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Stadia launches November 19

Bullet Club

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Stadia launches November 19

Google's game streaming platform dated.

Stadia will launch on November 19, Google announced.

At launch, Stadia will only be available to Stadia Pro subscribers, which is a $9.99 a month subscription. The free version of Stadia will launch in 2020.

Stadia streams games directly from Google’s data centers to your devices. To play on your TV, plug in a Chromecast Ultra and set up your Stadia controller using the Stadia app on your phone. Once you set that up, you can jump in and begin playing. Stadia games can also be played on your laptop, desktop, and select tablets and smartphones.

The Founder’s Edition of Stadia is currently available for pre-order at Stadia.com. It includes three free months of Stadia Pro, a Buddy Pass for a friend, a Chromecast Ultra, and an exclusive Night Blue Stadia Controller.

Read more about Stadia here.

Watch a new trailer below.




Source: Gematsu
 

dorkimoe

Member
If this worked on iPad's i would consider it but then cancel it as soon as microsofts xCloud comes to ipad
 

mcjmetroid

Member
I ain't super hyped for this thing, but I hate it when people root for failure of something like this.

It's just another option, it isn't out to replace your Playstation.

I look forward to trying out the streaming tech but i wish they had a free trial.
I would argue that if it is a runaway success, it would threaten the traditional console setup as we know it.

This reminds me of people defending the casual games on the Wii and I was one of them.
Yes the games were harmless when there is a balance struck between traditional content and casual content(Something Nintendo is doing masterfully with the Switch)
but they ended up destroying the Wii with copycat software because of it's success. It also caused Microsoft to go nuts and pack Kinect with their console ruining the XboxOne's launch which they are still suffering from.

This is also why I'm glad Nintendo are making shit games for mobile. I don't want them to succeed and stop making quality console games.

I appreciate streaming as a technology but make no mistake, if this blows up in any amazing way MS and PS will take notice as they have been already.
I don't mind an option when there is a decent balance struck between streaming and locally owned games.
 
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Fuz

Banned
I ain't super hyped for this thing, but I hate it when people root for failure of something like this.

It's just another option, it isn't out to replace your Playstation.

I look forward to trying out the streaming tech but i wish they had a free trial.
You really hate those pesky consumer's rights, do you?
 
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spons

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The most laughable deal in the industry is their only offer at launch. Ditch the subscription model or go fully subscription, not somewhere in-between.

Interesting also that a "very limited deal", the founder's edition, is still widely available.
 
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spons

Member
HOW at the very least aren't they starting off with a 1 month trial version or something...
A trial for what, exactly? The only thing you get in return for paying is to play the game as intended. The castrated version isn't even releasing this year.
 

jshackles

Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
The most laughable deal in the industry is their only offer at launch. Ditch the subscription model or go fully subscription, not somewhere in-between.
If you are gaming on a console, you already have both. If you buy a PlayStation 4 PlayStation 4 and want to play online, you've gotta also buy a subscription to PS+. If you buy an Xbox One Xbox One , you've gotta also get Xbox Live Gold. Stadia's launch is targeted specifically to people who would buy PS+/XBLG anyway, and for the same price. Except now you don't have to buy the console. The real kicker is that next year they'll have a subscription-free offering - you still have to buy the games (just like traditional consoles!) but the online multiplayer is free and isn't contingent on your subscription to their service. Stadia's monthly subscription also gets you free games on the platform, just like PS+/Gold.

Personally I'm interested to see how well this works and how well it does commercially.
 

D-Dude

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mcjmetroid

Member
A trial for what, exactly? The only thing you get in return for paying is to play the game as intended. The castrated version isn't even releasing this year.

Like if you're going to be buying the games independently for full price like other consoles shouldn't the idea be to get as many users onto the platform so a free month trial for the service should be a thing?
Like I believe PSPLUS has this etc?

"Join Google Stadia now where you get 1 month playtime for free."
Instead it seems like they're releasing a free version next year?

