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Dusk Golem reiterates that the Xbox will be more powerful than the PS5 (Admitted to starting console wars, demodded)

If his statements had any bearing on reality we wouldn't be getting this type of comment from 3rd parties..

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Sorry for not cutting etc.

But there is proof that PS5 has no issue going well above 60fps and 4K without optimization.... and that game was quite good looking graphically.

He said alot of things and the developers of Quantum Error are not the only ones making games for the system.
 

Bryank75

Banned
He said alot of things and the developers of Quantum Error are not the only ones making games for the system.

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Raekwon26

Member
The more that I read this made up stuff the more pathetic it gets.

It's video game consoles. I truly can not grasp the type of psycho you have to be to do shit like this.

..... and all because more people prefer PlayStation?

Nut-job. Dude is a nut-job.
 
I'm seeing in the title that Dusk Golem said that he made it up. Can I see some sort of proof that this is true?

I knew he made that one sided comment but he could have just been withholding that information. Him saying that it's fake is a completely different story.

At the moment I'm a little confused with this development.

TheGreatWhiteShark TheGreatWhiteShark I thought you might want to this this since the title change.
Since you mention me, I looked up his twitter, and the dude still stands by what he said



as I said since the very first day these news broke out, guy must be feeling very bad for the trouble he is causing his friends at capcom who told him what is currently going on.
its good to be in context and remember that this is a game sony pays for PR rights. so the developers, with this info leaked probably getting some pressure from upper levels.

never the less, never once he took back what he said.
I also saw people on twitter trying to corner him by asking him all kinds of bullshit, like what version the tools were etc.
I find this really pathetic. He was not asked to debug the freakin' game, he was just told in a friendly conversation the status quo.

also maybe you have noticed that no official statement from capcom to disprove him has been made yet. no "Both consoles versions are shaping up great at 4k/60" announcement.
we saw on the posts above just how fast jim ryan and the developers were to disprove the claim for that other game, which probably is magnitudes lower in popularity, budget, and even sony royalties paid.


I don't know how people now are saying that its tales from his ass, his other leak for capcom and SF6 sounded much more crazy and it came true. maybe its tales from their ass instead.
So if somebody has a source that is not in dust's tweeter feed, it'be good to post it for the rest of us to see.
 
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demigod

Member
4. Another Sony super fan @LED Guy? posted a faked photoshopped, previously debunked screen of @Berncastle supposedly from Xbox discord to create diversionary drama when that Twitter info from the PS5 graphic engineer said the PS5 was RDNA 1.5 or something (also ended up being true he said it) I think I even saw something about the person that revealed the info got severely harassed, death threats(?)

Fanboys/girls from both sides are obnoxious (myself included), but too many Sony fans go WAY overboard when they feel their plastic box is threatened and they really do come across as the Info Wars fans of gaming.

/END RANT :messenger_winking:

You cry about Sony fans calling out FUD, yet you spread more FUD. PS5 is RDNA2, facts. Craig really did a number on y’all :messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy:
 

fallingdove

Member
I appreciate that even though you are a pretty hardcore Sony fan you can at least look at things far more objectively than your Sony brethren. But a few comments:

1. GitHub turned out to be real and people got banned in the spec thread because Sony fans threw tantrums, demanded people be banned and reported them any time anyone dared suggest it was real.

2. The case of Tommy Fisher is hilarious. Anyone with 2 brain cells should have be able to tell he was a fake and totally full of shit, but since he was saying what Sony fans wanted to hear (13.8tfs) they bought all his BS. I recall one of the clique bragging the day before the Cerny reveal bragging about 13.8 and calling Xbox fans clowns and losers until @Mod of War put a stop to it. I have NO sympathy for Sony fans that let themselves get taken by that troll.

3. Another one of the Sony super fans went rabid on John from DF and drove him out because DF hadn't made a video stating PS5 was RDNA2 before Cerny even revealed the PS5

4. Another Sony super fan @LED Guy? posted a faked photoshopped, previously debunked screen of @Berncastle supposedly from Xbox discord to create diversionary drama when that Twitter info from the PS5 graphic engineer said the PS5 was RDNA 1.5 or something (also ended up being true he said it) I think I even saw something about the person that revealed the info got severely harassed, death threats(?)

5. Not familiar with Brad Sams downplaying the SSD, but I'm WAY too familiar with Sony fans constantly overplaying it. One guy created like 8 or 10 SSD threads all by himself.

