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Between DLC and almost no sales/price drops, Nintendo games sure are getting even more expensive
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Werewolf Jones
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It's why I don't wanna support Nintendo anymore.
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Deleted member 774430
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Pokémon is not a great example imo, cause before it was.
Sun and Moon - $40 (that's the standard full price for any 3DS release)
Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon (base game with just a bunch of added contents) - $40
If they did the same this time, you would have paid $120 to play both Sword or Shield and its expansions.
I wish Atlus starts to do the same honestly, sorry i'm not going pay 60 bucks for Persona 5 Royal which is literally the same case as Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon.
Sun and Moon - $40 (that's the standard full price for any 3DS release)
Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon (base game with just a bunch of added contents) - $40
If they did the same this time, you would have paid $120 to play both Sword or Shield and its expansions.
I wish Atlus starts to do the same honestly, sorry i'm not going pay 60 bucks for Persona 5 Royal which is literally the same case as Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon.
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Griffon
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Iwata was warning other companies against game devaluation. We used to pay a lot more for smaller SNES games than we do now for big modern games. But the whole indie and online store rush to the bottom fucked up a lot of things.
Most big AAA can handle that fine, but smaller developers are fucked because everyone expects 90% sales and not enough volume to justify that.
Most big AAA can handle that fine, but smaller developers are fucked because everyone expects 90% sales and not enough volume to justify that.
majestix1988
Member
They have more content than a American or Western game publishers
jts
...hate me...
Actually, even first party Nintendo games go on sale often on the eShop. Even BoTW has been at least 3-4 times on sale IIRC.
The thing is, they are never that steep (30% at best) and they are never permanent. That and the fact that some of the games are ports is what leads to this general perception.
The thing is, they are never that steep (30% at best) and they are never permanent. That and the fact that some of the games are ports is what leads to this general perception.
Kazza
Member
Ding.
If you have games that can maintain mass interest for years at full price + occasional sales, why would you cut the price? Or even set that expectation?
Smart business, and it’s clearly paying off for them. When your top 4 alone, look like this...
...and sold for full price, why change anything?
Customers that don’t like this will have to accept that they’re a tiny minority, and either choose not to do business with Nintendo, or deal with the apparent horror of $40 - $60 prices for great - excellent games that deliver a compete, polished experience out of the box.
The other three I can understand being new games and all, but selling Wii U ports such as Mario Kart at full price is just outrageous! Wasn't Tropical Freeze also sold for full price? They could have at least have done a Country Returns/Tropical Freeze double pack, just as Super Mario U should have been bundled with the Wii version. That said, if Nintendo fans are willing to pay full price for old ports (and the sales figure suggest that they are), then why wouldn't Nintendo continue to sell them at full price? It makes me kinda happy that I'm not a huge Nintendo first party fan.
I got mine in 2016. The games are (were?) cheap as well, even first party titles. Both Mario Galaxy games were under £10, although I'm sure Nintendo will sell them for £40-£50 each on the Switch at some point!
jufonuk
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Obviously it is because Nintendo are of such quality. Their games are higher priced. Being such a man of means I am willing to pa ... nah fuck that bruv, I want cheaper games. Yes they have been doing some eshop sales but too few and far between I too recently for my liking.
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yall can complain about nintendo fans but the hard truth is that if anyone could do what nintendo does consistently then they would. where are all the zelda clones? darksiders is that it? is it that hard to make a damn go cart game? there are some good indie platformers but microsoft and sony dont care to try on that front. sony utterly failed and gave up when their smash clone flopped. if they were directly competing with sony and microsoft theyd have to discount heavily, but they arent.
yall need to drop this nintendo fans BS, if their games were crap no one would care if they charged full price but yall so salty they dont deep discount you got that nintendo fever bad. show me the major game publisher that isnt trying to make the most money, this is business. guess that makes me a corporate bootlicking shill mega super nintendo fan for seeing what sees super obvious
yall need to drop this nintendo fans BS, if their games were crap no one would care if they charged full price but yall so salty they dont deep discount you got that nintendo fever bad. show me the major game publisher that isnt trying to make the most money, this is business. guess that makes me a corporate bootlicking shill mega super nintendo fan for seeing what sees super obvious
VertigoOA
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I almost forgot about amiibo. The worst and most overpriced implementation of DLC ever.