I might be confused here and I won't be the only one.
 

wvnative

Member
I would argue that if it is a runaway success, it would threaten the traditional console setup as we know it.

This reminds me of people defending the casual games on the Wii and I was one of them.
Yes the games were harmless when there is a balance struck between traditional content and casual content(Something Nintendo is doing masterfully with the Switch)
but they ended up destroying the Wii with copycat software because of it's success. It also caused Microsoft to go nuts and pack Kinect with their console ruining the XboxOne's launch which they are still suffering from.

This is also why I'm glad Nintendo are making shit games for mobile. I don't want them to succeed and stop making quality console games.

I appreciate streaming as a technology but make no mistake, if this blows up in any amazing way MS and PS will take notice as they have been already.
I don't mind an option when there is a decent balance struck between streaming and locally owned games.


Despite the runaway success of the Wii and how it nearly infected it's competitors, we still have awesome traditional games and that fad kinda faded, and even Nintendo has toned down the gimmicks lately.


I always look at pros/cons of any new product or service. Make no mistake I have many concerns about Stadia, but also looking at some benefits of it I can't help but be interested in how it turns out. I like the idea of never worrying about HDD space again, or losing saves if a console fails, having the freedom to use different input methods for games, being able to try games more freely. Many possibilities exist.
 

spons

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If you are gaming on a console, you already have both. If you buy a PlayStation 4 PlayStation 4 and want to play online, you've gotta also buy a subscription to PS+. If you buy an Xbox One Xbox One , you've gotta also get Xbox Live Gold. Stadia's launch is targeted specifically to people who would buy PS+/XBLG anyway, and for the same price. Except now you don't have to buy the console. The real kicker is that next year they'll have a subscription-free offering - you still have to buy the games (just like traditional consoles!) but the online multiplayer is free and isn't contingent on your subscription to their service. Stadia's monthly subscription also gets you free games on the platform, just like PS+/Gold.

Personally I'm interested to see how well this works and how well it does commercially.
That's an interesting way to look at it, and also somewhat misguided, because it implies that I agree with paid online on consoles. It's almost as if free online is some kind of selling point, although it should be the norm, as it is on PC.

If I have to grasp for reasons to play on Stadia, it's that it's console-less. Being able to connect my controller to almost any device and just play some games is neat.
 

mcjmetroid

Member
If you are gaming on a console, you already have both. If you buy a PlayStation 4 PlayStation 4 and want to play online, you've gotta also buy a subscription to PS+. If you buy an Xbox One Xbox One , you've gotta also get Xbox Live Gold. Stadia's launch is targeted specifically to people who would buy PS+/XBLG anyway, and for the same price. Except now you don't have to buy the console. The real kicker is that next year they'll have a subscription-free offering - you still have to buy the games (just like traditional consoles!) but the online multiplayer is free and isn't contingent on your subscription to their service. Stadia's monthly subscription also gets you free games on the platform, just like PS+/Gold.

Personally I'm interested to see how well this works and how well it does commercially.

The problem with that is the Playstation and the Xbox are established brands. This is a new service with untested technology for most people and for the same price as a console + online, it's going to be an extremely hard sell especially when the games not going to perform as well as a console.

Not to mention that it has no worthwhile games that aren't on consoles.

Of course it could improve over time but when has Google been known with sticking with anything for long if it's not initially successful.
 
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scalman

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many dont understand that it better work and its better bite some competitors asses , why ? because speed will goup and prices will go down. the less competition you get the higher prices will be and nobody will care to make it better , so it wont progress so much as well. so i hope it suprise us
 

jshackles

Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
The problem with that is the Playstation and the Xbox are established brands. This is a new service with untested technology for most people and for the same price as a console + online, it's going to be an extremely hard sell especially when the games not going to perform as well as a console.

Not to mention that it has no worthwhile games that aren't on consoles.

