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[The Alien]

I can certainly understand why Sony wouldn't want to do it. They are in first and have no reason to assist Microsoft and Nintendo. But just say you dont want to do it...dont give out shitty excuses.

Also, it's fine if u don't wanna cross play, but the locking of people's accounts to only your PS4 is bullshit...and really not a 'for the gamers' move.

 

[Mokus]

Seeing Sony fans defend this crap all over the internet in pretty much any crossplay related discussion is REALLY ridiculous and just show they are corporate shills that will defend anything sony does, are they even gamers or just Sony fans and Sony just happens to make a Game console?

Let's go over the stupid Sony fan Talking points

1. Sony is Market leader so they don't have to do anything
* What kind of crap is this type of argument? This isn't a race where the market leader Wins a trophy and then gets to shit all over it's customers while their customers lavish praise on them. You dumbasses who thinks this ALLOW companies to step all over you, WTF is wrong with you?

2. MS did this before how come no one ever brings that up?
* MS denied a single MP game from crossplay almost 10 years ago at the height of Sonys Network security issues, And it IS brought up in every single one of these threads EACH and every time. Also shouldn't that be the goal where companies progress to make more consumer friendly decisions over time? MS changed to be more consumer friendly in this regard that is a GOOD thing not something to use an excuse so Sony can be anti consumer now.

3. It doesn't matter I don't care about this I'll buy Sony games anyway
* If you didn't care you wouldn't post and just cause YOU don't care doesn't mean others don't care about this issue. If you accept Sony's Anti consumer practices I don't want to hear you flip your shit when other game companies do anti consumer things.

4. MS would do/did the same thing when they are market leaders
* MS has never been a console market leader, last gen WII sold the most, Also MS has ALL new leaderships and have a completely different focus for their services. Office is on IOS/MAC/Android, MS services work across almost all devices and platforms. This is the direction from the CEO down this is not going to change anytime soon.

5. It's a business decision for Sony which I understand
* So are you a shareholder or a gamer? How is this good business for Sony? They are making versions of very popular games the WORST versions to play on, Minecraft is now regulated to an old isolated version of the game cause Sony won;t opt into the "better together" version. Fortnite locks you out of using your account on Switch or Xbox while without tainting your account to Sony you can move that account anywhere else. Having the worst version of popular games and isolating PSN users is certainly not a wise business decision in todays gaming environment. Sony is actively making their platform less attractive to the current trends in gaming in the short temr and long term. This is not good business, Sony is being stupid and arrogant.

We can really cut to the chase on most of these arguments it is obvious what is going on. A certain subset of the gaming community are such Sonty fanboys that they are ok with whatever Sony does cause they care more about SONY'S best interest then their own or other gamers best interest. We can drop the charade

Lol, who cares! There are just few gamers that are really affected by this. For the rest, it's not like they are playing on empty servers because Sony doesn't allow cross-platform play.

 

[mad597]

Lol, who cares! There are just few gamers that are really affected by this. For the rest, it's not like they are playing on empty servers because Sony doesn't allow cross-platform play.

Your lame excuse was covered in point #3

 

[The_Mike]

I can certainly understand why Sony wouldn't want to do it. They are in first and have no reason to assist Microsoft and Nintendo. But just say you dont want to do it...dont give out shitty excuses.

Also, it's fine if u don't wanna cross play, but the locking of people's accounts to only your PS4 is bullshit...and really not a 'for the gamers' move.

“For the players” is so cringy when it comes from Sony.

 

[mad597]

One thing to point out Sony did not just "become" arrogant. They have been this way all gen. They just capitalized on MS mistakes to appear pro consumer but all gen they have been anti consumer. Sony has been anti consumer all gen

No EA Access
No BC
No ability to play previously purchased PSN games on PS Now
No Digital return system
Blocking your account for charge backs due to crappy return policies in the first place
Crappy Mod support
Not able to change your freaking use rname
No Cross play with other consoles
Locking Fortnite accounts that ever access PSN

 

[Petrae]

Arrogant Sony sure has made a big comeback this gen. You’d almost think that Don Mattrick was in some kind of advisor role.

 

[Mokus]

Your lame excuse was covered in point #3

If it's anything lame, is that you wrote a long hate-filled post just because you like one side which is having hard times lately. You must have better things to do in life than be so consumed by hate. Not much will change if tomorrow Sony announces that they will allow cross-platform play (and I'm sure you still would hate them).

 

[vpance]

Non news basically.