Fanboys/girls from both sides are obnoxious (myself included), but too many Sony fans go WAY overboard when they feel their plastic box is threatened and they really do come across as the Info Wars fans of gaming.

/END RANT :messenger_winking:

It’s funny that you talk about objectivity and then close with that moronic last paragraph — back to persecution complex and an attempt to direct attention away from the sad reality that is Xbox.
 
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Deleted member 471617

Unconfirmed Member
I just want to know if the Silent Hill rumors from Dusk Golem were also fake?

As for Xbox Series X vs PlayStation 5 game comparisons, I'll just wait for Digital Foundry to post their videos come November and the tear downs for Xbox Series X/Series S and PlayStation 5.
 

geordiemp

Member
I am pretty sure CatLady CatLady is referring to the Engineer that said its somewhere between 1 & 2.

Not sure if she saw the follow up that its based on RDNA 2 with some added features and missing 1 feature from RDNA 2.

Cerny and naughty dog has a recent patent on the Geometry engine compression of vertices and shaders.

I hope its not standard RDNA2, we need some of that sauce.

What have you heard about the new ps5 Geometry engine ?

I would not be surprised if sony ditched VRS, as Sony have a patent on a VR version that does varable shading in mesh segments more suited to VR and wide angle view frustums (another patent). That is the RDNA2 missing.
 
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also maybe you have noticed that no official statement from capcom to disprove him has been made yet. no "Both consoles versions are shaping up great at 4k/60" announcement.
we saw on the posts above just how fast jim ryan and the developers were to disprove the claim for that other game, which probably is magnitudes lower in popularity, budget, and even sony royalties paid.

Why should they if it isn't a launch title like Quantum Error is?

There's no hurry to disprove this plus they have a marketing deal with Sony if I'm not mistaken. They probably want to demo the game on the PS5 at some point and that's where you will hear that information.
 

CatLady

Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
I am pretty sure CatLady CatLady is referring to the Engineer that said its somewhere between 1 & 2.

Not sure if she saw the follow up that its based on RDNA 2 with some added features and missing 1 feature from RDNA 2.

Exactly. I have never disputed PS5 is RDNA 2. I actually got into with people that kept trying to claim it wasn't RDNA2 right after the AMD conference.
 
Exactly. I have never disputed PS5 is RDNA 2. I actually got into with people that kept trying to claim it wasn't RDNA2 right after the AMD conference.
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Although I'm in the camp that it isn't exactly like RDNA2 on PC. There are customizations that make it different.

Not trying to argue which one is better but neither is your typical RDNA2 chip.
 

Camreezie

Member
Is this guy reliable for anything outside of Capcom/ Silent Hill? Like has there been any evidence of claims outside those?
 

CatLady

Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
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Although I'm in the camp that it isn't exactly like RDNA2 on PC. There are customizations that make it different.

Not trying to argue which one is better but neither is your typical RDNA2 chip.

It may be slightly different than what's in a PC, but I believe Lisa Su herself said the PS5 is RDNA 2. That's close enough and good enough for me.
 

jimbojim

Banned
never the less, never once he took back what he said.
I also saw people on twitter trying to corner him by asking him all kinds of bullshit, like what version the tools were etc.
I find this really pathetic. He was not asked to debug the freakin' game, he was just told in a friendly conversation the status quo.

also maybe you have noticed that no official statement from capcom to disprove him has been made yet. no "Both consoles versions are shaping up great at 4k/60" announcement.

Yet he walked away when Matt Hargett asked him to be more specific. So much about that he stands behind his words.
Capcom doesn't need to answer to Dusk Golem crap. Neither dev actually. It's their will they do it or not. Like Quantum Error dev slap some Xbox fan recently few hours ago
 

pixelation

Member
It is known that the XSX is the more powerful of the two, I don't see anybody denying that except for the small handfull of delusional usual suspects that try to turn and twist in every corner they possibly can. They will be in for a rude awakening I reckon when all third party games inevitably play better on XSX.
Yeah it's more powerful but so what?, you can give boxes of colors to two different artists. Give the more talented artist a box with 24 colors and give the less talented artist a box with 48 colors, I bet that the artist with the most talent is still going to turn in a more impressive work (even though he was working with less colors). Same thing, we have already seen that with the PS4 Pro and the XBO X. Microsoft's first party is not in the same league as Sony's, not even close... I mean look at Halo Infinite... damn... look at 'em 12 TFLOPS at work...
 
