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MaxB

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lol this is a funny take.

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when you live in an alternate reality of white supremacy which is somehow against white people and they are the most fucked and society is against them even though it does their bidding.

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What she is saying is that white people are on a downward trajectory of their own doing. Their culture and society is inherently retrograde, insular and stratifying, resulting in a high quality of life that is countered by a poorly knitted social fabric.

She is saying black people have nothing lose because they don’t, occupying the bottom rung of American society by design, emancipated from centuries of genocidal labor into Reconstruction that turned into Jim Crow, which was putatively turned over by the passage of civil rights legislation that only concealed the systemic racism and made the apartheid in which they lived an accepted facet of our society. So, acknowledging that, they do feel as if they don’t have mich to lose. It is why there are far less suicides in the black community, far less despondency than what’s seen in white communities razed by neoliberal policy. Whites have far more to lose, but have chosen, as she notes, cultural mechanisms that keep them from correcting what is actively harming their community. They would rather be “white,” as in the dominant race, than right, a contributing partner in the fight for an equal and just society.

Whites are a minority and their numbers are dwindling. Right now, there are far more black people on this planet than whites. More Asians on this planet than whites. By 2050, blacks and Asians are projected to add over a billion more to their numbers, while whites are projected to become majority minorities in major nations like ours.

That is what she was getting at with that statement. Whites are basically committing suicide all in the name of white supremacy, ironic as that is. Bernie would have helped stave it off, but a President for the actual people is too much, I guess.
 
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Nester99

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What she is saying is that white people are on a downward trajectory of their own doing. Their culture and society is inherently retrograde, insular and stratifying, resulting in a high quality of life that is countered by a poorly knitted social fabric.

She is saying black people have nothing lose because they don’t, occupying the bottom rung of American society by design, emancipated from centuries of genocidal labor into Reconstruction that turned into Jim Crow, which was putatively turned over by the passage of civil rights legislation that only concealed the systemic racism and made the apartheid in which they lived an accepted facet of our society. So, acknowledging that, they do feel as if they don’t have mich to lose. It is why there are far less suicides in the black community, far less despondency than what’s seen in white communities razed by neoliberal policy. Whites have far more to lose, but have chosen, as she notes, cultural mechanisms that keep them from correcting what is actively harming their community. They would rather be “white,” as in the dominant race, than right, a contributing partner in the fight for an equal and just society.

Whites are a minority and their numbers are dwindling. Right now, there are far more black people on this planet than whites. More Asians on this planet than whites. By 2050, blacks and Asians are projected to add over a billion more to their numbers, while whites are projected to become majority minorities in major nations like ours.

That is what she was getting at with that statement. Whites are basically committing suicide all in the name of white supremacy, ironic as that is. Bernie would have helped stave it off, but a President for the actual people is too much, I guess.

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nush

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It isn't surprising, but it's always perplexing in a way. It feels like someone role playing and yet this is a prominent figure of that community. Like holy fuck.

The tone of her Twitter is totally different.

Furries are all about hiding who you are and being something else.

She was a diversity mod hire becuse she was black, which after prolonged DTS has made herself into a military black woman act. Take away her mod status and she'd get clapped back on so hard.

Her grovelling in the trans uprising was hilarious.
 
The tone of her Twitter is totally different.

Furries are all about hiding who you are and being something else.

She was a diversity mod hire becuse she was black, which after prolonged DTS has made herself into a military black woman act. Take away her mod status and she'd get clapped back on so hard.

Her grovelling in the trans uprising was hilarious.

No wonder sane people are fleeing. If they're not banned, they have to deal with that troglodyte imbecile being a notorious member, like a voice to be heard. It's one thing to have furry captain there saying insane shit as if it was someone mocking a person that went WAY off the racial tensions deep end, it's another thing to have a group of people saying "great point Nepenthe!".
 
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Deleted member 17706

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What she is saying is that white people are on a downward trajectory of their own doing. Their culture and society is inherently retrograde, insular and stratifying, resulting in a high quality of life that is countered by a poorly knitted social fabric.

She is saying black people have nothing lose because they don’t, occupying the bottom rung of American society by design, emancipated from centuries of genocidal labor into Reconstruction that turned into Jim Crow, which was putatively turned over by the passage of civil rights legislation that only concealed the systemic racism and made the apartheid in which they lived an accepted facet of our society. So, acknowledging that, they do feel as if they don’t have mich to lose. It is why there are far less suicides in the black community, far less despondency than what’s seen in white communities razed by neoliberal policy. Whites have far more to lose, but have chosen, as she notes, cultural mechanisms that keep them from correcting what is actively harming their community. They would rather be “white,” as in the dominant race, than right, a contributing partner in the fight for an equal and just society.

