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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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So they haven't shown a pre rendered "in engine" demo running at 24 FPS with no gameplay at all. Thank f for that.

Give me the godfall 1 second gameplay gif any day over that thank you.

And negativity just comes from xbots and people lapping up the cool aid, you know the easily lead pessimists that think power has any relevance this gen.

A logo reveal has created far more buzz in the real world than all leaks and reveals have for project scarlet combined.

Don't confuse gaming websites with the rest of the world

Stop fanboying; there's no reason to get this damn heated over a console, buddy.
 

Reindeer

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So they haven't shown a pre rendered "in engine" demo running at 24 FPS with no gameplay at all. Thank f for that.

Give me the godfall 1 second gameplay gif any day over that thank you.

And negativity just comes from xbots and people lapping up the cool aid, you know the easily lead pessimists that think power has any relevance this gen.

A logo reveal has created far more buzz in the real world than all leaks and reveals have for project scarlet combined.

Don't confuse gaming websites with the rest of the world

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01011001

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So they haven't shown a pre rendered "in engine" demo running at 24 FPS with no gameplay at all. Thank f for that.

Give me the godfall 1 second gameplay gif any day over that thank you.

And negativity just comes from xbots and people lapping up the cool aid, you know the easily lead pessimists that think power has any relevance this gen.

A logo reveal has created far more buzz in the real world than all leaks and reveals have for project scarlet combined.

Don't confuse gaming websites with the rest of the world

lol yeah, Godfall a looter-slasher game that is most likely a timed exclusive and is developed by a team that previously only released a small card based F2P strategy game...
and now imagine if the super unlikely happens and the Series X actually can play PC games "leak" is true :messenger_tears_of_joy: and therefore Godfall would be playable on it...
 
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Reindeer

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lol yeah, Godfall a looter-slasher game that is most likely a timed exclusive and is developed by a team that previously only released a small card based F2P strategy game...
and now imagine if the super unlikely happens and the Series X actually can play PC games "leak" is true :messenger_tears_of_joy: and therefore Godfall would be playable on it...
Jez Corden of Windows Central said it ain't happening.
 

01011001

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Jez Corden of Windows Central said it ain't happening.

I know but I just want to see fanboys burn :messenger_tears_of_joy: I want all the outrageous shit to be true lol, not only because of the fanboy fallout that would follow but also because the console business became stale in recent years, only Nintendo occasionally stirs things up
 

Tenka Musou

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Tales from my ass:

SpecPS5Xbox Series X
CPU8C/16T based on Ryzen 4800H mobile CPU - 1.6Ghz/3.2Ghz8C/16T based on Ryzen 4800H mobile CPU - 1.8Ghz/3.5Ghz
GPU12.4TF RDNA with hw accelerated RayTracing12.1TF RDNA with hw accelerated RayTracing
Storage1TB NVMe SSD 5,000 MB/s1TB NVMe SSD 2,200 MB/s
Same person?:
 

ethomaz

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lol yeah, Godfall a looter-slasher game that is most likely a timed exclusive and is developed by a team that previously only released a small card based F2P strategy game...
and now imagine if the super unlikely happens and the Series X actually can play PC games "leak" is true :messenger_tears_of_joy: and therefore Godfall would be playable on it...
The leak about playing PC games is absolutely fake.
 

joe_zazen

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My point is that if you play a game then your are playing a game. You can have all horesepower you want, you can have photoreal graphics its still a game. Saying that old hardware is a barrier for innovation and progress is just wrong.

Also: I read on a previous page that "better" AI will only be possible with stronger hardware. Well yes but how realistic can AI become without deep learning or reinforcement learning. Pushing how much AI is seen on the screen or how "photoreal" a game is looking will not make it a better or more imersive expierence if the game is just badly designed.

i get what you are saying. A great gaming experience can be had on a DS or a ps2 or a 486 computer with a 640x480 vga monitor. Just like a great reading experience doesn't require a book to be leatherbound with 40oz paper.

Still, I’d rather play Mario Odyssey than a Donkey Kong cabinet from 1981.
 
You absolute snowflake.

It's nothing to do with fanboyism. I prefer to see gameplay over a pre rendered aka not real time cutscene.

I don't think godfall looked better I just prefer to see gameplay.