 

[Ogbert]

Apologies if I’m being daft, but why would the game being inferior on another platform have anything to do with Cross play?

Even if it is inferior on other platforms, it’s still a benefit for Sony players.

 

[Louis Cyphre]

If it's anything lame, is that you wrote a long hate-filled post just because you like one side which is having hard times lately. You must have better things to do in life than be so consumed by hate. Not much will change if tomorrow Sony announces that they will allow cross-platform play (and I'm sure you still would hate them).

Hey buddy, don't sit there and say "you must have better things to do". You're here just like he is. His assessment was 100% on point and you responding clarifies that even more so.

Apologies if I’m being daft, but why would the game being inferior on another platform have anything to do with Cross play?

Even if it is inferior on other platforms, it’s still a benefit for Sony players.

Now this is gold Jerry.

This from Sony is really the best part,

"But actually, we already opened some games as cross-platform with PC and some others, so we decide based on what is the best user experience.

That's right, WE DECIDE and we know our fans will support us no matter what. Just like WE DECIDE about EA Access among other things. That's why they are being labelled as arrogant. It's a complete contradiction of what Reggie was saying earlier this year about allowing 3rd party to do as they wish. Nintendo of all companies saying this is hilarious and just makes Sony's stance all the more embarrassing. A company who relished in 3rd party relations which made them who they are today (and no it's not exclusives) at a time when Nintendo was so controlling.

 

[theviolenthero]

Just because you have the largest install base DOES NOT automatically mean every game on your system has the largest online community or sells the most on your platform for every game.
If that was the case then every PC version of a game would sell the most & have the largest community and Switch versions would have the lowest in both categories which we know is flat out not true.

A perfect example is the Rocket League numbers that got released in July: https://www.rocketleague.com/news/rocket-league-third-birthday/
39% of Players are on PS4 (Psn+ game & 9 months of exclusivity)
35% are on Xbox (half the install base of PS4 yet only 4% behind)
21% are on Steam (largest install base by far yet in 3rd place)
5% are on Switch

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

One thing to point out Sony did not just "become" arrogant. They have been this way all gen. They just capitalized on MS mistakes to appear pro consumer but all gen they have been anti consumer. Sony has been anti consumer all gen

No EA Access
No BC
No ability to play previously purchased PSN games on PS Now
No Digital return system
Blocking your account for charge backs due to crappy return policies in the first place
Crappy Mod support
Not able to change your freaking use rname
No Cross play with other consoles
Locking Fortnite accounts that ever access PSN

No BC and not being able to change your username are the only things that bother me from this list.

 

[hiphopcr]

Well done from Sony to stay firm on its beliefs and decisions.

This is next level delusion. And I suppose not having the option to subscribe to EA All Access is truly the best value for you?

 

[Woo-Fu]

Charging what the market will bear isn't arrogance, it is capitalism. This is the same sort of behavior, just not specifically about price but about features.

Every platform holder pushes the limits of what their customers will accept. The leading company at any point in time gets to push a bit harder, just the way it works. The weaker competitors do things to curry favor (and people call this pro-consumer although it isn't pro-consumer, it is called trying to gain a competitive advantage.) Cross-platform for Fortnite is a competitive advantage that bolsters Microsoft's offering. Sony doesn't believe the value in offering the same is worth the cost and risk of doing so.

When Sony was significantly behind MS with the PS3 the same stupid pro/anti consumer argument went on, just with Sony being the "good" guys and Microsoft being the "bad" guys. Anybody who has been paying attention realizes that it isn't a matter of good guys and bad guys, it is simply a matter of business.

 

[hiphopcr]

Sony won't allow Fortnite players on PlayStation to play against their friends with other consoles – because those people are having inferior experiences.

Interesting because according to them the extra pixels you get on X1X and PC make all the difference...

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

When Sony was significantly behind MS with the PS3 the same stupid pro/anti consumer argument went on, just with Sony being the "good" guys and Microsoft being the "bad" guys. Anybody who has been paying attention realizes that it isn't a matter of good guys and bad guys, it is simply a matter of business.

Yup. Depending on how next gen goes the "bad" guy crown will change places.

 

[Humdinger]

Surprised at how outraged some people are at this.

Oh wait. No I'm not.

 

[Mokus]

Hey buddy, don't sit there and say "you must have better things to do". You're here just like he is. His assessment was 100% on point and you responding clarifies that even more so.