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Yet he walked away when Matt Hargett asked him to be more specific. So much about that he stands behind his words.
Capcom doesn't need to answer to Dusk Golem crap. Neither dev actually. It's their will they do it or not. Like Quantum Error dev slap some Xbox fan recently few hours ago
Can you point me to what you are saying? I looked at his tweets just a little while ago, when cornholio mentioned me.
I think the entire conversation between the two is in the pic below,
and last tweet is Dust once again doubling down and vouching for his information.

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Have I missed something?
 
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PresetError

Neophyte
Can you point me to what you are saying? I looked at his tweets just a little while ago, when cornholio mentioned me.
I think the entire conversation between the two is in the pic below,
and last tweet is Dust once again doubling down and vouching for his information.

dustmat.jpg

Have I missed something?

Yeah, you missed him admitting in Reeee that he brought up the PS5 fake 4K info FUD because after the Halo Infinite delay negative next gen news were "too one sided".
 
Yeah, you missed him admitting in Reeee that he brought up the PS5 fake 4K info FUD because after the Halo Infinite delay negative next gen news were "too one sided".
let's clear the thing about matt first.

then, what you are saying is almost correct, except for the <<FUD>> part.
he did say that as he was seeing all the hoopla about xbox, he felt like he should chime in and offer his information.
 
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So it seems nothing has really changed, and he never said he made anything up. He just gave some info as he felt people were being one sided about next gen. Regardless of whether that’s a good reason, he still maintains the info is true
this is my understanding, and as I said I re-checked his tweets a short while ago when cornholio mentioned me.
if I am missing something, please point to the direction, although I am pretty sure I checked thoroughly
 
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Where is that screen shot from? A youruber?

I believe it was from someone from Resetera who looked at the trailer. If you zoom in on the part marked 720P you can see how bad the texture is. Even from a distance it's noticeable worse than the one on the right.

Edit: Found it


Alex's response

 
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Greeno

Member
Can we just wait until November to see how these consoles actually compare? We can have much more meaningful conversations while the consoles are not out yet. Like:

* Will all next-gen games have that smart fish AI COD Ghosts provided?
* Will ketchup act as ketchup in next-gen games?
* Will we have a gameplay mechanic where we have to poop in real life?
* etc.

All these important and serious next-gen questions need to be discussed.
 

Redlight

Member
I'm seeing in the title that Dusk Golem said that he made it up. Can I see some sort of proof that this is true?

I knew he made that one sided comment but he could have just been withholding that information. Him saying that it's fake is a completely different story.

At the moment I'm a little confused with this development.

TheGreatWhiteShark TheGreatWhiteShark I thought you might want to this this since the title change.
I can't see it either. He was sacked as a Era mod? Badge of honour I would think.

If he said that he mentioned it to counter 'one sided news' then it goes only to his motivation, not truthfulness. I've found zero indication that he admitted to making anything up.

What he posted was an interesting tid-bit, that's it. Given the 'Xbox is doomed' drama he's really just indicating that it's not all smooth sailing on the good ship Sony, he even says that it's unlikely to be an issue for long.

The hysteria has mostly been Sony fans scrambling to Defcon 1.

Even trusty old Matt said "If this is even true", not 'this isn't true'. He's generally not shy in refuting anything negative to Sony, strange that he wasn't definitive. Certainly doesn't prove that Golem was 'making up BS'.

The thread title appears to be more misleading than it was before, or is that just me?

As for that clown from Twitter, 'Trugiffers', wow. He's a poster in the next-gen thread for sure. :)
 
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SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
I appreciate that even though you are a pretty hardcore Sony fan you can at least look at things far more objectively than your Sony brethren. But a few comments:

1. GitHub turned out to be real and people got banned in the spec thread because Sony fans threw tantrums, demanded people be banned and reported them any time anyone dared suggest it was real.

2. The case of Tommy Fisher is hilarious. Anyone with 2 brain cells should have be able to tell he was a fake and totally full of shit, but since he was saying what Sony fans wanted to hear (13.8tfs) they bought all his BS. I recall one of the clique bragging the day before the Cerny reveal bragging about 13.8 and calling Xbox fans clowns and losers until @Mod of War put a stop to it. I have NO sympathy for Sony fans that let themselves get taken by that troll.