Whites are a minority and their numbers are dwindling. Right now, there are far more black people on this planet than whites. More Asians on this planet than whites. By 2050, blacks and Asians are projected to add over a billion more to their numbers, while whites are projected to become majority minorities in major nations like ours.

That is what she was getting at with that statement. Whites are basically committing suicide all in the name of white supremacy, ironic as that is. Bernie would have helped stave it off, but a President for the actual people is too much, I guess.

This is some hot nonsense right here. Do you think “Asians” or “Blacks” view themselves as some kind of cohesive entity on a global scale? That would be painfully ignorant if so. The world does not mirror the identity politics of America.
 
What she is saying is that white people are on a downward trajectory of their own doing. Their culture and society is inherently retrograde, insular and stratifying, resulting in a high quality of life that is countered by a poorly knitted social fabric.

She is saying black people have nothing lose because they don’t, occupying the bottom rung of American society by design, emancipated from centuries of genocidal labor into Reconstruction that turned into Jim Crow, which was putatively turned over by the passage of civil rights legislation that only concealed the systemic racism and made the apartheid in which they lived an accepted facet of our society. So, acknowledging that, they do feel as if they don’t have mich to lose. It is why there are far less suicides in the black community, far less despondency than what’s seen in white communities razed by neoliberal policy. Whites have far more to lose, but have chosen, as she notes, cultural mechanisms that keep them from correcting what is actively harming their community. They would rather be “white,” as in the dominant race, than right, a contributing partner in the fight for an equal and just society.

Whites are a minority and their numbers are dwindling. Right now, there are far more black people on this planet than whites. More Asians on this planet than whites. By 2050, blacks and Asians are projected to add over a billion more to their numbers, while whites are projected to become majority minorities in major nations like ours.

That is what she was getting at with that statement. Whites are basically committing suicide all in the name of white supremacy, ironic as that is. Bernie would have helped stave it off, but a President for the actual people is too much, I guess.

Wow
Can you resume your argument in a sentence or do you have to drown us in word so we can make sense of it somewhere in your paragraph?
 

cormack12

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Hmmmm, so white people have the most to lose, but are insulated by white supremacy and do not have as much to lose. Meanwhile black people have almost nothing to lose, but it's not fair to expect them to vote because they have so much to lose. This is why you had to hang up your mod hat Fireworker. How dare you make posts based on

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MaxB

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This is some hot nonsense right here. Do you think “Asians” or “Blacks” view themselves as some kind of cohesive entity on a global scale? That would be painfully ignorant if so. The world does not mirror the identity politics of America.

Don't know about Asians, but pan Africanism is real, and the diaspora of black people that spans the globe is recognized by the majority. There is a shared kinship, living under the boot of white supremacy, that black people from all walks of life - African Americans, Brazillians, Ethiopians, Nigerians, Haitians, et. al. - recognize. There is certainly tribalism between the two, especially now, as we witness African Americans pushing for reparations that won't benefit black immigrants who might harbor some resentment because of that exclusion. I think Asians are more fragmented, but they also have a shared understanding of how white people view them, which informs their navigation of Western society.

Anyway, my point is, she is correct about how white people are shooting themselves in the foot and voting against their interests in the preservation of a dominance that's dwindling. It doesn't make sense, but when has racism ever been logical?
 

Ionian

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Hmmmm, so white people have the most to lose, but are insulated by white supremacy and do not have as much to lose. Meanwhile black people have almost nothing to lose, but it's not fair to expect them to vote because they have so much to lose. This is why you had to hang up your mod hat Fireworker. How dare you make posts based on

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Two users that can't help themselves but write a mini-novel every post.

Nepenthe really should talk about how they have been discriminated against rather than just attacking all people of white skin.

Maybe someone may actually listen then.
 

ViolentP

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I'm Cuban. My entire family is Cuban. They emigrated to this country with nothing, yet here we are, two successful (though divorced) parents who raised 3 successful children. Not once in my life did I ever hear anyone in my family attest their success to anyone else, nor express oppression from anyone else. We opted to be engaged, become educated, and work hard for ourselves and our own. That's it.
 

#Phonepunk#

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I think he has some good points. I just don’t see how voting for any of the white candidates who will uphold white power structures is “suicide”.