But that shelf of stationary action figures that cost you over 1,000$ On ebay surely doing you a great job of getting you pussy... or asshole . Whatever it is that you like I guess.
But that shelf of stationary action figures that cost you over 1,000$ On ebay surely doing you a great job of getting you pussy... or asshole . Whatever it is that you like I guess.
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One reason for this is NOA/NOE management are evaluated on revenue generated alone.
There is no incentive for them to push for lowering the prices.
Ultimately Nintendo's install base suffers for this if the masses can't/won't pay those prices.
Also, I understand that the middle-class in Japan has remained steady for the last 30 years, and salaries have risen with inflation and the cost of living, despite changes in the overall economy.
So I don't think Nintendo understands the economic situation in the West, and that discounted game prices are critical to getting a 100+ million install base like the PS4.
But I don;t understand why they don't take the same approach to Switch prices like they did with the 3DS.
A lot of 3DS games regularly got permanent price cuts of 25% off on game prices fairly early on after a games was released.
There is no incentive for them to push for lowering the prices.
Ultimately Nintendo's install base suffers for this if the masses can't/won't pay those prices.
Also, I understand that the middle-class in Japan has remained steady for the last 30 years, and salaries have risen with inflation and the cost of living, despite changes in the overall economy.
So I don't think Nintendo understands the economic situation in the West, and that discounted game prices are critical to getting a 100+ million install base like the PS4.
But I don;t understand why they don't take the same approach to Switch prices like they did with the 3DS.
A lot of 3DS games regularly got permanent price cuts of 25% off on game prices fairly early on after a games was released.
ShinNL
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The fighting community has no business to complain. SFV is the good kind with options to unlock DLCs without paying with play to unlock (like the good old days), or pay to save time. But oh boy if I complain that I feel that my Dragon Ball FighterZ cartridge is garbage without it's DLCs and that every fighting game should have SFV's transaction model. "I guess you don't want to support the devs' and 'The game was perfectly fine before DLCs'. No shit, I'm protecting my wallet and having incomplete versions suck, but I'm still not paying more than 100% of the original game just to unlock 12 characters, which is clearly less work than the work put in the entire original game.
If Nintendo fans enjoying their €90 games are "step on me with your heels" masochists, the fighting game community are "please pinch my nipples while I'm blindfolded and hanging upside down with rope bondage" masochists.
VertigoOA
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I don’t hate on SFV’s model at ALL. Sure beats buying a new version of SF2 every six months at 75$ for a balance update.
Although it would’ve been better if it was f2p with the original 8 world warriors and had their dlc and fight money approach from there. Haven’t spent a dime on SFV post launch.
Although it would’ve been better if it was f2p with the original 8 world warriors and had their dlc and fight money approach from there. Haven’t spent a dime on SFV post launch.
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EightBit Man
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Nintendo games were always expensive; see the Nintendo 64-era for example. They know they have a very loyal audience, and they take full advantage of them. I used to be a part of that loyal audience for decades, but I am done with this one hell of a greedy corporation.
Bonfires Down
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I could live with paying $60 for the big Nintendo games. But $60/game + 400€ for shitty hardware. Naaaaah.
Shifty1897
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Honestly if the value proposition is a turn off why the hell are you buying DLC for anything?
DLC is literally designed to make diehard fans spend more money for less content. It is never a better value proposition than the base game. Not to say all DLC is bad, I definitely bought all the Witcher expansions and loved every second, but I was a fan, and was willing to spend more money for a little more of the game.
DLC is literally designed to make diehard fans spend more money for less content. It is never a better value proposition than the base game. Not to say all DLC is bad, I definitely bought all the Witcher expansions and loved every second, but I was a fan, and was willing to spend more money for a little more of the game.
