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Ghost Recon: Breakpoint |OT| Mo'Drone warfare

sol_bad

Member
I Don't know about Breakpoint but I can assure you that I finished Odyssey and both DLC without buying anything from the in-game store and never felt the need to do so, even on Hard, Odyssey isn't a difficult game and the things you find in-game are more than enough to beat the game without Breaking a sweat. Based on that experience (and AC Origins) I consider that microtransactions in Ubi games to be well done. Now maybe on their other games, they force you somehow to buy stuff but that's certainly not the case in Odyssey or Origins.

Nah, I didn't say that was the case for the AC games. I was comparing AC microtransactions to this games microtransactions. Its increased 10x. And if you sit there accepting it, it will get worse. Ubi's attitude about the user made missions with lots of XP says it all. Trying to push and funnel players towards that double XP purchase rather than offer an easy mode for those who want it.
 

Cranberrys

Member
Nah, I didn't say that was the case for the AC games. I was comparing AC microtransactions to this games microtransactions. Its increased 10x. And if you sit there accepting it, it will get worse. Ubi's attitude about the user made missions with lots of XP says it all. Trying to push and funnel players towards that double XP purchase rather than offer an easy mode for those who want it.

I agree with you but it's a trend, many people buy XP stuff, collectible maps, in-game currency, cosmetics, etc. and since all Ubi games are basically the same stuff with a different skin, I don't think they'll stop, I think their core audience want exactly that and it's part of their DNA now, it's what you expect from a Ubi game : open worlds, millions of stuff to do, in-game store and Ubi Club, rinse and reapeat across the board. Still, I really like both AC and Watch Dogs games.
 

sol_bad

Member
I agree with you but it's a trend, many people buy XP stuff, collectible maps, in-game currency, cosmetics, etc. and since all Ubi games are basically the same stuff with a different skin, I don't think they'll stop, I think their core audience want exactly that and it's part of their DNA now, it's what you expect from a Ubi game : open worlds, millions of stuff to do, in-game store and Ubi Club, rinse and reapeat across the board. Still, I really like both AC and Watch Dogs games.

It's midnight here and I'm too lazy to find the article right now but I'm sure I read something about the whales being a very small portion of the communities that inhabit these games. The majority don't spend, if the majority would boycott there might be changes. Maybe.
 

autoduelist

Member
Update:

Now about 10 or 15 hours in. I like the game a LOT more than i did a couple hours in. I am not really playing the game to advance missions as my first priority. Rather, taking someone else's advice, i turned off guides [so all you have are location hints in missions]. And i try to take on bases i find, even if it doesn't move the plot forward.

So... basically, im playing it like a stealth base attack sim. Very fun.

My biggest complaint currently is the loot system. Upgrading boots and guns every 10 seconds doesn't work. It does in borderlands because you're deciding between shotgun lasers or acid beams. Here... i just pick the highest number at this point.

Definitely worth playing, though, as long as you dont feel the need to rush through. Ive been playing exclusively solo.
 
Update:

Now about 10 or 15 hours in. I like the game a LOT more than i did a couple hours in. I am not really playing the game to advance missions as my first priority. Rather, taking someone else's advice, i turned off guides [so all you have are location hints in missions]. And i try to take on bases i find, even if it doesn't move the plot forward.

So... basically, im playing it like a stealth base attack sim. Very fun.

My biggest complaint currently is the loot system. Upgrading boots and guns every 10 seconds doesn't work. It does in borderlands because you're deciding between shotgun lasers or acid beams. Here... i just pick the highest number at this point.

Definitely worth playing, though, as long as you dont feel the need to rush through. Ive been playing exclusively solo.

Have you encountered anything where an upgraded gun even helped you?
 

VertigoOA

Banned
Yea I’m beginning to not buy the lukewarm reception.

Same thing happened with Wildlands and then it went to sell over 15 million at least. Word of mouth was strong for that game and those playing breakpoint ... well it’s not doing that well.

I didn’t love it but it has enough of MGSV in it to be the best TPS out there in the multiplayer space.

It’s a bit redundant for Ubisoft to have this launch so close to division. I mean... it’s too damn similar. And apparently it could’ve used the polish.
 