IMO there is a lot of projection going around thinking that woke media is anti white, thus society is, when in reality even the “radical” things like Black Panther are wholly in favor of white hegemony. The idea of white culture in decline is a tantalizing fantasy you can use to excuse your consumption of white corporate media. Which doesn’t seem to be in danger of being supplanted by an alternative any time soon.

Also I heard the “demographics are a thing, white people are over” talk in 2016. Guess what, white people are still in the majority and they still vote.
 
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TrainedRage

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Don't know about Asians, but pan Africanism is real, and the diaspora of black people that spans the globe is recognized by the majority. There is a shared kinship, living under the boot of white supremacy, that black people from all walks of life - African Americans, Brazillians, Ethiopians, Nigerians, Haitians, et. al. - recognize. There is certainly tribalism between the two, especially now, as we witness African Americans pushing for reparations that won't benefit black immigrants who might harbor some resentment because of that exclusion. I think Asians are more fragmented, but they also have a shared understanding of how white people view them, which informs their navigation of Western society.

Anyway, my point is, she is correct about how white people are shooting themselves in the foot and voting against their interests in the preservation of a dominance that's dwindling. It doesn't make sense, but when has racism ever been logical?
Im glad you are here to speak for all the black people out there! I mean they are so helpless and burdened they need strong allies like you to fight for them. Well done! You are very brave.
 
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Don't know about Asians, but pan Africanism is real, and the diaspora of black people that spans the globe is recognized by the majority. There is a shared kinship, living under the boot of white supremacy, that black people from all walks of life - African Americans, Brazillians, Ethiopians, Nigerians, Haitians, et. al. - recognize. There is certainly tribalism between the two, especially now, as we witness African Americans pushing for reparations that won't benefit black immigrants who might harbor some resentment because of that exclusion. I think Asians are more fragmented, but they also have a shared understanding of how white people view them, which informs their navigation of Western society.

Anyway, my point is, she is correct about how white people are shooting themselves in the foot and voting against their interests in the preservation of a dominance that's dwindling. It doesn't make sense, but when has racism ever been logical?

I can't prove you wrong anymore than you can prove yourself right, I suppose, but I don't think this is true to any significant degree. Haitians and black Americans (US-native blacks) have historically been at odds with each other. It's not like Haitians have any love for Africans, either. You often see Nigerian (to pick a random African country) immigrants and their first or second generation children not finding common cause with multi-generational native-blacks, either. And this is just in America. Many African countries have ethnic conflict as you quaintly described as "tribalism." I don't mean to imply that this is something limited to African countries or that it affects all of them to a great degree of course. I'm just not seeing this "shared kinship under the boot of white supremacy" thing you're describing. Certainly not on a global scale at least and not even within the United States or other western countries.

Finally, maybe don't presume to know what a person's interests are?

No, I'm Vietnamese.

Wait... what the hell? You don't even know about Pan-Asianism and yet claim to speak for black diaspora across the globe?
 
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Lady Bird

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I'm just not seeing this "shared kinship under the boot of white supremacy" thing you're describing.
Seems to be a SJW wish dream to me.

My job is to transcribe and proof read texts from interviewed african people from certain countries, and out of the 40+ transcriptions I've worked so far, there has been zero mentions of white supremacism or any other contemporary western concept from those people. All and every political commentary is directed towards their own government, their politicians and their nation-specific issues, like lack of infrastructures, internal corruption, unemployment, etc. Most outside influence comes from brazillian or portuguese tv channels, although not exclusive to that. Otherwise, their daily lives and worries are pretty much the same as your average european or american person, I guess. Children, family, school, friends, tradition, music, sports, job opportunities, a desire to build towards a better future, and so on.

There's only so much I know from a few dozen interviews, but "white supremacy" doesn't even seems to be a thing there. Which makes sense, as the majority has black skin. At most, there's some words on colonialism.
 
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Alternatively, you could reciprocate the same amount of time and effort that M MaxB out into his post in order to positively raise the level of discourse and cite your own analysis and counter examples.

If your ideas are better, demonstrate it.

Are we a marketplace of ideas?!
 

TheStruggler

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Hope everyone is having as good a morning as this guy!

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I mean but isnt that voting in a nutshell? People vote for who they want and feel who represents their means and lifestyle with what types of policies they support etc. Thats how a democracy works, not voting a certain way because we need a certain someone to get elected because you like them. If you dont want democracy move to a dictatorship country where they will put a gun to you head to vote their way then.
 

