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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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nowhat

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IF these specs are legit (and that's a very strong if), I wouldn't expect PS5 to be much more powerful GPU-wise. Probably both are in the same ballpark.

But I think 16GB of RAM is surprisingly little. It may be enough, but a quite minor improvement over X (it will likely be faster though). There's an area for Sony to one-up Microsoft, if they can do a repeat of PS4 and source 24GB of GDDR6 at a reasonable price.
 
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Unless they made a less hungry operation system with I highly doub, they need to put more RAM into Scarlett.
 
bitbydeath

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nowhat said:
IF these specs are legit (and that's a very strong if), I wouldn't expect PS5 to be much more powerful GPU-wise. Probably both are in the same ballpark.

But I think 16GB of RAM is surprisingly little. It may be enough, but a quite minor improvement over X (it will likely be faster though). There's an area for Sony to one-up Microsoft, if they can do a repeat of PS4 and source 24GB of GDDR6 at a reasonable price.
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Even if PS5 is 13TF I doubt there’d be much diff....
Lockhart will be the main separation driver between the two.
 
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Someone in beyond3d posted this pastebin. Correlates with Windows Central post today and shows why ps5 was thought to be a little higher but not as it's a little over 10 and anaconda is 12+ according to this supposed leak, MS bumped it up. Which I believe they would if they believe Sony was higher TF at any point. Grain of salt but I tend to put some stock in this one cause it also correlates today's Windows Central . Pastebin https://pastebin.com/fZLiyLQU. Wc: https://www.windowscentral.com/xbox-scarlett-anaconda-lockhart-specs
 
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FranXico

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nowhat said:
IF these specs are legit (and that's a very strong if), I wouldn't expect PS5 to be much more powerful GPU-wise. Probably both are in the same ballpark.

But I think 16GB of RAM is surprisingly little. It may be enough, but a quite minor improvement over X (it will likely be faster though). There's an area for Sony to one-up Microsoft, if they can do a repeat of PS4 and source 24GB of GDDR6 at a reasonable price.
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I think this leak is intended to make Sony underestimate the Scarlett RAM and make them think 16GB is enough. Microsoft, as cunning and creative as ever, wants to mirror what Sony did last gen
 
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bitbydeath said:
What does a Samsung mobile CPU have to do with next-gen? We already know the CPU is AMD’s Ryzen. Something I’m missing here?
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Nothing. The process decision is the interesting bit. They chose TSMC despite having a Samsung partnership on EUV (rumors about bad performance) and are using TSMCs N7P instead of N7+. They are speculating that TSMC does not have volume capacity for EUV atm.
 
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So potentially PS5 at 10.2TF and Anaconda at 12TF.. I wonder if that could mean Lockhart-$299, PS5-$399 and Anaconda-$499. That would make next-gen very interesting.
 
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44alltheway

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DeepEnigma said:
So lemme get this straight, you call one supposed leak full of shit, but not the other?

I wonder why that is? :pie_thinking:

They are both "grains of salt" until specs come out of the horses mouth.
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I mean, I will say its pretty crazy the Scarlett specs leaked this soon after they were sent out (which was about a week ago) but everything seems to be pointing at PS5 being about 10. Obviously I don't know the answer to this, but feel pretty confident on it.
 
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This whole HW RT affair is pretty amusing to watch. Essentially Nvidua forced Sony and MSFT to demand it from AMD. Even though in its current state it's a crap of technology.
Well played Nvidia. Without thus shit it would silently die as PC only crap, but now it has a chance.
 
bitbydeath

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44alltheway said:
I mean, I will say its pretty crazy the Scarlett specs leaked this soon after they were sent out (which was about a week ago) but everything seems to be pointing at PS5 being about 13. Obviously I don't know the answer to this, but feel pretty confident on it.
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FTFY, if we go by rumours.
 
Gamernyc78

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Sycomunkee said:
or he's completely full of shit and doesn't know anything at all. Has he successfully predicted anything that people didn't already know?

Also, wasn't his prediction for Scarlet less than 10TF? If this latest Windows Central rumor is true, then he's quite a bit off base.
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Which leaker are you doubting?
 
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Gamernyc78

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Sycomunkee said:
or he's completely full of shit and doesn't know anything at all. Has he successfully predicted anything that people didn't already know?

Also, wasn't his prediction for Scarlet less than 10TF? If this latest Windows Central rumor is true, then he's quite a bit off base.
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I know your saying this bcus it doesn't fit your narrative and you'll die if PS5 is more powerful.