3. Another one of the Sony super fans went rabid on John from DF and drove him out because DF hadn't made a video stating PS5 was RDNA2 before Cerny even revealed the PS5

4. Another Sony super fan @LED Guy? posted a faked photoshopped, previously debunked screen of @Berncastle supposedly from Xbox discord to create diversionary drama when that Twitter info from the PS5 graphic engineer said the PS5 was RDNA 1.5 or something (also ended up being true he said it) I think I even saw something about the person that revealed the info got severely harassed, death threats(?)

5. Not familiar with Brad Sams downplaying the SSD, but I'm WAY too familiar with Sony fans constantly overplaying it. One guy created like 8 or 10 SSD threads all by himself.

Fanboys/girls from both sides are obnoxious (myself included), but too many Sony fans go WAY overboard when they feel their plastic box is threatened and they really do come across as the Info Wars fans of gaming.

/END RANT :messenger_winking:
yeah, like i said they go too far, but i chalk it to it having ptsd. i swear i see all these rumors and think the worst. its getting on people's nerves because i look at every single bad news about the ps5 as being true, and if that isnt ptsd i dont know what is.

github was real but far from accurate. it had outdated info like Matt said. the only thing it got right was the number of CUs. the ps5 has hardware rt, higher clocks, is rdna 2.0 and has lower memory bandwidth than what was in the github leaks. and yet, colbert, r600 and all the other guys dismissed Matt, klee, jason, and everyone else who said ps5 was in double digits.

and im pretty sure it was me and not LED guy who brought up that old screenshot again a few weeks ago, but it wasnt faked. it was originally posted way back in april by the discord insiders. i just didnt know Lady Berkenstal had already cleared things up with the mods in the ban justice thread back in april when all this went down. from what i understand, she said someone took her name after she left, but the rest of the stuff was definitely real since they removed some of the users who had made racists comments towards yoshida and banned all the new posters. if it wasnt real they wouldnt have acted like that.
 
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I can't see it either. He was sacked as a Era mod? Badge of honour I would think.

If he said that he mentioned it to counter 'one sided news' then it goes only to his motivation, not truthfulness. I've found zero indication that he made anything up.

What he posted was an interesting tid-bit, that's it. Given the 'Xbox is doomed' drama he's really just indicating that it's not all smooth sailing on the good ship Sony, he even says that it's unlikely to be an issue for long.

The hysteria has mostly been Sony fans scrambling to Defcon 1.

Even trusty old Matt said "If this is even true", not 'this isn't true'. He's generally not shy in refuting anything negative to Sony, strange that he wasn't definitive. Certainly doesn't prove that Golem was 'making up BS'.

The thread title appears to be more misleading than it was before, or is that just me?

As for that clown from Twitter, 'Trugiffers', wow. He's a poster in the next-gen thread for sure. :)

The only thing I'll say is that I really can't trust an insider that participates in the console war more than one who doesn't.

If he didn't make that comment about equalizing the playing field I would take him more seriously.

Just my opinion.
 

Redlight

Member
The only thing I'll say is that I really can't trust an insider that participates in the console war more than one who doesn't.

If he didn't make that comment about equalizing the playing field I would take him more seriously.

Just my opinion.
Fair enough, I don't know that he's right or believable, any of these guys should be taken with a massive grain of salt. In some ways I'd be even more wary of the insider that 'don't participate'. It seems to me that most of those have a barrow to push, it's just a camouflaged barrow.

The only one I'll stick with is Gabe Newell. :)

I'm really more interested in the thread title saying that he 'admitted to making up BS' when I can't find anything to support that.
 
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93xfan

Banned
Fair enough, I don't know that he's right or believable, any of these guys should be taken with a massive grain of salt. In some ways I'd be even more wary of the insider that 'don't participate'. It seems to me that most of those have a barrow to push, it's just a camouflaged barrow.

The only one I'll stick with is Gabe Newell. :)

I'm really more interested in the thread title saying that he 'admitted to making up BS' when I can't find anything to support that.

It’s completely misleading. When I first read the title, i wondered why an anonymous leaker who already was proven to have inside info on Resident Evil 8 would just openly admit to making things up. what would’ve been the point of doing it in the first place? It’s not like they guessed something that was be proven false and have no choice to come clean
 
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