ULTROS!

People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
I'm Cuban. My entire family is Cuban. They emigrated to this country with nothing, yet here we are, two successful (though divorced) parents who raised 3 successful children. Not once in my life did I ever hear anyone in my family attest their success to anyone else, nor express oppression from anyone else. We opted to be engaged, become educated, and work hard for ourselves and our own. That's it.

Actions speak louder than words like they say.

Unfortunately Era is all words, specifically keyboard words. :p

lol this is a funny take.


when you live in an alternate reality of white supremacy which is somehow against white people and they are the most fucked and society is against them even though it does their bidding.

:pie_thinking:

Nepenthe should consider migrating to like I dunno, an Asian or African country.
 
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benjipwns

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Nepenthe is so obsessed with Lucio I'm surprised she doesn't want to move to Brazil. Or at least doesn't post about it more often enough for me to notice.
 

nush

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You know, somewhere in that whole car loan debacle there probably was a white guy who saw how she was being taken advantage of and tried to speak up, only to be immediately dismissed with a haughty hand wave and a tisk tisk tisk. Deep down she knows this and it burrrrrrrrnnnnnsssss.

She let her step-dad do all the talking as she knows fuck all about life and how to function as a normal person. Begs the question, what happened to her actual dad?
 

Handel

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They talk all the time how poor white people are voting against their own interests when they vote for Trump/Republicans, yet of course we can't criticize African Americans for voting against their own interests, that would be racist!

The war on drugs was and continues to be quite racist/classist, supporting a candidate like Biden who is complicit in the war on drugs is most definitely voting against their best interest.

Signed sincerely,

The Child of Two Poor White Crack Addicts
 

Handel

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It's also perfect that they prove their own hypocrisy whenever a protected group gets criticized. They love to spam the "better things aren't possible" image, yet are wholesale defending people voting for the safe candidate in the Democratic primaries(Biden). They'll defend the status quo when it's black people or women that are backing the status quo.

They also prove the South Park episode about voting right with this shit they pull. Bernie is the candidate they would love to have, but doubt he can get his policies passed even if he beats Trump. Biden is a senile old bastard that has a history of racism and sexism, but he's more willing to compromise and he'd be better than Trump at least! They themselves are acknowledging that this race is between a douche and a turd sandwich, yet apparently South Park did an immeasurable amount of damage towards the enthusiasm of young people to vote.

The only ones who are doing that are the political parties and the cowards in each who are scared to move away from the status quo. That expose their corruption on a constant basis by tampering with elections.

The cherry on the top is that these REEtards as usual get so worked up at everything that they miss or can't comprehend the actual message of the episode: yes it's a shitty system, but it's the one we have right now and all we can do is try to make the best of in the moment. Do your duty and vote.
 
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Kenpachii

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What she is saying is that white people are on a downward trajectory of their own doing. Their culture and society is inherently retrograde, insular and stratifying, resulting in a high quality of life that is countered by a poorly knitted social fabric.

She is saying black people have nothing lose because they don’t, occupying the bottom rung of American society by design, emancipated from centuries of genocidal labor into Reconstruction that turned into Jim Crow, which was putatively turned over by the passage of civil rights legislation that only concealed the systemic racism and made the apartheid in which they lived an accepted facet of our society. So, acknowledging that, they do feel as if they don’t have mich to lose. It is why there are far less suicides in the black community, far less despondency than what’s seen in white communities razed by neoliberal policy. Whites have far more to lose, but have chosen, as she notes, cultural mechanisms that keep them from correcting what is actively harming their community. They would rather be “white,” as in the dominant race, than right, a contributing partner in the fight for an equal and just society.

Whites are a minority and their numbers are dwindling. Right now, there are far more black people on this planet than whites. More Asians on this planet than whites. By 2050, blacks and Asians are projected to add over a billion more to their numbers, while whites are projected to become majority minorities in major nations like ours.

That is what she was getting at with that statement. Whites are basically committing suicide all in the name of white supremacy, ironic as that is. Bernie would have helped stave it off, but a President for the actual people is too much, I guess.

White people don't identify themselves as white people. Or think themselves as a community. White poeple consider themselves humans and that's about it.

The whole black vs white thing is a US created concept that does not translate towards anywhere else. This is also why when the US projects there culture on other country's and people are straight up reacting with ?????????

I honestly didn't even knew about racisme or this huge me vs them concept until i joined the internet and started scrolling american websites.
 
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