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009EspadaSageJay
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Nintendo not having sales is not true that have sales all the time for stuff on the eshop. The reason why Nintendos stuff rarely drops in price is because there games are some of the few out there that still a high produce quality. Almost all of there games have tons of repeatability with tons of stuff to unlock. I haven't bought a Nintendo game yet and felt like i got cheated out of my money even with the pokemon sword and shield situation the game is still a pretty good game alot of improvements have been made over the 3ds games like menus taking forever to load, battle rotations moving at a snails pass ect.
The people who try to downplay Nintendo success or that Nintendo just rely on mario and zelda are fooling themselves nintendo has made tons of new ips from literally the gamecub to switch : Madworld, Last story, Xenobalde, No more heroes, Shinmegai x fire emblem, Project x zone, tatsunoko vs capcom, arms, Octopath, Bravely default, Astral chain, Damon x machina, bayonetta2, viewtuful joe, RE4, muramasa the demon blade, kid icrus uprsing, lugi mansion, Fast racing Rmx, Wonderful 101,. I could go on but you get the point I think that most gamers today dont value gameplay and most nintendo games priorities gameplay over anything else most gamers now a days just want some generic hollywood story and realistic graphics.
The people who try to downplay Nintendo success or that Nintendo just rely on mario and zelda are fooling themselves nintendo has made tons of new ips from literally the gamecub to switch : Madworld, Last story, Xenobalde, No more heroes, Shinmegai x fire emblem, Project x zone, tatsunoko vs capcom, arms, Octopath, Bravely default, Astral chain, Damon x machina, bayonetta2, viewtuful joe, RE4, muramasa the demon blade, kid icrus uprsing, lugi mansion, Fast racing Rmx, Wonderful 101,. I could go on but you get the point I think that most gamers today dont value gameplay and most nintendo games priorities gameplay over anything else most gamers now a days just want some generic hollywood story and realistic graphics.
009EspadaSageJay
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Most of these people complaing about these prices are the same peopole who rushed out to buy broken game brs games like pubg or H1Z1 for $30Ding.
If you have games that can maintain mass interest for years at full price + occasional sales, why would you cut the price? Or even set that expectation?
Smart business, and it’s clearly paying off for them. When your top 4 alone, look like this...
...and sold for full price, why change anything?
Customers that don’t like this will have to accept that they’re a tiny minority, and either choose not to do business with Nintendo, or deal with the apparent horror of $40 - $60 prices for great - excellent games that deliver a compete, polished experience out of the box.
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SLoWMoTIoN
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80 dollars is still less than 120...
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Deleted member 774430
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It's still 80 dollars now but only because they decided to do DLCs and not a rerelease.
If they kept the old model this new edition would have costed 60 again, so that's a sign of The Pokémon Company learning.
Yeah also worth noting that Nintendo alone doesn't have the final say on Pokémon stuff, it's all up to TPC (Nintendo has board seats there of course) and Game Freak
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SLoWMoTIoN
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Dude SS is 60 dollars not 40. You also STILL have exclusive only dlc per game. (not pokemon like in the past) So if you want to experience it all it will cost you around 180 bucks or so.
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Deleted member 774430
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Let me clarify again:
- SS is 60 bucks as all Nintendo's big first party releases
- the Expansion pass is 30 bucks
So you end up spending 90 USD if you want both. (you can save more if you go for the retail, but that's another story)
Previously this is how it used to be:
- mainline game -> full price (it was 40 but because all 3DS games cost 40, otherwise it would have been 60)
- re-release with additional contents a year later -> full price again
if they kept that model it would have been 60+60, instead of 60+30.
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OutrageousFacts
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Nintendo games are the most affordable outside of gamepass. I can buy a Nintendo-game at release for 50 and sell it for 40.
Any other games will drop i price by half or more in a couple weeks or months, thus making day 1 buys a luxury buy.
Any other games will drop i price by half or more in a couple weeks or months, thus making day 1 buys a luxury buy.
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SLoWMoTIoN
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Did you miss the part where the dlc is different depending on the game you bought? Only way to play the content for both is to buy both games and dlc. Previous games had another version yes, but outside the mascot pokemon it wasn't that different between versions. Also the Switch Pokemon games should have never gotten the 60 dollar price tag.
