitely don't think GAME got stock out of thin air, so I would say keep an eye on Currys also. But if you don't have a PS5 yet I would take advantage of this and worry about the rest later. It's every man for himself.
Zoro7
Banned
Microsoft has to go all guns blazing 2022 onwards. They now have the studios to do so. Imagine a great Fallout on gamepass!
Zoro7
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Ive luckily sorted myself out. Its a few mates that haven't got one in yet. Its going to be a free for all tomorrow.
Killer Sakoman
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Likely Amazon. It already restocked in the ME. Just open the browser and smash on that fucking F5. Use lubricant when needed
BlueXImpulse
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Tell them to have the site open at all times. You have to remind them that we're in a pandemic, and having a new console to see you through it would help a lot!
PropellerEar
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What they've had every year since Don left. Wait one more year™
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
I know.. but my super cheap Gamepass deal will expire by then so I'm not all that excited lol
It will certainly get interesting..
(by 2022)
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VargasPaPuM
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pasterpl
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you just buy next gen bundle that works on both generations, so one game that works across both gens
Killer Sakoman
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It is available now. However, many people here want the digital only. Sony SA said no pre order for Digital, but it will be available on release.
BlueXImpulse
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Dabaus
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I think us playstation fans are in for a rough generation. Microsoft is on the war path and sony cant even be bothered to show you with a screen shot or a video of why you should pay for a spider man upgrade. Long gone are the days of Andrew House and Adam Boyes. Jim Ryan looks a fool right now.
PSX
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At the end MS will profit from it anyways, to me MS hasn't convinced me to get Xbox yet, maybe in future for Fallout, Skyrim or Starfield special edition XBOX will make me trigger.
for now I don't think they offer anything interest me.
Already announced Bethesda games won’t be exclusive to Xbox. What’s next is less clear.
for now I don't think they offer anything interest me.
Already announced Bethesda games won’t be exclusive to Xbox. What’s next is less clear.
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Entroyp
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Rocco Schiavone
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Killer Sakoman
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You don't buy a next gen version to play on the last gen. That's "Smart Downgradibility".
They are clearly advertising that all current Xone games can be upgraded to XsX by " Smart Delivery".
Anyway, it's stupid from us to argue and be upset over a feature that will be worthless after 12 months as Developers will develop next gen only after 2021.
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BlueXImpulse
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Here is the official confirmation
Aceofspades
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I was one of the people who wanted the DE, In the end I preordered the regular version.
PSX
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same here I couldn't snag one I am glad got Disc version PS5! it's nightmare to get one now
TheGejsza
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You say clearly explained and yet they use words like most and "99%" etc and did not specify which will work and which will not. This is not a "clearly" statement. This is PR-bullshit-talk.
What is clear about boosted clock speed? Tell me what information it gives for the consumer? I personally understand it that the games will work at least like as on PS4/PS4PRO as it is stated in the Cerny Road to PS5 presentation.
But it will work better? Probably yes but still no clear statement.
What about games like bloodborne that did not recieve PS4Pro patch. They should easly hit 4k but will they?
As a homo sapiens I also think it is possible that games that recieved PS4Pro patches/graphic settings would BE able to combine both performance mode and resolution for PS5 bc but will they?
For me there are plenty of uncertainty about PS5 bc mode and even more after info from XBOX Smar Delivery "way of bc". Can we expect something similiar? Or not? Why the fuck Sony is silent. Just fucking tell us Sony. Shut down speculations, show us those games and how they work.
They emphasised BC and why they sticked 36 CU and many other hardwar solutions to give us best possible experiance with current-gen games. But the did not fucking show what it means for the consumer!
If you ask me - all we know for certain is that PS4 games will "mostly" work on PS5 and not a single fucking thing more is stated CLEARLY. And we are less than 2 moths from release date and few days after pre-order started. It is a fucking mess.
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smallpotatosan
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what is ps5 for? Just play older games? This whole discussion is moot after 6 months once when we have more next gen games. the upgrade is clearly not for existing owners. just pretend it doesn’t exist. Then y’all gonna feel much better.
Dabaus
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I get that its one game early in the generation. My point is that Sony are not even doing a good job explaining WHY you should have to apy extra for a next gen upgrade while their biggest competitor is purchasing entire publishers. Jim Ryan may not be the man for the Job...
Killer Sakoman
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Any BC is 99% even on PC. You cannot guarantee 100%. Even Microsoft office struggle to run some old excell files.
The boost mode clearly boost performance mode and dynamic resolution.
R3claimer117
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No where did they say future games will come to PlayStation or Nintendo platforms besides what’s contractually obligated to before the purchase.
MastaKiiLA
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If the system and games sell, that's pretty much all his job entails. He's not Chief Fanboy Satiater. His job is to put consoles in homes, and games in said consoles. I'd say he's off to a great start, given that the consoles are moving at a pace faster than the competition, and apparently faster than the very successful PS4.
I understand making these weird narratives, and the "person X sucks at their job" mantra is the low hanging fruit, but the narrative should at least fit the action on-screen. And what we're seeing tells a different story from what I'm reading from you.
TheGejsza
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How much? And what games? Can we expect Bloodborne to run 60 fps? I mean some mere modder unlocked the framerate so can Sony do it? They at LEAST should give us info about performance of all PS4 1st party games on PS5. We are lacking details. People want to know more because they are aware that their "clear statemend about BC" might by just a bunch of pr-talk. I mean c'mon - the whole launch window is for a hardcore gamers/tech enthusiasts and it is not hard to guess that these kind of people want to know how things works and what exacly they are buying.
You see - what Sony gave us in their Road to PS5 presentation are some kind of generalisation without any details. At that time it was enough - but for now this is not enough.
Loxus
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So are we complaining about 1% now?
Is Sony suppose to look for those 10 games out of probably 4000 games to make it 100%?
If I remember right, the PS4 Pro runs most games at unlock frames and resolution, so PS5 should improve PS4 games a lot.
I don't see what's the problem was BC, Sony said the same with PS4 Pro boost mode and all games end up working.
The PS5 would work like a more powerful PS$ Pro when it comes to BC.
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Ass of Can Whooping
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They never outright confirmed anything but Phil has gone on to say other consoles will be considered
HeisenbergFX4
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What has Jez been doing to his poor One X? That corner geez.
Imtjnotu
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....... He clearly dropped it. Wtf
smallpotatosan
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I understand the frustration of Sony’s sloppyness when the other side dropped some news. But no one is perfect. People have short memories and forgot how bad the Xbox team had been doing until the acquisition news. And the acquisition itself has much less actual impact than people make out to be.
Calm down and have faith. We don’t own Sony. If it fails as a business, we will find other platforms to game on. There will be another player. Or maybe Nintendo will buy Sony. So it will be Nvidia vs AMD again. No biggie
R3claimer117
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Games like elder scroll online and other mmos of course they’ll put everywhere he’s not putting any other games on PlayStation if they don’t allow gamepass. If that was the case hellblade 2 would be coming to PlayStation since then first one is on there.
Handy Fake
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That's a hell of a lot of money to recoup if he doesn't publish on PS, mind.
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Ass of Can Whooping
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Zenimax is managing themselves independently of Xbox Game Studios
Too early to tell what their plans are.
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