Of course it could improve over time but when has Google been known with sticking with anything for long if it's not initially successful.
I'll agree that the really interesting aspects of Stadia won't come along until we see developers integrating directly with other Google services like Youtube or doing things that aren't possible on current consoles like integrated online save-states. If you're watching a clip from your favorite reviewer on Youtube and have a link to jump directly to the part of the game that they were playing, or watching a live-stream and being able to pop directly into their multiplayer session, or being able to start a co-op game directly from gmail or google hangouts, Stadia has powerful implications for how people could potentially interact with games in the future.

Or Google could fuck it up. Hard to say which way it'll go.
 

IntentionalPun

Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Sweet!

Can't wait to download my next-gen console in November while you sucka's wait a year to pay $400 for a lame VHS sized piece of joke HARDWARE.

HA

HA

HA!
 
Unpopular opinion ahead. Reader discretion is advised.

Anyone who wants this is either a corporate ball-washing shill, doesn't understand gaming and/or streaming or is a little bit mentally deficient.

Stadia brings nothing new to the table, will not bring anything new to the table and offers a subpar gaming experience on devices that aren't made for gaming, just so people can play single player games while walking down the street or sitting on a train?

Where are you getting wifi from?
How are you comfortably and accurately controlling a game on a phone?
Do you, fat nerd, really need more time away from the real world to bury your head in yet another device to play games?

If stadia is a success, I worry about the people who will spend every minute of their free time, commute time and 'social' time, playing games. They won't be people but cyborg zombies.
 

Azelover

Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
I ain't super hyped for this thing, but I hate it when people root for failure of something like this.

It's just another option, it isn't out to replace your Playstation.

I look forward to trying out the streaming tech but i wish they had a free trial.

Eh! I wouldn't be so sure if I were you. The hope and intention behind this "trend", is certainly to replace consoles. I don't think it's gonna happen, personally. But the intent is surely there.

If by a miracle this works for 90%+ of the industry's audiences, how can manufacturers justify investing their all on physical hardware in the future? Like it or not, selling and supporting videogame hardware is a costly venture.
 

Warnen

Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
I’ll wait till I can play on my iPad with there controller or mine. If works I’ll give it a try.
 

Generic

Member
I would argue that if it is a runaway success, it would threaten the traditional console setup as we know it.

This reminds me of people defending the casual games on the Wii and I was one of them.
Yes the games were harmless when there is a balance struck between traditional content and casual content(Something Nintendo is doing masterfully with the Switch)
but they ended up destroying the Wii with copycat software because of it's success. It also caused Microsoft to go nuts and pack Kinect with their console ruining the XboxOne's launch which they are still suffering from.

This is also why I'm glad Nintendo are making shit games for mobile. I don't want them to succeed and stop making quality console games.

I appreciate streaming as a technology but make no mistake, if this blows up in any amazing way MS and PS will take notice as they have been already.
I don't mind an option when there is a decent balance struck between streaming and locally owned games.
Nintendo never stopped making good games. Companies releasing shovelware for the Wii or Microsoft mismanaging the Kinect have nothing to do with Nintendo.
 

Grinchy

Banned
I hope there are a bunch of videos of how horrible the input lag is and how it ruins online games and basically any public statement that Google has made about the fantasy land where this is going to work "even better than home consoles."

Though, I guess it would actually be pretty sweet if it worked extremely well.
 
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Neofire

Member
I ain't super hyped for this thing, but I hate it when people root for failure of something like this.

It's just another option, it isn't out to replace your Playstation.

I look forward to trying out the streaming tech but i wish they had a free trial.
Someone slept through business 101 class. Please don't be so naive is to think that Google is looking to share the market, look at the statements they have made about console gaimg, hell look at Google itself. It is a monopoly giant and we know their isn't marketshare for what Google wants the video industry to be.
 

MiguelItUp

Member
Yeah, I don't understand the shitting on it thing. Am I for it? Not necessarily, I mean, I don't plan on getting it at all. To add to that, I don't even know what market they're really aiming for with this. Maybe folks that want a "more graphic intensive" alternative than a Switch that they can practically play on the go? Unsure.

