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FunkMiller
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I kinda agree.
I don’t understand how this kind of thing wasn’t picked up in a meeting at some point.
LiquidRex
Member
So what explained what was the original deletion has been deleted.
INC
Member
I dont get how 500 people working on halo, and no one thought to say, are we sure we should show this.....
yewles1
Member
Keep that up and you'll be FINito around here...I was going to originally put you on a seated skateboard due to height restrictions but cannon had to do.
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FunkMiller
Member
I guess on Halo they HAD to show it. The backlash against it not being there would have been huge... but then it was anyway. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. 343 are clearly shit, so maybe that clusterfuck wasnt avoidable, but naming your consoles in a way guaranteed to cause confusion, and having your new console not be able to run games better than your old console, were both very, very avoidable.
yewles1
Member
It means DF are going to suddenly avoid looking at Gears 5 on the SS pending a resolution downgrade from the OX.
Just came across this while browsing YouTube; to think how close we came to be fucked in the ass by the “anti-consumer“ practices of MS & Xbox at the start of last gen !
*Shudders*
“ALWAYS ONLINE/NO DISC SHARING OR RESELLING”
We should all solemnly swear to “NEVER AGAIN” allow this kind of bs by any company in the future.
Mr Moose
Member
Penello is a known liar and FUD spreader, used to work for MS, now works for... I don't know, someone else lol. Caught spreading his bull on this very forum.
BGs
Industry Professional
"We believe that the overwhelming majority of the 4,000+ PS4 titles will be playable on PS5."
Sony does.
Unveiling New Details of PlayStation 5: Hardware Technical Specs [UPDATED]
Watch live for a deep dive into PS5's system architecture and how it will shape the future of games.blog.playstation.com
List of PlayStation 4 games - Wikipedia
That is why Wikipedia should be prohibited from being a reliable source of information (good general point of reference but possibly inaccurate at times).
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AeneaGames
Member
But GamePass does not only have old games tho. Granted it is mostly (going to be) first party games, Indies and others they managed to get a deal with but fact remains that theoretically it's not meant for old games.
PS Now on the other hand is.
Tho I just realised it's kinda funny that as a PlayStation fan I don't have a PS Now sub but do have a GamePass PC sub! Then again that is easily explained by wanting to play some of the Xbox exclusives that I couldn't (old pc was not capable) before and because I might want to play some of the future exclusives while on PS4 I just buy the games I want when they release...
Empire Strikes Back
Member
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Avatar please
xacto
Member
MastaKiiLA
Member
Was the store experiencing a major earthquake when this photo was taken? With smartphones everywhere, we get a picture just half a step better than a blurry distance shot of Sasquatch.Just in case you see this today.... Its a fake.
pasterpl
Member
Nice Ad Hominem
Pretty clear you don't like the message.
EDIT: one more
nope I am not upset, I am adult that is not getting upset by stuff online, it is just funny how any stupid tweet from Greenberg or Xbox marketing is getting slammed in here, and apparently, Sony camp is not doing any cringe and it is okay for guy that is game dev post something that is simply stupid (in context of him working in game industry and not being able to comprehend something that it is not that complex)
AeneaGames
Member
Even Bloomberg is just guessing based on publicly known bulk prices ( most of the time higher than actual in the world of bulk sales and large scale projects). This really depends on how much Sony is expected to sell and how that can influence the negotiations.
Also the price of the console is not based on the cost of the first year units but rather on the cost forcast in the longer term and how much is the profit forecast in that same time frame.
Also if sony sees high demand on their console then they may not worry much about launch year pricethey can keep it as high as they can and reduce it in a 2nd year. PS3 was able to sell 88 million despite a first year of 599. The market is much bigger now and Phil Spencer's Xbox is not Peter Moore' s Xbox.
But I doubt that Golem put the effort into trying to get a guesstimate of the consoles himself and as far as I know he has some game dev contacts but I do not believe any game dev is being told such a piece of information. Of course a game dev could have made a guesstimate as well but that's still a guesstimate and he seems to bring it as a fact...
hemo memo
Gold Member
I kinda agree.
Why is this big news? Can someone explain please? XSS is not a 4k console why would you want to play 4k games on it. Am i missing something here?
thurnishaleygw
Member
Not again, not the blue balls...
Mr Moose
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I believe we will see God Of War 2 as a "one more thing" big announcement, there seems to have been a lot of rumblings about that recently.
I would love for them to pull-out TLOU2 Factions MP, SOCOM Reboot or Silent Hill Reboot, just to put those rumors to bed. I hate when things drag-on and are hinted-at for YEARS, like the Demon's Souls Remake was, or changing PSN ID's was.
It really depends on if we're getting seperate videos/blog posts for console teardown, and UI features like Create Button, but if they're not doing a deep dive article, then I'd want to at least see the UI and a quick blurb about it. Sometimes you can infer intent just from seeing, rather than having some suit talk at you, so I wouldn't mind if they literally jumped in and out of games or trailers on the Media Player app, to show us things like load times, if there's any PS1/2/3 games sat on the dashboard etc.
I would love for them to pull-out TLOU2 Factions MP, SOCOM Reboot or Silent Hill Reboot, just to put those rumors to bed. I hate when things drag-on and are hinted-at for YEARS, like the Demon's Souls Remake was, or changing PSN ID's was.
