Empire Strikes Back
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Maybe it's just too good not to implement in your game. I don't know, at this point so many devs praised this tech that I find hard for it not to be the case.
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JTCx
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Don't forget to finance to the All Access, adding more debt is the true next gen experience.
Mr Moose
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yurqqa
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They just speed it up so you won't have to wait that much and feel the pain of this generation loading.
Amd they didn't speed up the Series S video.
No mystery actually.
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kyliethicc
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The people who thought devs wouldn't use the haptics didn't think clearly.
Its like saying a PS4 game won't use the rumble on the DualShock 4. All games use it.
MasterCornholio
Member
kyliethicc
Member
Oof a Call of Duty developer saying Series S is a bottleneck for next gen games. Not good.
Vae_Victis
Banned
Unless it would end up losing Sony an insane amount of money due to a drastically different BOM (unlikely), there is no way at this point they won't price match the XSX at $499. There is no need to go lower than that with the standard model, the overall brand recognition, better games offer and technical advantages (like the I/O) will be more than enough to make it more than competitive against the XSX.
The real game they have to play now is Digital Edition against XSS. Will they simply ignore it and go for $50 cheaper (closest to BOM difference with the standard model)? Will they try to push harder knowing they will make up with game revenue from PSN and go with $399. Or, crazy idea, will they REALLY push it and go down to something completely insane, like $349, just to aggressively cut-out XSS? They might manage to recoup the cost thanks to said digital only nature and guaranteed sales through their store, but it will be a much more significant hit on their immediate revenue, and could end up somehow make their own other model redundant to most consumers.
Final estimates by me:
- PS5 Standard = $499 (90% chance); $449 (5% chance); $549 (5% chance)
- PS5 Digital = $399 (75% chance); $449 (15% chance); $349 (10% chance)
The real game they have to play now is Digital Edition against XSS. Will they simply ignore it and go for $50 cheaper (closest to BOM difference with the standard model)? Will they try to push harder knowing they will make up with game revenue from PSN and go with $399. Or, crazy idea, will they REALLY push it and go down to something completely insane, like $349, just to aggressively cut-out XSS? They might manage to recoup the cost thanks to said digital only nature and guaranteed sales through their store, but it will be a much more significant hit on their immediate revenue, and could end up somehow make their own other model redundant to most consumers.
Final estimates by me:
- PS5 Standard = $499 (90% chance); $449 (5% chance); $549 (5% chance)
- PS5 Digital = $399 (75% chance); $449 (15% chance); $349 (10% chance)
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splattered
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But by how much though? If it's just by $50 then you lose out on the ability to play your physical discs on a less powerful system (on paper) so i'm not 100% sure that would be a convincing argument. Undercut them by $100 though and then we're talking.
So you don’t have to wait a full 50+ seconds to see the actual loading time of the Xbox one S.
Empire Strikes Back
Member
Stop, the last guy is from Infinity Ward. They are clearly a Sony 1st party, shhhhhh....
Aceofspades
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FranXico
Member
You answered your own question.
There were a lot less people noticing that than the amount of people timing the R&C demo, I'll tell you that.
Sethbacca
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The ongoing fees sucking consumers money with gamepass disincentivising other purchases is a sure way to make 3rd parties consider not support your box. Should be an interesting generation it just feels like they're cannibalizing the entire reason they exist.
BlueXImpulse
Banned
kyliethicc
Member
Guy doesn't know shit. Biased. I mean who even plays COD anyway. Not a real game developer like pigeon man.
GermanZepp
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kyliethicc
Member
Exactly. Microsoft are boldly saying to gamers ... don't buy games, just pay us and no one else. I bet some publishers don't like that idea.
Empire Strikes Back
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Yes, he clearly received a bag full of money from the Sony/Activision COD deal. It's obvious people, this guy is 1st party. WAKE UP!!!1
Wandering Leopard
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Both points of view can be correct.
More thank likely, if its a big team with a lot of resources it's probably fine; if not, then it's another project people will need to find the time to work on and deliver.
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jimbojim
Banned
One hour later he wrote another tweet with proper explanation in some way. SMT will be a standard in next gen. Not a single core thread tasks. But curios, how one gaming journalist can be so dumb
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Vae_Victis
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Game's FB page. The post has been deleted.