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Deleted member 774430
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Did you miss the part where the dlc is different depending on the game you bought? Only way to play the content for both is to buy both games and dlc. Previous games had another version yes, but outside the mascot pokemon it wasn't that different between versions. Also the Switch Pokemon games should have never gotten the 60 dollar price tag.
How so? you still get both packs with the two new areas regardless of whether you bought Sword or Shield. As for the minor differences like some pokémon being exclusive to one version or the other that is true also to the base game still it has been that way since gen 1.
As for the 60 dollar price tag, if 1-2 Switch is 50 i can't see why Pokémon (arguargbly one of the biggest releases for Nintendo every year) shouldn't be 60.
Pokémon should absolutely be 60 dollars just for the brand alone, i'd argue though at that price you should expect a bigger production value and that's true.
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mistuhcahlos
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I disagree. While this was true with Wii U and 3DS games (still terrible), the Switch has decent sales regularly on games that I actually want (Nintendo games) on the Eshop. A lot of the games I paid full price on were discounted this past holiday season in retail stores. So while DLC prices are still not ideal, I think you can get a decent deal on games if you’re willing to wait a little bit.
Also, the ability to share games with my kids on my account is a game changer for me. I used to buy all the kids the same game (Smash) so they could play together on 3DS. Add DLC and it was ridiculously expensive.
Also, the ability to share games with my kids on my account is a game changer for me. I used to buy all the kids the same game (Smash) so they could play together on 3DS. Add DLC and it was ridiculously expensive.
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sid2vicious
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I used to be a Nintendo fan back in the 80's and 90's, but not anymore, I see them for what they truly are, dicks! People need to get over their rose-tinted nostalgia and stop supporting their crap, or their greed is simply going to get worse and worse. People talk about morality over piracy and whatnot. lets talk about Nintendo's morality, they attack youtubers for showing their content and basically giving them free marketing and publicity, they attack emulation sites who sole purpose is to conserve games for true nostalgia. They refuse to release games on any other platforms except mobile which sole purpose is to suck you dry, they increase their game prices, they embrace dlc, they charge you for shitty online, and rotate classic games instead of being link to your account, no backwards compatibility, no transferable virtual console or eshop games, multiple console refresh or upgrades within one generation cycle, early system demise in preparation for a new one, under-powered console deliberately so you can pay more for outdated tech. Need I go on? Every anti-consumer tactic imaginable, and people still support their shit! 
Zog
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I used to be a Nintendo fan back in the 80's and 90's, but not anymore, I see them for what they truly are, dicks! People need to get over their rose-tinted nostalgia and stop supporting their crap, or their greed is simply going to get worse and worse. People talk about morality over piracy and whatnot. lets talk about Nintendo's morality, they attack youtubers for showing their content and basically giving them free marketing and publicity, they attack emulation sites who sole purpose is to conserve games for true nostalgia. They refuse to release games on any other platforms except mobile which sole purpose is to suck you dry, they increase their game prices, they embrace dlc, they charge you for shitty online, and rotate classic games instead of being link to your account, no backwards compatibility, no transferable virtual console or eshop games, multiple console refresh or upgrades within one generation cycle, early system demise in preparation for a new one, under-powered console deliberately so you can pay more for outdated tech. Need I go on? Every anti-consumer tactic imaginable, and people still support their shit!
Nintendo is as greedy (or worse) than the other companies but gets a free pass. That needs to stop. The missing link to why Nintendo game prices never drop is that their fans defend it.
MagnesG
Banned
From what I see all these people complaining are still not gonna buy the games even with discounts 
Maybe it's worth mocking other people just because they can't comprehend what other people valued in those products?
Pro controller? Amiibo? Why not stop these gaming hobbies altogether for all companies are the same, they just want your money even with different kind of business strategies. Just dumb consumers all around.
There's a reason why Nintendo can still preserve their IP values 20-30 years later.
Maybe it's worth mocking other people just because they can't comprehend what other people valued in those products?
Pro controller? Amiibo? Why not stop these gaming hobbies altogether for all companies are the same, they just want your money even with different kind of business strategies. Just dumb consumers all around.
There's a reason why Nintendo can still preserve their IP values 20-30 years later.