Snowflake? Now you're trying to make it political like an idiot. You're the one throwing around fanboy-esque labels in your previous post, you wouldn't be doing that unless you were triggered in some way.

If that's the point you wanted to make, you could've worded it like an adult, but you stealthed that into a comment a fanboy would make. If it was really about you preferring in-game gameplay over pre-rendered footage, why didn't you just say that!? There was no reason to start shitting on Xbox in that post, or do you think having a preference while having some type of maturity are mutually exclusive things?

I called it for what it was, and I'd do the same if it was an Xbox fanboy "supposedly" stating a preference while shitting on PlayStation. Don't take it personally.

Same person?:

Insane already mentioned these were his own guesses/speculation. Willing to ponder at least some of these are probably close to being true though.
 
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Hi guys I am new here. Thanks mods for letting me join...I am surprised Ms is going to no exclusive route for a couple of years...Last gen sales are going to crater like last gen quickly when a new gen drops. First Mistake one of the manufacturers have made. People online think Install base - Guaranteed sales. I remind you 360 and PS3 sales tanked as soon as ps4 and X1 launched...Install base is not linear.
 
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So... within the first 2 years... how many games do you expect to truly be pushing the system? If Series X versions of games release and they look a whole lot better than Xbox One versions, and look nearly the same level as PS5 games... who cares?

That's a valid question. I guess we will find out once the games are shown.

But my opinion is that yes, we will see PS5 exclusive games early that show the advantage of pushing the system without being anchored by old system. And I have a feeling Sony is going to be VERY LOUD about it letting their devs talk about it in interviews and press releases.

Playstation youtube channel and playstation access channel have a very large following and that's where they will tell everyone how their games differ from previous gen. I'm looking forward to Rob's video about how HZD2 or spiderman 2 or Gran Turismo 7 are only possible on PS5. Surely there will be more than those 3 games. It's an advantage for Sony that I feel will be trumpeted over and over early on in next-gen.
 
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lol yeah, Godfall a looter-slasher game that is most likely a timed exclusive and is developed by a team that previously only released a small card based F2P strategy game...
and now imagine if the super unlikely happens and the Series X actually can play PC games "leak" is true :messenger_tears_of_joy: and therefore Godfall would be playable on it...
It prob is timed but I don't know why anyone believes anything Jez Corden says, he is massively biased and has been wrong and spread mis-information in the past. Dude is a warrior, I have a screen shot of him on socoal media warring over TLOU winning Game of the decade lol.
 
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It prob is timed but I don't know why anyone believes anything Jez Corden says, he is massively biased and has been wrong and spread mis-information in the past. Dude is a warrior, I have a screen shot of him on socoal media warring over TLOU winning Game of the decade lol.
Infamous is still a gorgeous game next gen exclusive that came in the first few months of PS4's life. Game are more then just Scaling some assets and resolution. Building a game with SSD as the baseline and far better CPU allows things like the nemesis system to be made, it was not possible on last gen. Some people are trying desperately to create a narrative that scaling is a magic bullet, scaling like anything has limits.

On top of this expect last gen sales to tank like PS3 and 3560. Ms is indeed making an error here.
 
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Didn’t the mods say there was someone who had info but was only posting it as their “guesses”?????

That could've been anyone between Heisenberg, Insane, Proelite, Shin,...even the likes of TimDog or TommyFisher. Hell, it could be me ;).

Getting vetted just seems to mean your sources/references check out, but that's about it. And if someone's claiming they know stuff but don't want an account (that could be made as a throwaway anyhow, if they don't want to be traced) to be known for it, that really opens the field to just about anybody.
 
Hi guys I am new here. Thanks mods for letting me join...I am surprised Ms is going to no exclusive route for a couple of years...Last gen sales are going to crater like last gen quickly when a new gen drops. First Mistake one of the manufacturers have made. People online think Install base - Guaranteed sales. I remind you 360 and PS3 sales tanked as soon as ps4 and X1 launched...Install base is not linear.

But they have the gamepass subscribers to think about and cater to. MS is really more focused about software and services these days. Their games releasing on PC too will also hurt their xbox sales I feel but MS does not care about unit sales anymore so it doesn't matter to them. They have a different way of measuring success nowadays.
 