I think your smart enough to understand that I was referring to his hate, and not about "sitting here" and get new infos about the gaming world and have a discussion about it. And "his assessment" was 100% about accumulated hate towards Sony and its fans.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Interesting because according to them the extra pixels you get on X1X and PC make all the difference...

Sure, but then there is that whole paywall thing Sony does not have for Fortnite, that MS does, which would make for his comment to have some sense. Best place to play = subscription free and largest player pool is what I gather.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Sure, but then there is that whole paywall thing Sony does not have for Fortnite, that MS does, which would make for his comment to make some sense.

Oh right Fortnite isn't free on Xbox.

 

[Louis Cyphre]

I think your smart enough to understand that I was referring to his hate, and not about "sitting here" and get new infos about the gaming world and have a discussion about it. And "his assessment" was 100% about accumulated hate towards Sony and its fans.

I think Sony has a great product and some of the best games out there but valid criticism can still be talked about. It's just ironic to see many of the same people show up each time this comes up to say they don't really care.

Sure, but then there is that whole paywall thing Sony does not have for Fortnite, that MS does, which would make for his comment to have some sense. Best place to play = subscription free and largest player pool is what I gather.

That would actually have some merit if it was isolated but other titles like Rocket League prove Sony is full of shit. I thought it was totally disrespectful for them to not even bother telling them they had no interest from the very beginning to even listen to their interest of console crossplay.

 

[DeepEnigma]

That would actually have some merit if it was isolated but other titles like Rocket League prove Sony is full of shit. I thought it was totally disrespectful for them to not even bother telling them they had no interest from the very beginning to even listen to their interest of console crossplay.

Rocket League is not F2P locked behind a paywall on one, and not the other. I was only speaking about his comment saying Fortnite is the best place to play on the PS4 having nothing to do with graphics/resolution, but rather those parameters (truly free and currently the largest player pool). Nothing more.

 

[Son_of_Zardoz]

This is so dumb, it would probably be better if they just shut up about it.

Does it affect me? No.

But my oldest son plays on his X1 with a a couple of his buddies that have X1s also and a couple that are on Switches. The one kid in their group that has a PS4 is shit out luck. Apparently he's already put in the request for a Switch for christmas. Feel bad for him since that's all they play and it's not like you can just go out and buy one when you are young.

 

[DForce]

Um...

Phil says that he thinks that the best place to play is on the Xbox line of services, but them and Nintendo get along and share some of their online experiences.

Sony says the best place to play is on Playstation and fuck you play on Playstation.

Greenberg also said Xbox has more hardcore gamers.

Let's be honest, their goal is not to do it "for the players" the want part of Sony's install base. If MS and Nintendo REALLY wanted to do things for the players, then they would put their exclusives\console exclusive games on other platforms.

 

[Louis Cyphre]

Rocket League is not F2P locked behind a paywall on one, and not the other. I was only speaking about his comment saying Fortnite is the best place to play on the PS4 having nothing to do with graphics/resolution, but rather those parameters (truly free and currently the largest player pool). Nothing more.

I get that but in the broader sense it's irrelevant because they will say that about any game they block from console crossplay, that others are giving a worse experience or whatever PR crap they want to spew that day. I think it's in Sony's best interest to say nothing and just continue to ignore it all until next gen.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I get that but in the broader sense it's irrelevant because they will say that about any game they block from console crossplay, that others are giving a worse experience or whatever PR crap they want to spew that day. I think it's in Sony's best interest to say nothing and just continue to ignore it all until next gen.

I definitely agree with your last sentence.

 

[Mokus]

I think Sony has a great product and some of the best games out there but valid criticism can still be talked about. It's just ironic to see many of the same people show up each time this comes up to say they don't really care.

Trust me, I am not some blind fan. I know well Sonys cross-platform play block is really unnecessary. But I really believe this barely affects non hard-core gamers and it's exaggerated by the other side.

And there is no irony for the same people showing up for the same discussion. It's natural Germans will drink beer, Irish will eat potatoes, Chinese will eat rice you and me will have the same opinions tomorrow as we had it yesterday (unless some major changes will come up).

 

[Ascend]

PS3 and XBOX 360 disagree.

Really? As an example...
PS3 started with backwards compatibility, and the X360 started with the RROD.
PS3 lost BC, and X360 fixed pretty much all its issues.

Actually, its exactly the opposite. At least if we are talking about quality of games, which honestly, is all I really care about.

