Killer Sakoman
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Why are we still here? Just to suffer?
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sircaw
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I am not even sure how to reply to that.
Keep your private stash of this site please.
saintjules
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I have a feeling they're going to announce the next event at the end of SoP.
JonnyMP3
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I posted this on another thread last week but from what I've read from people... There will actually have to be on a whole new Motherboard Architecture designed because current PCB won't cut it.
Nickolaidas
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hemo memo
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Nah probably by the end of August so they wouldn’t announce it early when things could easily change.
MasterCornholio
Member
Yeah that's why I'm not going to wait for mine because I am looking for a wireless headset for my PC.
Red_Driver85
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That's it. And this is a big problem in itself. There will be brutforce again, because it's easier and clearer.
Barakov
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You're just mad you can't see her feet.Average looking, seen better at my local Chippy.
sircaw
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JonnyMP3
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But this all depends on the tech and the ability for adoption rate. If it turns out this way works faster and more efficient and builds upon computational power then the market and sectors will have to swing this way. If the PS5 shines and the custom stuff Sony has made with AMD works and they're showing it in games, it makes RDNA3 potentially a bit special because the bottlenecks that the PC space has been brute forcing for 20 years to overcome is redundant. There's no need for 'power' to do extra hard jobs because the speed is so much more superior.
And in any tech sphere... The quicker and more responsive, the better!
GAF machine
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In a nutshell it means the RSX (PS3's GPU) didn't have to be saddled with the burden of processing all the geometry that made up character models and scenery.
Devs could use CELL's SPUs as "geometry engines" to process any piece of or even the entire geometry pipeline (e.g., reducing the level-of-detail (LOD) of objects as they move into the distance, culling triangles that won't be visible in a scene, etc.) for the RSX so that its precious resources could be focused on processing only those things that would contribute to what would be shown on screen.
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sircaw
Banned
Finally, universal translator machine has kicked in.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
the adapter hooks into your USB ports and makes it a wireless headset on PCs as well.
Hawking Radiation
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This last 2 pages is fucking wild LMFAO
Thanks for the laughs guys.
Thanks for the laughs guys.
Neo Blaster
Member
Perfect way to keep momentum on their userbase and pressure on MS.
sircaw
Banned
Some of the people in these forums, total fucking nutta's I tell you.
Sometimes I feel like I am the only sane voice of reason around here, wait till Bo sees what these people have been up to, poor guy is gonna need therapy.
Red_Driver85
Member
I think it's generally not about the PC to change everything so easily at the click of your fingers. AMD is not Intel or NVIDIA, they will not be able to influence the market in this way, because they are not even close to the leaders of the consumer PC market. The only option is when all of 3 will be able to unite in this single direction. Otherwise, nothing will happen. It's like with APU HSA on PC. There is no software, no remade motherboards, nothing like that, because it goes against the ideology of the PC. What's good for consoles isn't always good for PCs.
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JonnyMP3
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As I said, depends on adoption. If something like this get put into servers and data centres quick and it's much faster... That adoption rate will skyrocket!
FunkMiller
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Not yet, but if Lara ends up looking like that, you’ll be able to hear the screams of rage coming from Era a thousand miles away.
Gamernyc78
Banned
Rumor has it Ellen Paige will be the next Lara Croft Ewwww fuglyyyy
Red_Driver85
Member
Hmm, I don't think so. Server PC markets and the consumer market, if they have edges of contact, it is only on some things and only many years after. Because the price levels are too different. What can consoles bring to the server market? In my opinion, nothing. The maximum I expect is that dma-engines to gpu will appear on nvme ssd. That's all. You don't even have to wait for something more ambitious.
JonnyMP3
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It's the tech AMD are working on. Not just in the console sphere with Sony. It's the reconfiguration of architecture to be able to do jobs quicker, cheaper and more power efficient. This is all potentially going into their Navi stuff in RDNA3. So you may have an opinion but so do AMD. And only one of you is a microchip engineering manufacturing company.
Tripolygon
Banned
Just Beautiful.
Red_Driver85
Member
It's weird, I kind of wrote that it doesn't just depend on RDNA 3.0. The whole system should work as a whole, which has never been and never will be on a PC. I don’t even touch any features and so on with regards to GPU architectures. It is absolutely natural to believe that development will not stop in any way. But I didn't write about this at all, but about the fact that it is impossible to make a system on a PC similar to the PS5. This is also obvious.