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Golgo 13
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newtypepilot
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Nintendo has always operated like a toy company instead of a video game company. From intentionally limited supply to overpriced accessories, their strategy has always been to gouge its fanbase because they know their main draw is their first party titles. They don't need to offer discounts when people just can't resist buying whatever mario, zelda, or pokemon.
This is the company that sells $100 cardboard as a gaming gimmick. Fucking cardboard
This is the company that sells $100 cardboard as a gaming gimmick. Fucking cardboard
OutrageousFacts
Banned
I used to be a Nintendo fan back in the 80's and 90's, but not anymore, I see them for what they truly are, dicks! People need to get over their rose-tinted nostalgia and stop supporting their crap, or their greed is simply going to get worse and worse. People talk about morality over piracy and whatnot. lets talk about Nintendo's morality, they attack youtubers for showing their content and basically giving them free marketing and publicity, they attack emulation sites who sole purpose is to conserve games for true nostalgia. They refuse to release games on any other platforms except mobile which sole purpose is to suck you dry, they increase their game prices, they embrace dlc, they charge you for shitty online, and rotate classic games instead of being link to your account, no backwards compatibility, no transferable virtual console or eshop games, multiple console refresh or upgrades within one generation cycle, early system demise in preparation for a new one, under-powered console deliberately so you can pay more for outdated tech. Need I go on? Every anti-consumer tactic imaginable, and people still support their shit!
What a dumb posting. "They refuse to release games on other platforms!!1"
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
Not all but most people anger towards Nintendo is all about graphics, graphics and more graphics. The reason they want Nintendo release on other platforms so they can have better graphics.What a dumb posting. "They refuse to release games on other platforms!!1"
I mean in NeoGAF 80% of topics it about graphics like ray tracing and other crap more than actual games.
OutrageousFacts
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Hence why I used to make many threads about other, imo more Interesting stuff - but my thread making privilege was removed for unknown reasons
jts
...hate me...
Nah, people just want to play Nintendo games without having to buy a Nintendo console. It’s just glorified port begging.
jts
...hate me...
You probably missed the part where that cardboard comes with software bundled in. Not only games but also developing tools. But software should be developed and given out for free right??
Also no Labo set was ever priced $100.
V4skunk
Banned
You are deluded. Nintendo games hold their value used.
DESTROYA
Member
Sorry this has nothing to do with the thread but just some conservative criticism, while you do have great passion for Nintendo and video games in general it’s the way you go about it that maybe off putting to some people.Hence why I used to make many threads about other, imo more Interesting stuff - but my thread making privilege was removed for unknown reasons
You can be a better person with a better attitude.
As for the thread if people want cheaper games just buy used, I know this isn’t the best way to go about it but you can get some pretty good deals if you have some patience and don’t need a game on day 1.
Personally besides launch titles that I bought I don’t think I paid full price for any Nintendo game last year.
Punished Miku
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we got a winner here boys. so much hate posted here recently, almost makes you wish for the old days when obvious trolls would be banned. if you dont like a product or a port....just dont buy it! if you think nintendo products are too expensive then go buy something else, actions speak louder than words
Vawn
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Nintendo is always the most expensive place to game, while on the weakest hardware. That's just how it is. Accept that inevitably or play somewhere else.
There's many reasons for that, but mostly the fact that it doesn't really have a direct competitor like PlayStation has with Xbox and even PC.
Nintendo has a mostly separate demographic and nobody is giving them any real competition.
There's many reasons for that, but mostly the fact that it doesn't really have a direct competitor like PlayStation has with Xbox and even PC.
Nintendo has a mostly separate demographic and nobody is giving them any real competition.
40+40+10(pokebank 2 years)= 90
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60+30+20(online)+10(pokebank 2 years)=120
and the resell value should hold up better on the earlier ones since thats the complete editions compared to incomplete one.
Value sure is getting lower, and we also lose nods and references, rebalancing and another hype cycle, still early to tell how good the expansion is gonna get, but how barebones the description were compared to torna for xenoblade 2, it's prob like botw quality sadly(how does it even get balanced?).