Quality of games, maybe, but I was talking about the platform.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Really? As an example...
PS3 started with backwards compatibility, and the X360 started with the RROD.
PS3 lost BC, and X360 fixed pretty much all its issues.


Quality of games, maybe, but I was talking about the platform.

Just a little correction

PS3 still had PS1 BC (just not PS2 later on). I just got a new Super Slim to finally plat Demon's Souls after 9 years last month, just to replace my old BC phat boy that is starting to overheat and sound like a hairdryer after 10 years and I am able to play all my PS1 games (disc or digital) without an issue.

X360 also abandoned support for their BC and it's thin catalogue as well about midway through.

 

[thelastword]

Yet PC is the best platform. He should ban his own platform.

Dude is just a massive tool, the reason he allows PC to crossplay is because he needs the userbase.

He doesn't need the PC userbase, he allows PC because PC is not a competitor to PS, and besides, most multiplats have a larger userbase on PS4 over PC. Pretty much all btw.....

I have no problem with this honesty. Just lay the cards out there; No fortnite cross-platform is a bussines decision. Making the most popular game right now enjoyable with a friend who has an Xbox One or switch? NOPE, get a PS4.

I'd assume PS4 and PC are the most played on platforms for fortnite (although I haven't seen any numbers, just assuming), so making platform choice irrelevant could be bad for bussines. Not saying I agree though. Also the amount of flak they're getting now is also not really good for bussines either. Will it get to Battlefront 2 heights though? I doubt it. The game is playable so why bother.

No it isn't, all the internet noise and pitchforks is from supporters of the other team, you'd think they'd buy another XBONEX just to boost the XBOX numbers at NPD to convince people that MS is gaining traction because of crossplay, but yet, here they are, some don't even have an XBOX system for crying out loud.......The truth is, these outrages, like crossplay and spiderman downgrade, who do you think is fueling that? Just MS fans, yet it always backfires. These guys created a storm on forums about CP, but Sony still outsold the XBOX and Nintendo combined in that month......Sony is right, the best place to play is PS, they have the largest fortnite userbase, they have the best games by far, they have the better OS, you don't have to be subscribed to PLUS to play fornite (how non anti-consumer eh!). Yet, they have the most crossplay games on offer too.......So if you want all these things including crossplay, Sony still decimates the competition in all these things.

Yet, It's true though, Sony does not want Crossplay with MS, for good reason. It doesn't help their business. Sony is not in the business of helping an 800 billion dollar company improve their gaming division, who's paying them for that. Sony is in the business of making the most money this gen after delivering great hardware and reading the market as far as hardware, price and game delivery is concerned, there's no need to throw MS a bone when people could not care-less about buying their hardware. If MS has an issue with not enough persons playing fortnite, tell them release the paywall or make their platform more exciting so more people would be interested in an XBOX console. Sony is not responsible for making XBOX's gaming division better. I personally want Sony to make as much money as they can this gen because they did everything right and deserve the success after some really hard times closing in on the PS3 era, but as a customer, more-so because I want to see a no-holds-barred PS5 by Cerny, and it's looking like this is what we're going to get, with many new IP's for next gen just the same.......That is what's going to win next gen, not crossplay...

So when every talk about crossplay brings out MS fans in droves, thinking this will make MS successful, either some of these folk are willfully ignorant or they can't see the forest for the trees. Next gen there will be no CP between XBOX and PS and the results will be just the same.....It's non-ending really. People said, UHD bluray would save xbox, the most powerful console would save xbox, gamepass would save xbox, an mp based services console would save xbox, BC will save xbox, the elite controller and peripheals would save xbox, especially before this gen officially started, if you read all the positive articles on TV TV TV and Kinect......NOW it's like this;.....XBOX complete pass, Crossplay, Game Developer Acquisitions and a Streaming console will save XBOX, all these features including gamepass will change the industry and every other console developer which does not deliver is anti-consumer.....SMH really...........When will we learn...?

Except the Xbox One X is vastly superior both in terms of hardware and online services to Ps4. I own a Ps4 pro and I regret buying it. To hell with sony's pr bullshit.