Update here also: about 20 hours in, lvl 86 gear

It's fun but very repetitive. I really have no incentive to go to base except for certain missions. My biggest gripe continues to be bugs, UI, and certain gameplay changes from Wildlands. I will say the one review that compared it to Anthem is bullocks. This game is nowhere near that level. I put it more towards Days Gone in terms of a review grade which would be about a 7.5-8/10 for me.
 

Lanrutcon

Member
I'm pushing for that last bit till ilvl 230.

I'm being dead honest when I say I can't play one evening without discovering a new bug. The game is fixable, but if you believe it wasn't rushed out the front gate then I got a bridge to sell you.
 

IbizaPocholo

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VertigoOA

Banned
Joe is trash at action games. I love his stuff but he’s fucking clueless on mp games.

fatboy’s rapid fire reviews are ok sometime too
 
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rickyEGM

Banned
playing this game solo is basically just like playing metal gear solid 5. with the understanding that the mechanics & the ai are inferior, but the environment & the story are superior...
I do get some mgsv vibes from this game, but I beg to differ that ghost recon has a better story. The map does seem bigger with cooler areas to traverse though...
 
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rickyEGM

Banned
There's a lot of very smart and provoking story in mgsv, just the way it's presented is different and more nunanced from his other games. Just because you're not sitting still watching a 60 minute long cutscene doesn't mean there isn't story.
 

Phase

Member
There's a lot of very smart and provoking story in mgsv, just the way it's presented is different and more nunanced from his other games. Just because you're not sitting still watching a 60 minute long cutscene doesn't mean there isn't story.
Kind of agree, but I really think the non-linearity ruined it for me and many others.
 

Siri

Banned
Wow... so many terribly written reviews for this game - further proof that critics, these days, suck.

I’m having a blast with this game. I spent three hours last night just clearing a tiny well guarded island that I happened to come across on my way to a mission. The atmosphere in this game is fantastic. There’s also a really good balance here between ‘tactics’ and ‘gamey-ness’. It’s both tactical and gamey at the same time.

The removal of the AI squad mates (which saddened me at first) turned out to be a great decision - sync-shot was virtually like hitting the win-button, and although a form of it exists in this game, it’s been toned down dramatically. Also happy that the enemies, at any level, aren’t bullet sponges. A huge plus for a game like this.

I’m playing this solo, btw.

Also, for what it’s worth, reading through this thread it’s pretty obvious that a bunch of people want this game to fail. They haven’t played it, they’ve no intention of playing it - but they want it to fail. Honestly, the EA haters got tiring after a while, and now that’s starting to be the case with Ubi-haters too. Bethesda’s next. Pretty soon you won’t be able to have a thread about any game from Bethesda without a certain percentage of posters coming in and just shitting all over the game simply because it’s from Bethesda.
 

VertigoOA

Banned
...

what was the point of even making a division sequel if they were going to kill it with making ghost recon the same thing...

Ubisoft has had a solid track record with delivering to their fan base with rainbow six, For Honor and AssCreed Odyssey. They even did well with the original division and crew releases... but this really is bizarre.

cannibilized their own player base with two similar releases within like 8 months of each other. Should’ve been like two years apart....

Ghost Recon had the superior gunplay tho, decently ripping off MGSV. So that’s the clear winner
 
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Lanrutcon

Member
The raid is finally out!

...and it's garbage.

Explore a new island! (that contains the same enemies, but you have to be in a group of 4 to even enter)
Do new missions! (which you can't do the moment a member of the team drops. It locks quest objectives if there aren't 4 players)
Fight a new boss! (you literally get locked in an arena with a giant mech tank who fights you with lag, instakills you with its attacks and spawns infinite enemies...tactical shooter my ass)

And your reward? lootboxes.

Wildlands was hugely popular, so let's turn the game into a shallow looter shooter that desperately wants to be Destiny. Makes sense. I'm out.
 

Dr.Morris79

Member
Bought this for £25 and installed yesterday, I know it's had a few patches and it was probably buggy to high heaven on release but my god, this game is exactly what I wanted. Vast vistas, running solo across fields bumping into random patrols and having to hide in the mud

It reminds me of all the old classic films I watched as a kid, Rambo, Platoon, Commando. I think it's bloody awsome personally. Cant wait to get stuck back in.
 