TheStruggler

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But they have the gamepass subscribers to think about and cater to. MS is really more focused about software and services these days. Their games releasing on PC too will also hurt their xbox sales I feel but MS does not care about unit sales anymore so it doesn't matter to them. They have a different way of measuring success nowadays.
As much as people praise gamepass its a hack of a service now please dont compare netfliz because movies have no where near the resale value as games. But having gamepass you are giving up your rights as a consumer to own your own software and do with it what you will. Much like netflix or disney plus MS can take a game off whenever they see fit and force you to buy it regardless. Also being Canadian games ares 80 bucks a pop, id rather spend 80 and either keep it or flip it on say kijiji for 65-70 and put that towards a new game in the future. Gamepass is a glorified rental service that takes all the power away from the consumer.
 
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But they have the gamepass subscribers to think about and cater to. MS is really more focused about software and services these days. Their games releasing on PC too will also hurt their xbox sales I feel but MS does not care about unit sales anymore so it doesn't matter to them. They have a different way of measuring success nowadays.
Sure but I am not deating that, it's clear they are not concerned about outselling sony, they know they aren't, they are trying to keep their base, and expand their services.
 
As much as people praise gamepass its a hack of a service now please dont compare netfliz because movies have no where near the resale value as games. But having gamepass you are giving up your rights as a consumer to own your own software and do with it what you will. Much like netflix or disney plus MS can take a game off whenever they see fit and force you to buy it regardless. Also being Canadian games ares 80 bucks a pop, id rather spend 80 and either keep it or flip it on say kijiji for 65-70 and put that towards a new game in the future. Gamepass is a glorified rental service that takes all the power away from the consumer.
I have a one X...gamepass is nice, I only get it when it's on sale a buck, I never would pay full price. It is really just catering to their existing base...Playstation has been around for decades, they worked hard to build their brand globally, its trusted, and you know what you are getting with playstation, lots o great games first and third party.. It's hard to get many in numbers to leave that ecosystem. Gamepass is not the game changer though. it's a subscription service...People say Sony is lucky..total nonsense they know what they are doing in the gaming space more then most of the rest of the company.
 
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While Sony is still determined to sell as many PS5 as possible because their PSN sales are growing while also being able to sell services.

MS doesn't care if you choose PC over xbox as long as they can sell you gamepass.

Sony also has that gameplan in mind but it will come in the form of streaming through PS Now and Sony's plan will be way ahead in the future. For now it will be PS5, PSN and PS plus. In the future PS Now will also play a bigger role while still being focused on PS6 because non-streaming gamers will continue to be in the millions and will remain a large market.
 

TheStruggler

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While Sony is still determined to sell as many PS5 as possible because their PSN sales are growing while also being able to sell services.

MS doesn't care if you choose PC over xbox as long as they can sell you gamepass.

Sony also has that gameplan in mind but it will come in the form of streaming through PS Now and Sony's plan will be way ahead in the future. For now it will be PS5, PSN and PS plus. In the future PS Now will also play a bigger role while still being focused on PS6 because non-streaming gamers will continue to be in the millions and will remain a large market.
Exactly

MS is saying the quiet part loud and the loud part quite

while Sony is saying the loud part quiet and the quiet part loud

Sony knows where the future is going but they are very hush with their direction because they know alot of gamers still wants physical and the old way of how consoles are brought out etc.
 

quest

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MS doesn't care if you choose PC over xbox as long as they can sell you gamepass.
Of course they do they make money on console gamepass and maybe break even on PC plus gold on console. So up to 15 vs 5 dollars a month is a huge difference. At a minimum 10 vs 5 so double the revenue. The PC gamepass is just something to get mau up nothing more subsized by console gamers.
 

Bogroll

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As much as people praise gamepass its a hack of a service now please dont compare netfliz because movies have no where near the resale value as games. But having gamepass you are giving up your rights as a consumer to own your own software and do with it what you will. Much like netflix or disney plus MS can take a game off whenever they see fit and force you to buy it regardless. Also being Canadian games ares 80 bucks a pop, id rather spend 80 and either keep it or flip it on say kijiji for 65-70 and put that towards a new game in the future. Gamepass is a glorified rental service that takes all the power away from the consumer.
You can just buy games you really want and like.
 