The XBONEX is based on the same RX480 as PS4 PRO, just with more memory/bandwidth and slightly higher clocks 1 year later (@$500). People always bring up XBONEX, but it's staying right there on the shelves. 99% of XBOX owners are XBOX-ONE owners, so who are all these people enjoying superior hardware? When PS4 was exceedingly superior to XBOX-ONE for 4 years with 720p vs 1080 and worse effects and framerate on Xbox, everyone who had a PS4 enjoyed that divide as opposed to a few XBONEX owners in the wild. Some of you XBOX owners forget your XBOX-ONE vanilla and XBONE-S cousins are now languisng at 816 x 756 in the new COD. There are more of them jumping in the yard, they outpace your'll by over 9:1. Don't pretend every XBOX owner is now an XBONEX owner, because as can be seen in the NPD, the power difference and price is moot to gamers, even when XBONEX is being offered for way below MSRP at every outlet and recently at gamestop you could trade in any console and get a max of $300.00 towards an XBONEX and it still has not done or won't do much for XBOX.

Isn't he repeating exactly Microsofts statement from the PS3\Xbox 360 era when Sony wanted cross-platform play?

Money!...

As someone who mainly plays on ps4 i don't see a problem with this statement.

Money!

^^
Yoshida is right you know!!!

 

[DeepEnigma]

The XBONEX is based on the same RX480 as PS4 PRO, just with more memory/bandwidth and slightly higher clocks 1 year later (@$500). People always bring up XBONEX, but it's staying right there on the shelves. 99% of XBOX owners are XBOX-ONE owners, so who are all these people enjoying superior hardware? When PS4 was exceedingly superior to XBOX-ONE for 4 years with 720p vs 1080 and worse effects and framerate on Xbox, everyone who had a PS4 enjoyed that divide as opposed to a few XBONEX owners in the wild. Some of you XBOX owners forget your XBOX-ONE vanilla and XBONE-S cousins are now languisng at 816 x 756 in the new COD. There are more of them jumping in the yard, they outpace your'll by over 9:1. Don't pretend every XBOX owner is now an XBONEX owner, because as can be seen in the NPD, the power difference and price is moot to gamers, even when XBONEX is being offered for way below MSRP at every outlet and recently at gamestop you could trade in any console and get a max of $300.00 towards an XBONEX and it still has not done or won't do much for XBOX.

On a side note... remember when MS would send engineers to help developers get games as close, or on par/parity with the PS4 for resolution so they did not lose that PR war, as well as throw a good bone to their player-base by doing this? Now that they released their $500 box, who the fuck cares about those muddy ass screens that 90%+ of our player-base has to endure now. Just buy the new hotness, hardcorest of fans! Just something I noticed on their end since.

 

[mad597]

Oh for fucks sake the biggest Sony shill of all time is here to write fan fiction novels about how great Sony is. Shocking he would show up to defend Sony honor.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Oh for fucks sake the biggest Sony shill of all time is here to write fan fiction novels about how great Sony is. Shocking he would show up to defend Sony honor.

Attack his position, not the person himself.

 

[MrHeisenbird]

This is next level delusion. And I suppose not having the option to subscribe to EA All Access is truly the best value for you?

Fuck EA.

 

[FranXico]

2. MS did this before how come no one ever brings that up?
* MS denied a single MP game from crossplay almost 10 years ago at the height of Sonys Network security issues, And it IS brought up in every single one of these threads EACH and every time. Also shouldn't that be the goal where companies progress to make more consumer friendly decisions over time? MS changed to be more consumer friendly in this regard that is a GOOD thing not something to use an excuse so Sony can be anti consumer now.

The bold is factually incorrect, but I agree with most of your post.

I do find the general sentiment of "MS are good guys now" incredibly naive, but time will show you the truth...

 

[Schrödinger's cat]

Ah, we're going through this again. Then allow me to ask the same question that I've yet to ever get a direct answer to and one that is supported by empirical evidence, as opposed to supposition:

After 180+ games with cross play, and that cross-play has been around since the Dreamcast, where is the market analysis of its commercial value, value specifically attributed to the presence of cross-play?

I'm very interested in seeing this empirical data. If you have it, please share it. Thanks.

 

[mad597]

Attack his position, not the person himself.

Nope waste of time, he is a Sony shill robot and all he ever does is write Sony fan fiction novels he and other Sony nut job fans yank off to.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Nope waste of time, he is a Sony shill robot and all he ever does is write Sony fan fiction novels he and other Sony nut job fans yank off to.

I hope you hold those sentiments for the same warriors of their platform choice as well. One's I can literally name in my short time back since they too stick out like a sore thumb jumping into posts to hot-take or spread faux outrage.

But something tells me... no.

 

[Toe-Knee]

Really? As an example...
PS3 started with backwards compatibility, and the X360 started with the RROD.
PS3 lost BC, and X360 fixed pretty much all its issues.