Maybe on a PC we will see something similar, simplified of course, but with a same principle:
Pliops | Enabling Fast and Cost-Effective Data Center Storage
Pliops' Extreme Data Processor (XDP) speeds up databases, applications, and analytics by 10x while reducing infrastructure costs up to 5x.
pliops.com
ArcaneNLSC
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sircaw
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JonnyMP3
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I'm guessing English isn't your native language but what you've just shown me is a basically what I'm getting at.It's weird, I kind of wrote that it doesn't just depend on RDNA 3.0. The whole system should work as a whole, which has never been and never will be on a PC. I don’t even touch any features and so on with regards to GPU architectures. It is absolutely natural to believe that development will not stop in any way. But I didn't write about this at all, but about the fact that it is impossible to make a system on a PC similar to the PS5. This is also obvious.
Maybe on a PC we will see something similar, simplified of course, but with a same principle:
Pliops | Enabling Fast and Cost-Effective Data Center Storage
Pliops' Extreme Data Processor (XDP) speeds up databases, applications, and analytics by 10x while reducing infrastructure costs up to 5x.
Sony is helping AMD with architecture in the hardware.
Sony have helped AMD do customisation on their on the RDNA cores that AMD have implemented into their design including HARDWARE ACCELERATION. That's literally what your link is telling me. Custom hardware acceleration because of the same diminishing returns, I had already stated with the efficiency and power draw. What do you think the custom I/O unit is?
AMD will look at the PS5 as the testing/proving ground for the new architecture to work. If the resulting throughput of the PS5 design is successful in some form to be more efficient that's good. If it proves to be more efficient than the standard PC architecture. It will be adopted.
Because the other scenario is unless we get into smaller nodes, things will have to get bigger and drawn more power to keep brute forcing stuff. But if architecture changes to do all the same stuff for less power... It will happen. Intel and Nvidia will have to try and follow suit which means Mobo makers will inevitably follow. Catch the logic? Because if you don't, you're heading into that tech dead end where brute force just won't cut it any more.
FunkMiller
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Killer Sakoman
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Empire Strikes Back
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Killer Sakoman
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PC's individual components are still evolving, However, I am afraid they cannot play much with it's overall architecture. That will be a big shake up and the transitional period will be chaotic. PCs will not evolve until they reach a dead end.
JonnyMP3
Member
Wow. I didn't realise Nvidia managed Direct Storage last year. That's the part that was missing. Everything straight to GPU from storage.
Took... 6 years. Damn.
PaintTinJr
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JonnyMP3
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But as clever people and looking ahead... Working out ways to go before we hit the dead end is the fun part!
Red_Driver85
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It's not possible in the same way as in the PS5. Similar, like in the XsX, but not the same, like in the PS5.
The PC must maintain its traditional versatility. The way the PS5 system works is not absolutely beneficial to the PC, because of variety hardeare, software layering, api abstractions, etc. Need to ground up and rebuilt PC system. When was the last time this happened? Never ever.
JonnyMP3
Member
Until we hit the dead end and we will have to. There's only so many nanometers we can go before it's architecture that has to change.
We're at 7 mostly. Then 5, then 3 then 1 then what?
Red_Driver85
Member
Read about Magnum i/o.
saintjules
Member
I was actually wondering if it's beneficial to get the pulse 3D headset since I already have the gold Wireless one. I normally use home theater (AVR), but I have been growing to the thought of using the headset for the AAA gaming experience more.
Has there been any real differences or a major reason to get the Pulse set?
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MasterCornholio
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Rick Dangerous
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1 ticket please for the hype train !
The wait is crushing...
The wait is crushing...
JonnyMP3
Member
But that answers the tech dead end, how? If you're going to add acced hardware, which it already includes. Then architecture has already changed. And will continue to keep changing. A new API isn't going to stop PHYSICAL LIMITS.
Red_Driver85
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Who knows? But that's another story.
JonnyMP3
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Welcome to the whole "Imagine the potential scenario"
I'm sure that AMD, Intel, Nvidia as well as ARM are looking into that possible story even more than I am. That's the reason for billions of research.
But welcome to the whole point I've been trying to get at from the start...
What IS the next story in computer technology??
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
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