It really depends on if we're getting seperate videos/blog posts for console teardown, and UI features like Create Button, but if they're not doing a deep dive article, then I'd want to at least see the UI and a quick blurb about it. Sometimes you can infer intent just from seeing, rather than having some suit talk at you, so I wouldn't mind if they literally jumped in and out of games or trailers on the Media Player app, to show us things like load times, if there's any PS1/2/3 games sat on the dashboard etc.
Snowdonhoffen
Member
If you believe in his words despite of his reputation and his dubious "dev" status that's okay.
Dodkrake
Banned
Why? Senior Devs from several developers have stressed the Series S will impact development, I take their word over a fake dev that has 0 games under his belt.
THE:MILKMAN
Member
I don't know if it's fake. From the same mall as the previous one
At best just placeholders again. Just look at how they can't even get the Xbox names right.
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Deleted member 775630
Unconfirmed Member
The console got too well received, so insecurity is getting the best of people
One of them who didn't have the hardware, and the other who will release games on PC with lower specs than the XSS.
Dodkrake
Banned
jimbojim
Banned
These guys are teasing you two in here? Let me straighten'em up
Well... I think these stones... they are like tombstones.
Now , don't you guys be trolling so much. Be good boys. Ponder at what tomorrow brings
Didn't you said that you ONLY REPLYING WHEN YOU'RE QUOTED?
So,
MasterCornholio
didn't quoted you. You quoted him and started with Machine Learning crap.LOL. Every todays modern GPU has a machine learning. PS4 Pro has it for checkerboard resolution for example, why the fuck PS5 wouldn't have it??? Sony recently patented tech similar to Nvidias DLSS Recontstruction Tehcnology to create multiple images using machine learning for PS5.
Sony patents technology similar to DLSS - KitGuru
Nvidia’s DLSS 2.0 has recently overtaken the conversation across the PC gaming sphere thanks to its
www.kitguru.net
Precisely that.
I just remembered
Only 2008 GAF will get this
When you see it
Recommend you to put Greatwhiteshark's avatar on Phil Spencers board, near Craig
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BatSu
Member
In Spain xbox is not well known. They can be quietly wrong
Mr Moose
Member
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Deleted member 775630
Unconfirmed Member
And Gavin does?
You're still in denial, it's ok.
I'm not saying Gavin is right, but like I said. Feel free to refute his comments, instead of questioning his character.
Mr Moose
Member
Didn't he lie about the specs on Era and get banned? He refuted himself.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Dodkrake
Banned
Again, his comments have been refuted by devs that have showed actual work in some of the biggest companies and working with some of the best game engines. Why should I even bother to refute a "dev" that has so far released no games? Do you understand how asinine that is?
Also, to your bullshit argument that Devs X / Y develop games for lower spec'd hardware on PC, that is proof that that lower spec'd hardware is the baseline. So for a game developed for the"next-gen" Xbox consoles, or just 'next-gen' consoles in general, your baseline will be the Series S, which can't even play One X enhanced games. That's all, a toddler could understand this: The lower your hardware target is, the less scope your game can have as more compromises need to be made.
Rudius
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THE:MILKMAN
Member
Okay. How about the Xbox prices then? They are a flat 249€/€499 and don't have those 90 cents on the end!
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
That guy is fun to read, but don't expect to learn anything.
Dodkrake
Banned
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Really? Tell me more:
Imagine the poor parent buys that fortnite version then to know that his kid can't play it because he needs to pay $10/month, $120/year GOLD to play free2play game.
INC
Member
Imagine the poor parent buys that fortnite version then to know that his kid can't play it because he needs to pay $10/month, $120/year GOLD to play free2play game.
Wait......what? Seriously, they have to have gold, to play a f2p game........Lol
So consumer friendly
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THE:MILKMAN
Member
Really? Tell me more:
The US/UK Tweets say $299/$499 and £249/£449....Though France Xbox Twitter says €299.99/€499,99!
Nobody has a consensus!
danielJackson
Banned
Maybe because MS markets BC as major part of their next gen systems
So it's not too far fetched to assume that next gen console can run current gen games, and one x is current gen console.
Xses isnt marketed as 4k system, but it's kind of weird that it cant run older gen games at 4k in the eyes if non-tech people.
Like if current gen console at 299-399€ can run these games, why 309,99€ next gen system cant, asks consumers.
Imagine the poor parent buys that fortnite version then to know that his kid can't play it because he needs to pay $10/month, $120/year GOLD to play free2play game.
Weird how xbox gold is x2 more expensive than ps+, which is usually 35-45€/year sale multiple times/year and even full price is 59-69€
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Deleted member 775630
Unconfirmed Member
Sure single tweet is completely refuting everything he says... While at the same time, we've also got a dev from Wastelands that says it's not that big of a deal, just a bit more work.
Also it's not a bullshit argument. Issue is that why would you complain about the XSS when there are worse PC's out there? Oh no the specs of the XSS are not to my liking, but I'll also develop for shittier systems. When you develop for Xbox, in 90% of the cases you are also developing for PC. So if you are accepting those shitty PC's that you want to support, then why are you complaining about the XSS?
You're acting like the XSS will hold back this gen, but that's plain ridiculous. The only way it would hold back next-gen is if developers are going for 1440p on PS5/XSX. That's not what Microsoft is expecting, they expect native 4K. If that's what most devs will push for, there won't be an issue on the XSS.
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Bo_Hazem
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Yes, many are trying to hide this horrendous fact. All free2play games are free to play online on PS4 and The Switch, but not on xbox, and people wonder why PS4/switch have spiked lately while xbox is still deep in the mud.
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