Quality of games, maybe, but I was talking about the platform.

All Ps3s still have full ps1 BC and my ps3 also plays ps2

And the biggest reason to buy a games console is games

 

[thelastword]

On a side note... remember when MS would send engineers to help developers get games as close, or on par/parity with the PS4 for resolution so they did not lose that PR war, as well as throw a good bone to their player-base by doing this? Now that they released their $500 box, who the fuck cares about those muddy ass screens that 90%+ of our player-base has to endure now. Just buy the new hotness, hardcorest of fans! Just something I noticed on their end since.

Yeah, I remember....... I think there were money engineers mixed in too when every game had a rez and framerate divide at that time, but games like Destiny didn't?????...I guess debates and stuff.....Yet, MS has now abandoned these guys with their engineering team. I guess all those engineers are now deployed trying to push native 4k for XBONEX, whilst 99% of the xbox base get close to 360 resolutions or worse....Talk about anti-consumer to the bulk of your userbase.....I mean, I hardly hear about XBOX-ONE anymore, the console (where there was not much difference from PS4; 720-900p and a few less frames and effects was hardly noticeable anyway..).......Till...

 

[JetSetRadio]

Amazing and the right response too at the moment.

 

[hiphopcr]

Fuck EA.

Well in your case lack of choice is probably a good thing

 

[The_Mike]

One thing to point out Sony did not just "become" arrogant. They have been this way all gen. They just capitalized on MS mistakes to appear pro consumer but all gen they have been anti consumer. Sony has been anti consumer all gen

No EA Access
No BC
No ability to play previously purchased PSN games on PS Now
No Digital return system
Blocking your account for charge backs due to crappy return policies in the first place
Crappy Mod support
Not able to change your freaking use rname
No Cross play with other consoles
Locking Fortnite accounts that ever access PSN

“But we dont want that we only want exclusives”. Before that it was better graphics until One X got released.

 

[DeepEnigma]

“But we dont want that we only want exclusives”. Before that it was better graphics until One X got released.

This can apply to every fanbase depending on the topic.

 

[hecatomb]

Remember guys "playstation for the players" more anti consumer practices i see. But dont worry tho later on in this thread the sony dick riders will try to justify this with "i dont see the issue if u want to play with xbox friends buy a xbox" or some other angle to back there favourite console maker over the consumers.

Hmm don't know seems like the only people mad about it are people who like Microsoft, or fortnite fanboys. Though I hope fortnite dies out completely, its one of the most boring games to watch ever. Just watching people open boxes and hide for 10 mins, then just die in 1 hit, so much fun.

 

[joe_zazen]

Oh the drama... can't you gamers just buy it on something not playstation. If you can't then sony is right.

I side with sony on this one.

The reality is that if Sony’s decsions make their products uncompetitive in the eyes of consumers, then it will sell less. There really is nothing else to say, that fact won’t stop the hysterical narrative building tho.

Idk what it is about gaming that makes folks invest so much emotional energy into giant global amoral corporations; they are all owned by the same investment bankers and billionaires looking to suck up as much of this planet’s resources as possible.

 

[Hayfield]

And the biggest reason to buy a games console is games

funny that this has been forgotten about by certain people, but it's rather convient for Microsoft since they don't exactly have any console selling exclusives. But yeah I honestly think some people think features are a bigger selling point than games for a games console, it is baffling.

 

[joe_zazen]

One thing to point out Sony did not just "become" arrogant. They have been this way all gen. They just capitalized on MS mistakes to appear pro consumer but all gen they have been anti consumer. Sony has been anti consumer all gen

No EA Access
No BC
No ability to play previously purchased PSN games on PS Now
No Digital return system
Blocking your account for charge backs due to crappy return policies in the first place
Crappy Mod support
Not able to change your freaking use rname
No Cross play with other consoles
Locking Fortnite accounts that ever access PSN

All big corporations are anticonsumer. Every.single.one.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

I'd rather them just stay quiet on the matter over busting out ridiculous bullshit like this. Worst part is, this is the Sony CEO saying this, so I don't see them changing their stance anytime soon.

 

[hecatomb]

funny that this has been forgotten about by certain people, but it's rather convient for Microsoft since they don't exactly have any console selling exclusives. But yeah I honestly think some people think features are a bigger selling point than games for a games console, it is baffling.

I already tried to tell people that in the xbox thread, but of course they all got mad, and started insulting me, then they think I insulted them by calling someone a xbox fanboy LOL.