What is that all about these game store(s)?
I don't trust them
kyliethicc
Member
Phil told me already being held back is a meme. Series S can't be bad for next-gen game dev.
2ndKrueger
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Game's FB page. The post has been deleted.
Darius87
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ReasonIt's also available on PC. Can't wait to see the more graphical effects over the PS5.
(plus many other posts and warnings) - Happy to have a vetted pro on the site but the PC is better than console
argument is getting tired. We have tried to accommodate your concerns, now please address this. Thank you.
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Vae_Victis
Banned
Apparently the mods got fed up with him doing nothing other than aggressively proselytizing for PC and against consoles everywhere. Check the ban thread (link at the bottom of the page).
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FranXico
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The sky is green, my friends. Don't believe your eyes.
kyliethicc
Member
He's not dumb. He's borderline Microsoft PR. He knows what to do.
Mr Moose
Member
Remedy and Infinity Ward are pretty big though, and they are saying this.
jimbojim
Banned
He is dumb DELIBERATELY
kyliethicc
Member
They're huge studios. AAA.
INC
Member
Banned for that? Seems like standard banter to me.
I'm sure he rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, but seemed pretty harmless to me. But whatever tbh. I wont mention it again and move on
Dibils2k
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its just to save time, they didnt want to sit there for full 57 secs
kyliethicc
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INC
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Nickolaidas
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HA. HAHAHA HA.Demon souls new gameplay screens (similar to old pictures but different)
Fuckk it's gorgeous
Cover is also updated
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Vae_Victis
Banned
Isn't UFC 4 also in the middle of a giant shitstorm for adding in-game adds during matches, weeks after release (and reviews)?Damn Madden 21 on Game Pass? I gotta get that Xbox red.
Did they really not have any other games to name right now as an example?
sircaw
Banned
What am i missing here, is that 12 seconds to load the finished game. No disrespect here but that seems really crappy to me.
I was expecting a game like that to his a couple of seconds at the most, why the hell is it so long. If i recall the state of decay 2 demo was like 6 + seconds or so, why is it not in line with this or less.
Is it the developers that are falling here or is the hardware, not all that it's cracked up to be.
I wonder what the ps will load it in then or is it going to be the same. Mind you, is that a Microsoft studio.
I would not of showed a demo loading 12 secs, surely they could of found some much faster loads to present there stuff
Nickolaidas
Member
You tell them, VFX!!no it can't look that good it doesn't use any new tech that pc does these consoles are very limited it doesn't have shader capability pc does anyway anything that looks this good means it's not gameplay.
You go tell those console peasant cocksuckers how it's done on PC!!!
Wandering Leopard
Member
Then that's... more than a little troubling.
Considering the S has been an open secret for so long (plus the way it was eventually unveiled), It seems like even MS were unsure about it; and by releasing it, MS might have lost goodwill among some devs.
kyliethicc
Member
lol that shit was fucking funny thank you genuinely for the laugh
MasterCornholio
Member
It's a 2 week ban, not permanent.
He just needs to improve his attitude.
Dude, you are being ridiculous. How the hell are you going to twist me coming in here today to be that I am trying to start a conflict with people when the last few pages have been ganging up on @TheGreatWhiteShark ?
In regards to the Ban/Review thread:
You didn't finish posting the entire conversation I had with @EviLore where we both agreed that "personal attacks" should and will be moderated more closely. I can conversate all day long about the PS5/XSX/PC and it's strengths/merits/etc.. but I can't stand the constant dogpiling of Xbox gamers here on this thread specifically and definitely can't stand someone trying to make me look like I'm a menace to society because I have been wrong about judging some things in the past. I'm not perfect and neither is anyone else. Including your favorite sourceHeisenbergFX4 . You seem to forgive him very easily.
Right now, you are making it out to be I'm the troublemaker but yet, I didn't come here and troll anyone. Do you really think the mods are that stupid? Or anyone else reading this that have known my history and read all my posts?
Tried to warn him about what he was doing but he didn't listen. I put him on ignore shortly after that and just watched the ban page. He's that predictable.
Dibils2k
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isnt it because its not optimized for series x? like will PS4 games load in 2secs? wouldnt they need to still program for the advantages of the architectures
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