The reason ppl on here are happy tht Osiris is back os bcus he's leaked stuff before tht was true. He leaked pspro existence and specs months before we knew and it was true. Also few other things.

I remember the naysayers when ps4og specs were leaked and thy came out to be almost exact as the leaked info.

We take all leakers leaks with caution but some have been more right than others and he has been before.
 
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ResilientBanana

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Gamernyc78 said:
Lol I know u keep pushing leakers are full of shit bcus it doesn't fit your narrative and you'll die if PS5 is stronger.

Ppl are happy Osiris is back bcus he has leaked things right before one of them being ps4pro months in advance and specs.

Boy I remember the ps4 og specs leaking months in advance and all the naysayers and guess what? The specs tht were leaked were almost exact.
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I don't care if the PS5 is stronger, honestly. I have nothing to lose here as I'm going Ampere in my PC. I'm just trying to figure out what I want to do in my Living Room.

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PS4K information (~2x GPU power w/ clock+, new CPU, price, tent. Q1 2017)

Related info from a meeting we had yesterday was waiting for it to be approved before posting. Price is currently $399.99 they were discussing a better CPU which would raise the price to $499.99 we were guaranteed the price will be no higher than $499.99 (He mentioned the CPU upgrade quite a...
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This is OsirisBlack's post from Mar 2016 about the PS4 Pro.
  • It was not a new CPU, it was just up clocked
  • Deep Down never happened
  • No 4K blu-Ray Player
  • 2x GPU was a good guess
  • GPU being smaller and faster align with a lot of Rumors considering they went Polaris instead of GCN.

I'm just saying, take the guys word with a healthy dose of salt.
 
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THE:MILKMAN

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Gamernyc78 said:
I know your saying this bcus it doesn't fit your narrative and you'll die if PS5 is more powerful.

The reason ppl on here are happy tht Osiris is back os bcus he's leaked stuff before tht was true. He leaked pspro existence and specs months before we knew and it was true. Also few other things.

I remember the naysayers when ps4og specs were leaked and thy came out to be almost exact as the leaked info.

We take all leakers leaks with caution but some have been more right than others and he has been before.
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What date?
 
44alltheway

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OsirisBlack said:
I would never, to be specific the FF2400 will be > 10. You can book that, but no one said anything about 12 or even 11. At this point in time I highly doubt they're going to tune in the opposite direction of what is in developers hands.

Edited to add: Only a very few are out which is where I fucked up. So yea.
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In this very same thread, Osiris said he didn't hear anything about 12 or even 11 TF. For Osiris, that would put ps5 at ~10.9, Microsoft around 10. Idk, just doesn't seem like this person should be seen as credible compared to the sources today. This feels like a controlled leak by Microsoft, its coming from a bunch of xbox-centric personalities on social media.
 
bitbydeath

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44alltheway said:
In this very same thread, Osiris said he didn't hear anything about 12 or even 11 TF. For Osiris, that would put ps5 at ~10.9, Microsoft around 10. Idk, just doesn't seem like this person should be seen as credible compared to the sources today. This feels like a controlled leak by Microsoft, its coming from a bunch of xbox-centric personalities on social media.
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Another vague statement of hearing > 10 and not anything else.
 
THE:MILKMAN

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Gamernyc78 said:
The latest post someone made from him was in March of 2016 talking about the pro, in September it was officially unveiled. That's six months in advance. If thts not a convincing leak idk what is.
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Except the Pro/NEO/4.5 was first revealed to be a thing by Kotaku during GDC 2016 two weeks before Osiris' post. Then the NEO docs leaked and were revealed by Giant Bomb. Full and detailed specs showed the real info.
 
Gamernyc78

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THE:MILKMAN said:
Except the Pro/NEO/4.5 was first revealed to be a thing by Kotaku during GDC 2016 two weeks before Osiris' post. Then the NEO docs leaked and were revealed by Giant Bomb. Full and detailed specs showed the real info.
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I'm showing the last quote I saw on this same page. That may not be the first time he alluded or mentioned it not to mention the fact tht it has to go through mods first before it's approved to be shared. Idk what conspiracy theory we are going for here but the consensus is he leaked it first. Did kotaku have some info beforehand maybe but was it the Info he shared and as precise? Did thy give numbers? Idk I'm not going back to compare and contrast.
 
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