Winter John

Gold Member
You have to give it to Ubisoft. They sure know how to turn their franchises into soulless, identikit crap. It's clear now that the reason they haven't made another Rayman is they can't figure out how to add hubs and lootboxes
 

Dr.Morris79

Member
You have to give it to Ubisoft. They sure know how to turn their franchises into soulless, identikit crap. It's clear now that the reason they haven't made another Rayman is they can't figure out how to add hubs and lootboxes
Well you say that but the time i've had with it I havent actually been inundated with it, I just play solo though, maybe it's more shoved down yer neck on the multiplayer side? No idea.

What I am playing though is a great shooty romp through some impress landscapes, which does me just fine.

I'm glad I just bit the bullet and bought it, for cheap an all.
 

EverydayBeast

thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Gamers forget there aren't many TPS games out there so with all of Ghsot Recon's failures (Whoring out customization, fake world etc.) its an option for many gamers and regardless the gameplay is fluid which is extremely important.
 

The Shepard

Member
This game is way better then the reviews will have you believe. I only brought it yesterday after being turned off from the reviews it got and really enjoying it so far.
 
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Siri

Banned
Also, for those of you who might be wondering: I subscribed to Uplay’s service for a month in order to play Breakpoint, which means I must’ve downloaded and played the Deluxe Version.

Yesterday I decided to buy the Standard version on sale because I cancelled my Uplay subscription after a month,. Surprisingly, my save transferred from the Deluxe to the Standard. I didn’t even have to re-download the game.
 
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Dr.Morris79

Member
This is false.

Breakpoint can - and probably should be - played as a single player stealth game. I just spent 30 minutes clearing out a tiny village. I had to stay hidden the entire time.

Breakpoint plays nothing like The Division.
Pretty much, it's quite a stretch to compare this to The Division.
 
Honestly, so far i would have rathered a new country in the old engine..........

.........They captured some real magic with the last one, and i was hoping they would build on that. Instead, it feels lkke they didn't quite understand what made the last one so good.

Still having fun... just not the game i was hoping for.

Yeah I put it aside shortly after I got it because I was *really* hoping it'd be Wildlands 2.0. And yeah, I wanted Wildlands 2.0 set in the Vietnam war, would have been awesome, though probably controversial to a degree.

Still was fun from what I played and I should get back into it, as I really liked Wildlands.

I Don't know about Breakpoint but I can assure you that I finished Odyssey and both DLC without buying anything from the in-game store and never felt the need to do so, even on Hard, Odyssey isn't a difficult game and the things you find in-game are more than enough to beat the game without Breaking a sweat. Based on that experience (and AC Origins) I consider that microtransactions in Ubi games to be well done. Now maybe on their other games, they force you somehow to buy stuff but that's certainly not the case in Odyssey or Origins.

I just finished Odyssey this past month finally after putting it off for a while, excellent game and there's definitely no need to buy anything in the store. Got lv 50, almost done with DLC 1, got most of the achievements. I really liked the game, can't wait for Ragnarok which is a dream come true setting wise, now just need to hope for a Mongolian one with horses like I kept going on about in threads.
 

Winter John

Gold Member
Well you say that but the time i've had with it I havent actually been inundated with it, I just play solo though, maybe it's more shoved down yer neck on the multiplayer side? No idea.

What I am playing though is a great shooty romp through some impress landscapes, which does me just fine.

I'm glad I just bit the bullet and bought it, for cheap an all.

I'm going to post my response in the style of a modern Ubisoft game -


I enjoYed Wildands a bot. It wuz a fun time.

I enjoYed The Divsion a bot. It wuz a fun time.

I plaYed Breakpont and fought it was uNfinished, unblalanced and borken as fuck. It Looked purtty but that was it.

I plaYed The Divsion 2 and fought it was uNfinished, unblalanced and borken as fuck. It Looked purtty but that was it.

Toon this day I tank Gawd I didn't buy either of these soulless, borken as fuck games.

Pleeze Geeve me monnee.
 

autoduelist

Member
Yeah I put it aside shortly after I got it because I was *really* hoping it'd be Wildlands 2.0. And yeah, I wanted Wildlands 2.0 set in the Vietnam war, would have been awesome, though probably controversial to a degree.

Still was fun from what I played and I should get back into it, as I really liked Wildlands.

Breakpoint definitely improves, i ended up really liking it. On temp NFS Heat break, but look forward to digging back in.
 
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