I WILL say that I'm incredibly curious to see how this all pans out. I can't say whether or not I think it would be successful or not. But it IS interesting to see new tech (or "improved" previous tech mind you) that's trying to compete with other platforms.
 

Middeldorf

Neo Member
I think people are missing the main point of Stadia. They have a free 1080p version of it schedule to release next year. I think there would be a lot of people who would like to buy and stream massive games like RDR2 without having to buy an expensive local box to run it. I missed a lot of games during the PS3 era for not having money to buy a console or a pc, but I would definitely have bought one or two games to stream if my internet connection was fast enough.

The fact that people can have a high-end 1080p machine streaming for free is kinda crazy, even if you have to buy the games for retail price.
 
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mcjmetroid

Member
Nintendo never stopped making good games. Companies releasing shovelware for the Wii or Microsoft mismanaging the Kinect have nothing to do with Nintendo.
They released traditional content far more sparingly. If you think they didn't try to shift focus during that time you're lying to yourself. I remember being on the forums during those days.

Also Kinect would never have happened without the Wii so I'd argue it had everything to do with Nintendo.
 
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Miyazaki’s Slave

Gold Member
This thread seems to be more aimed at the offering in general not necessarily the performance of the service and I recognize this is probably not the place for this but....

With potential Google Fi (which is an excellent mobile provider in my opinion) 5G support in the future I think they will have a great ecosystem for their products and user base.

I have had no issues with Stadia beta tests using the Verizon 5G modem in my area (there are lots of people that argue that the modem they offer isn't technically 5g.....they are probably right....but the speed is great none the less). Also, I have had no issues with PS Now or streaming my Xbox app over that same 5G modem.

I can see how crowded this space is going to be in a year and I can also see a huge potential for engaging with my games via PC/Console hardware and Streaming solutions as well if it works as good as it does now when the full service is active.

The future will tell us if this particular Google service survives, (things didn't work out for Vudu when it came to the digital tv/movie marketplace) but there are tons of services that offer what they did that are still around and performing well.

My hope is that as more and more offerings become available they will drive positive competition with the consumer benefiting the most from that competition.
 

Fbh

Member
I still think the model (at least as far as I'm aware) is unappealing.
I already dislike the way digital ownership works currently, this is taking the glorified renting concept to the next level .

GOG = You can download an installer to store wherever you want and install your games wherever you want even without internet. Online features and multiplayer require our (and the devs) service to be running though. If we ever shut down the multiplayer part of your games will stop working and you won't be able to redownload them, but you can continue using your pre-downlaoded installer to install your games where you see fit and use all their offline features and modes normally

Steam/Consoles/Epic/etc: You can freely download, install and play "your" games as long as our service is running and you are logged into your account. Most games can be played offline though some form of online "validation" might be necessary from time to time. Depending on the service, if we ever shut down you might be able to continue playing your downloaded and installed games but you won't be able to redownload them or install them on a new machine.

Stadia: You get unlimited permission to stream "your games" from our server. You need fast internet at all times. If we ever shut down we are taking everything down with us.


A trial for what, exactly? The only thing you get in return for paying is to play the game as intended. The castrated version isn't even releasing this year.

Well it sounds like this thing working well or not will depend on a ton of factors. Your physical location, your internet speed, how many people at home use said internet connection, if your device is set up with Wifi or cable, etc, etc.
You can't really set up demo stations because they won't reflect each persons individual setup, and reviews are pretty pointless too because some dude living in another city (or country) on a different connection using different hardware saying that it works great for him doesn't mean it will be same for you.

So there really should be a way to test out the service for free. Epic is handing out a free game every week, surely Google can afford to partner with some dev to offer their game as part of a 7 day trial or something
 
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Kagero

Member
I ain't super hyped for this thing, but I hate it when people root for failure of something like this.

It's just another option, it isn't out to replace your Playstation.

I look forward to trying out the streaming tech but i wish they had a free trial.
If it succeeds, then there won't be another option. That's the point. The success of this thing will determine the future of gaming going forward. That's not a future I want.
 
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