The advantage of Sony and MS over Stadia is that they can sell their games as streaming or non-streaming or both.

I will be in the camp of consumer who will buy a $60 game that I can stream but also download if I want to provided I have the console too. Streaming-only like Stadia though. Count me out.
 
Exactly

MS is saying the quiet part loud and the loud part quite

while Sony is saying the loud part quiet and the quiet part loud

Sony knows where the future is going but they are very hush with their direction because they know alot of gamers still wants physical and the old way of how consoles are brought out etc.
Physical box is still...by far the best, biggest way to get your userbase grow, which means subs, more money. PSn is raking in money, More then Xbox and Nintendo combined I think? Someone correct me if that has changed. That is not going away anytime soon. It will eventually, but it's not in an way close , Sony's knows this, it's premature. PS now is just in it's "It's Early" stage. Ms cannot compete head to head so the natural thing is to change direction, gamepass is the beginning. Number of boxes sold will have the biggest userbase again this gen.
 
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johnjohn

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As much as people praise gamepass its a hack of a service now please dont compare netfliz because movies have no where near the resale value as games. But having gamepass you are giving up your rights as a consumer to own your own software and do with it what you will. Much like netflix or disney plus MS can take a game off whenever they see fit and force you to buy it regardless. Also being Canadian games ares 80 bucks a pop, id rather spend 80 and either keep it or flip it on say kijiji for 65-70 and put that towards a new game in the future. Gamepass is a glorified rental service that takes all the power away from the consumer.
Nobody cares about owning media anymore. Games being $80-$100 in Canada makes Game Pass even more attractive.
 
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Pug

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As much as people praise gamepass its a hack of a service now please dont compare netfliz because movies have no where near the resale value as games. But having gamepass you are giving up your rights as a consumer to own your own software and do with it what you will. Much like netflix or disney plus MS can take a game off whenever they see fit and force you to buy it regardless. Also being Canadian games ares 80 bucks a pop, id rather spend 80 and either keep it or flip it on say kijiji for 65-70 and put that towards a new game in the future. Gamepass is a glorified rental service that takes all the power away from the consumer.
I'm not given up any rights. I'm more than happy with the value ganepass offers and I couldn't give a toss about owning games, they have no value to me. Gamepass is giving me the flexibility to play games I would never would at great value, as a consumer I welcome that choice.The fact is even if you owned an Xbox you could follow your way of purchasing games, gamepass does not effect that at all. Gamepass is an additional way accessing games, it gives consumers choice and I welcome that.
 
Sorry but no.

I really think that's where MS is heading. That's an advantage for Sony though in terms of playstation sales and locking down customers to their ecosystem. MS has no control over PC gamers on where they buy their games. They're really betting big on gamepass to bring in the profit.

Sony has nothing to worry about gamepass. They have PS Now and a breath of legacy and exclusive AAA games. Sony will deliver on PS Now when the time is right. But console traditional physical games will continue to be a priority. Millions upon millions of gamers will not abandon console gaming just because of streaming. The two will co-exist.
 

TheStruggler

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I'm not given up any rights. I'm more than happy with the value ganepass offers and I couldn't give a toss about owning games, they have no value to me. Gamepass is giving me the flexibility to play games I would never would at great value, as a consumer I welcome that choice.The fact is even if you owned an Xbox you could follow your way of purchasing games, gamepass does not effect that at all. Gamepass is an additional way accessing games, it gives consumers choice and I welcome that.
You are because you OWN NOTHING, hypothetical if xbox decided they dot care about gamepass anymore and shut it down, tell me how many of those games do you still own....?
 

ANIMAL1975

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Yes. No sources involved whatsoever.
But I remember you was starting to believe in team 9TF (mostly because of that constant R600 preaching i know _ Gonzalo this, PCB that, then came Github and was brainexploding.gif) so what made you change your mind? You must have heard something...

kind of. Mod o war said he thought one of the posters he had a dm exchange with was ‘in the know“ . Most believe it is HeisenbergFX4 HeisenbergFX4 . But as he has never claimed anything, so we dont know. Also, he lives in yakima.
No stop, he lives in Yakima!?
you fu***king with us aren't you? 😂
 
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